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post Nov 14 2005, 09:18 PM

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snipe : my reservoir got the bling bling factor or not ?
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post Nov 18 2005, 08:54 AM

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QUOTE(almostthere @ Nov 15 2005, 02:21 AM)
allan, air masuk mana keluar mana? Give more detailed pics cos I'm kinda interested too. Getting rather irritated with this res of mine actually
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QUOTE(antonio_zth @ Nov 15 2005, 09:40 AM)
nak jugak, nak jugak,...i want one...i want one...!!!!!! laugh.gif
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confirm want ????
if yes pls add me to MSN : weeseng85@hotmail.com

special price for LYN watercooling geng!!!!
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post Nov 18 2005, 07:42 PM

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QUOTE(almostthere @ Nov 18 2005, 12:30 PM)
i see many many pins or what structure is that anyway ???
no more jet design anymore ????
it seemed that larger surface still does the trick in waterblock design.


oh ya, the reservoir. i have got acrylic pipes, in 80mm OD and 100mm long.
can do any design with the end cover. it's for customization
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post Nov 19 2005, 09:07 PM

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anybody knows what's the size of the tubing for Vantec Stingray set ?

amok : the acrylic pipe is 80mm in diameter (outer) and 100mm long.
can custom design the end covers to suit u
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post Nov 20 2005, 09:44 AM

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QUOTE(MetalZone @ Nov 19 2005, 09:26 PM)
hey,
u know where to find 1/2" ID solid clear acrylic tube ar?
i've seen people use copper 90 degree angle tubes as well... do u know where to get those? what about acrylic or brass ones?

btw, the vantec stingray uses 3/8" tubing according to ray99mond.
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solid ones ???
i guess have to order in one whole tube around 2m, no spare quantity
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post Nov 22 2005, 07:13 PM

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QUOTE(fendii @ Nov 21 2005, 08:53 PM)
Hmm my advice to newbies venturing to w-cool their systems, get quality & not pre-made budget kits  ..

RM1K down the drain from a leaking ThermalTake Bigwater waterblock sad.gif
It wasnt leaking from the orifice but rathar a weird & sad place which is the miniscule gap between the acrylic & the copper block.. Weird because i have never disassembled the waterblock on the 1st place, sad because the water dripped on to the LGA processor bay & fried together with it an ES chip & the mobo itself.  sad.gif

http://img358.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dscn01172rx.jpg
i guess no more WC for me-
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that place can leak ???
that's weird, coz the acrylic cover doesnt crack that easy and that type of mounting is still considered as safe for watercooling pressure
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post Nov 24 2005, 03:00 PM

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QUOTE(almostthere @ Nov 24 2005, 03:55 AM)
babyelf, if you can source them out, Panaflo's are the one's to go for interms of cfm Vs. noise. I'm using one of those and I swear I at times forget that my rig's up and running as it's that silent (Well it is compared to my old Delta Triblade 25mm which looks like below)

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theoretically, at same RPM, tri-blade should be less noisy.
but it still comes to motor design and the RPM.


QUOTE(bmbk @ Nov 24 2005, 02:41 PM)
i finally bought bigwater and getting around 55 at load.

i am thinking of replacing the pump. any idea where and what better pump to get for bigwater kit ?
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congrats !!!....

another victim !!!!

change the pump also useless coz the waterblock is the problem coz it's way too thick and it stores so much heat and it wont release it into the water.

so congrats again !!
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post Nov 26 2005, 01:21 PM

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panaflo is undeniably silent than NMB.

hmm......the panasonic website is displaying NMB fans.....what's happening man.


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post Nov 28 2005, 02:18 AM

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QUOTE(Shah81 @ Nov 28 2005, 12:51 AM)
Thanks for the answer c9. smile.gif
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i can get the pump at RM 25 at my place.
wanna bulk it ? biggrin.gif


the top cover is a plastic ??? i tot it was a cast Alu cover....damn.....

proc doh.gif doh.gif gone,water block melted !!!!

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post Nov 30 2005, 04:41 PM

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QUOTE(almostthere @ Nov 28 2005, 01:30 PM)
The problem is you have copper, a known material that easily cmes into contact with other materials chemically and for closed compact loops, corrosion can bild up easily as the temps between idle and full load remains a conducive temperature for algae growth and deanodising of the aluminium. Car's water cooling does not have copper parts internally AFAIK.
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know why it's all Alu ?
coz copper rads dunt get corroded easily like Alu ones........those refridgerators rad never got leakage problem at all man.

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post Dec 1 2005, 03:27 AM

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QUOTE(almostthere @ Nov 30 2005, 07:19 PM)
If they don't come into contact submerged with water (which is a good carrier of ions) and there's no other materials in it's loop. Refrigerators use refrigerant gasses which are non-reactant and the exdternal part of the rad is coated in black paint to prevent bare exposure as copper does oxidise easily
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this is just a part of it, like car air-cond, usualy the mechanics will not vacuum the whole cooling system before pumping in the gas, thus the moisture from air will corrode Alu.

my bro told me that his aircond factory actually purposely use metal U bend for the joints in the radiator, so it will leak at the U bend just right after the warranty period is over laugh.gif laugh.gif

the same applies to car radiators, coz they are meant to be changed.
AFAIK, for the same amount of cooling effect, fully copper rad will function better and work longer, it's so long lasting that mechanics boycott the copper rad
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post Dec 1 2005, 07:40 PM

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10k L/h my god.....better change to Grundfos pumps that can pump 10psi of pressure
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post Dec 2 2005, 08:14 AM

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QUOTE(ianho @ Dec 1 2005, 11:48 PM)
Hahaha. Bradder AllnGap, u misread lar. It's 1050 lph lar. 10K bcome fountain pump oredi.  laugh.gif  laugh.gif Actually b4 I bought my WC I oso thought of using a similar type of canister filter which I haf in the storeroom. Fluval brand, pumps water like hell. Heheh. But so ugly lar hafta put the huge thing outside the case.
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yea. my bad. the " l " was too close to the number tongue.gif
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post Dec 9 2005, 08:11 PM

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QUOTE(sniper on the roof @ Dec 9 2005, 06:57 PM)
Gonna put the rad at the intake's position so have to relocate the HDD's to the 5" bays instead and since I have only 4 x 5" bays in total, need to create a cage to save space and the dampened the vibration.

Pump's gonna be at the bottom of course.

Thinking of the shortest route being pump --> VGA --> CPU --> rad --> T-line.
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i think the more pressure-friendly setup is to pump water without any interruption to the highest point and let it flow down.

the theory is the same, like putting an elbow directly at the pump outlet will kill the pressure immediately due to the immediate decceleration after the pump is pumped out.

what do u think almostthere ?
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post Jan 16 2006, 09:33 PM

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ikan semilang : ur watercooling set can fly like aeroplane after using that tubing

anyway, i can get the 2800, just pm me if u want to get them alrite !!
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post Oct 21 2006, 08:08 PM

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QUOTE(almostthere @ Oct 19 2006, 11:11 AM)
Dang, this res is chun. Wonder allngap can make these or not?

http://www.performance-pcs.com/catalog/ind...oducts_id=20585

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this is nice...... hey do you know why i retracted my design ?
i found one very serious flaw on it.... doh.gif

the flaw is the sticking of the pipe to the end acrylic cover.
if there's no force acting on the end acrylic, then it will remain very rigid, if not the end section will just give way because it's not strong.

to me the safest leak proof design would be the end cover must have a round ditch like this |_| to hold the round acrylic and the whole thing is sticked together.....

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QUOTE(almostthere @ Oct 21 2006, 08:30 PM)
cannot tap threading to the whole and screwing the barbs ka allen? Like Swiftech's microres. At least after that just a amatter of epoxying and curing it
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i know what you mean, just to be on the safe side, the end cover must be concealed about 50% of the end acrylic's thickness into the end acrylic cover just to prevent flexing/torsion to the end cover which will peel open the joint easily.

 

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