lol at khal being a Moto fanboy.

You're not wrong BTW.

SGS: Better battery life and has a much better GPU and also the S-AMOLED screen. Sadly faces lag issues without applying a fix(also faces GPS issues IINM). Build quality is average

IS: Good build quality, average battery life, SLCD screen(Not as good as S-AMOLED), Better camera than the SGS but has a weird shaped back. 1GHZ 8255(Same as its predecessor, the DHD), and has more ram(768mb). Would help during multitasking. Biggest dealbreaker is that it has a locked bootloader.

P.S: and yes, khal. I have tested a few phones before.

This post has been edited by xDarkKnightx: Apr 2 2011, 05:46 PM

Both are AP sets price.

Arc would cost around 2.5k on launch. IMO if you need the camera, go for the IS. The camera is pretty good.

Not necessarily. If you're the kind who likes to stay connected all times then yes. If you're not, you can get the 1gb plan and switch off your mobile networks in the options.

. A smartphone does things a dumbphone can't. Just because you can't stay online all the time doesn't null its capabilities.. Just reduces it.

Ace is okay if you don't mind not having flash. Overall 7.5/10 phone.

SL has lower ram and a nerfed processor/gpu. Only upside is that you get to try the SC-LCD which is on par with the S-AMOLED(reviews said so). I wouldn't recommend it. Also build quality is similar to SGS. Quite average. For 1-1.5k phones, you can get the Acer Liquid metal which has a better build quality, higher ram than the SL, and stock froyo is available. Though there aren't any custom roms support from XDA and it has a sub par camera but i doubt you can't live with that. RM1100 for ori set.

Every GPS capable phone can use offline GPS maps. Example: Papago x5. Just get someone to install it for you(for a fee of course) or go through the trouble of installing it yourself.

Wildfire is not a good choice. Either go for the Samsung Galaxy Ace(RM980) 5mp cam, 800mhz proc Adreno200(overclocked 7227)Not flash capable, 256(or was it 384)mb ram. Average build quality and hVGA resolution

Acer Liquid metal(RM1160)5mp(Sub par quality), 800mhz with Adreno205(7230) Flash 10.1 capable, 512mb ram. Good build quality and WVGA(800x480) screen resolution

Captivate(RM14xx) 1ghz proc with GTX540(best GPU to date)(also flash capable), Super Amoled screen, 5mp camera(no flash), 512mb ram. Good build quality and WVGA reso

Motorola Defy(RM14xx) 1ghz Adreno 205, Shockproof/waterproof, Gorilla glass, flash 10.1 capable, 5mp camera, 512mb ram, Not sure about build quality and WVGA reso

a little over the budget but

HTC Incredible S(RM16xx AP Set)1ghz adreno 205, good 8mp camera, front camera, 4" screen, 768mb ram. Good build quality and WVGA reso.

Samsung phone.

I certainly hope you do not recommend the Xt720 again.

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Added on April 3, 2011, 4:29 pmProcessor: Ace(800mhz), Wildfire(528mhz)
GPU: Ace(Adreno200), Wildfire(Adreno200)
Ram: Ace 256/384, Wildfire 512
Build quality: Ace(Average), Wildfire(Good)
Screen Size: Ace(3.5"), Wildfire(3.2")
Screen Reso: Ace(480x320), Wildfire (320x240)
Camera: Ace(5mp), Wildfire(5mp) Not sure about the quality.
OS Available: Ace(official FroYo), Wildfire(Official FroYo and CM7(Gingerbread))

This post has been edited by xDarkKnightx: Apr 3 2011, 04:29 PM

raise your budget a little and get the Samsung Galaxy Ace. But O1 is good enough if you prefer having better build quality and like multitasking.

If you frequently drop/damage your phone, Defy is a good buy. The sides and colour won't chip off easily. +, its shockproof and waterproof. Liquid Metal is better if you like slim designs. It looks very minimalistic IMO.

HTC is your best friend. It never gets aggresive. Its always open. Sounds like i just described a hooker . Anyways HTC Desire would be good if not for the old GPU. Htc devices tend to have more support from XDA or any other custom mod forums.

Around 1.3-1.5k for a new one. Haven't seen a used one before. Should be around 800-1k. GB no. FroYo is as far as it goes. Not much support from xDA.

No prob. After flashing for the 1st time. Everything starts to seem easier. At least that was what i felt.

[quote=LiMcZ,Apr 4 2011, 11:18 PM]
I like big screen hp,most of the time I will use it to suft internet so I prefer big screen
I now using iPod touch but the 3.5" screen sometime make my eye so paintful to focus for long time

right now I considering Dell streak with 5" screen,I think the experience must be different.
Will consider tablet if the price are ok n with good function

so overall my criteria will be:
big screen
sufting net,fb,YouTube ,lot of google
phone function(atleast if tablet ,it won't be weird to use as phone or myb with headset)

any idea sifu here,
thk u very much

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3.5" is the average size for smartphones. I suggest you get a tablet instead. Samsung Galaxy Tab

[quote=mrvenkon,Apr 5 2011, 01:28 AM]
hi guys:)
Other than Xperia x10 that had been comfirm upgrading at 2.3 gingerbread ..Galaxy S HTC all sense stops at 2.2 only?..
thanks

[/quote]
Most if not all HTC/Samsung phones go through two OS updates. Then, they will probably not get any major updates.

[quote=shlimsk,Apr 5 2011, 08:49 AM]
[quote=xDarkKnightx,Apr 3 2011, 11:08 AM]
Ace is okay if you don't mind not having flash. Overall 7.5/10 phone.
SL has lower ram and a nerfed processor/gpu. Only upside is that you get to try the SC-LCD which is on par with the S-AMOLED(reviews said so). I wouldn't recommend it. Also build quality is similar to SGS. Quite average. For 1-1.5k phones, you can get the Acer Liquid metal which has a better build quality, higher ram than the SL, and stock froyo is available. Though there aren't any custom roms support from XDA and it has a sub par camera but i doubt you can't live with that. RM1100 for ori set.
in that case, is the software/hardware support from Acer is at par with HTC or Samsung?

for rm1100, will it suggest to consider samsung ace & price shld be around rm950.

TQ

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Software support for the ALM is minimal. While Ace has a larger user/fanbase, i'll personally go for the ALM. Go for Ace if you like it. But in comparison, the ALM is much better.

[quote=ketchum92,Apr 5 2011, 02:07 PM]
sgs or htc is?

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SGS: Better GPU, Screen
IS: Better build quality, higher ram.

IS will get GBread in June. Arc is not a great buy due to the price and also how SE tend to delay updates. The Bravia display isn't a big deal like you said. They're just exaggerating the pros and diffusing the cons. IS is a much better device. the extra 4 lines won't be such a big difference. Build quality is also inferior is compared to the IS.

Bootlocked but soon, it'll be cracked. The fan/userbase and dev market is HUGE for HTC phones. Sooner or later they'll crack it. Desire is kinda not a good buy now because i can get an IS for RM1550.

Arc is quite expensive. The Bravia engine screen isn't really that big of a deal. 1.9k can get you an original HTC IS. Or 1.55k for an AP unit. Much better than the aforementioned Arc. Only upside is the extra 4 lines of pixels and the Exemor R camera. SGS 2 if you don't mind waiting.

Calculated wrongly. How is my post biased in any way?

Agreed. The small internal memory and lesser ram is really a bummer.

This post has been edited by xDarkKnightx: Apr 6 2011, 10:07 PM

IS's camera lies on the cool and smooth side from the comparison. Colours might seem a little dull to some of you. Arc's camera takes rougher pictures but has vibrant colours. The pictures are REALLY rough though.

IS's cam lies a bit to the blue side.

This post has been edited by xDarkKnightx: Apr 6 2011, 10:23 PM

DHD has less ram, a smaller battery and a tft screen. IS has more ram, a larger battery, and a SLCD screen. But the IS has a weird shaped back.
Ace is better with the higher clocked processor. Wildfire has better build quality. I'll go for Ace. Value for money.

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Added on April 7, 2011, 10:39 amAce is cheaper but it has less ram, lower resolution, and a 800mhz proc not capable of Flash. Acer Liquid Metal is better overall. Sadly has no support from XDA.

This post has been edited by xDarkKnightx: Apr 7 2011, 10:39 AM

Oh! I always thought that DHD has 512mb ram. My bad IMO DHD should be better. But coupled with a sub par battery life, its quite bad. If the bootloader on the IS was unlocked, i'll get that instead. Still, ROMS/Kernal mods for DHD should be aplenty.

DHD:
Pros:Huge screen 4.3", 768mb ram, 1ghz 8255, good camera, more internal memory
Cons: Bad battery life
Desire Z:
Pros:Medium-large sized screen 3.7", physical keyboard, favourable size, light.
Cons: Hinge is flimsy, 800mhz equivalent of 8255
IS:
Pros:Large screen 4", 768mb ram, 1ghz 8255, camera wise is subjective, light, Front camera
Cons: Less internal memory, weird shaped back.