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2010May
post May 27 2011, 03:04 PM

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http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-05-27/u...itial-sale.html


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post May 27 2011, 03:43 PM

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From the link above...

IPO price revised to 2.60 ?

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post May 27 2011, 04:08 PM

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QUOTE(simonc @ May 27 2011, 03:43 PM)
From the link above...

IPO price revised to 2.60 ?

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Not too sure. Need to wait proper announcement.
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post May 27 2011, 04:09 PM

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Could be a typo error, anyway, need to wait for Official Bursa or the investment house info.

If they revised the price, you will get the refund. No worries.
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post May 27 2011, 06:12 PM

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http://www.ifrasia.com/equities-uoa-develo.../637228.article

Seems to be real for RM2.52 retail / individual price due to institutional book building price.

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post May 27 2011, 06:36 PM

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This post has been edited by ahcheap: May 27 2011, 06:38 PM
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post May 27 2011, 07:13 PM

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thanks for the info ahcheap. biggrin.gif
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post May 27 2011, 07:38 PM

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QUOTE(nasT @ May 26 2011, 02:59 PM)
My personal view... i think the result of book building would be lower institutional price. Hence there will be refund for those retail investor. IMHO there should be premium attach to this IPO. So x worry.
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post May 27 2011, 07:47 PM

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QUOTE(simonc @ May 27 2011, 03:43 PM)
From the link above...

IPO price revised to 2.60 ?

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Luckily got Institution buyers to reject IB overpriced at rm 2.90, otherwise small fish got to buta buta pay for rm 2.90.


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post May 27 2011, 08:17 PM

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Yes! got refund, if manage to get the UOA shares. My bracket is in a competitive bracket. Good luck guys! At Rm 2.52, there is quite some room for it to go higher premium. Cheers~
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QUOTE(andrewckj @ May 27 2011, 08:17 PM)
Yes! got refund, if manage to get the UOA shares. My bracket is in a competitive bracket. Good luck guys! At Rm 2.52, there is quite some room for it to go higher premium. Cheers~
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Hope to get some. My range, will get 6k if successful.
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QUOTE(code_red @ May 27 2011, 09:34 AM)
I don't want to comment about this or any other IPO coz i'm practically naive about stock market. 

Just want to give my 2-cent opinion on property.  Property burst? Friends, ive been hearding people talked about that since 15 years ago ("don't want to buy that house lah..so expensive, nanti property burst, price sure come down one"  and after 2 or 3 years, "aiiyyaaa, should have bought that house lah, price sudah almost double oo...")

Most of the reputable developers have developments within the Klang Valley and tell me which of their developments (especially the landed ones) in Klang Valley-proper experience drop in price (compared to the original developer's price) - just name one, enough.
We need land to develop properties and land is a finite resource and that resource is shrinking fast day by day.  Housing is one of the 3 basic human need/demand and add in the speculative demand factor (esp. in Klang Valley).
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As Mark Twain said 150 years ago:

"Buy land - they don't make it any more" brows.gif icon_idea.gif
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QUOTE(code_red @ May 27 2011, 09:34 AM)
I don't want to comment about this or any other IPO coz i'm practically naive about stock market. 

Just want to give my 2-cent opinion on property.  Property burst? Friends, ive been hearding people talked about that since 15 years ago ("don't want to buy that house lah..so expensive, nanti property burst, price sure come down one"   and after 2 or 3 years, "aiiyyaaa, should have bought that house lah, price sudah almost double oo...")

Most of the reputable developers have developments within the Klang Valley and tell me which of their developments (especially the landed ones) in Klang Valley-proper experience drop in price (compared to the original developer's price) - just name one, enough.
We need land to develop properties and land is a finite resource and that resource is shrinking fast day by day.  Housing is one of the 3 basic human need/demand and add in the speculative demand factor (esp. in Klang Valley).
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IOI property - over built some commercial properties in Puchong a few years back.

They have to slash some healthy % from their original developer prices to sell.

One big commercial centre is still quite empty today ( unsold lots ) after 2 to 3 years.

BTW, it is too expensive and not viable for these co to use their high priced lands just to build some landed properties to sell to u in the first place , even though the demand is great in this area.

Have u heard of abandoned commercial projects in the middle of KL . Maybe can google some.

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post May 28 2011, 07:32 PM

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QUOTE(ahcheap @ May 27 2011, 06:36 PM)
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actually not to be racist here....

dun u guys notice sth ah....

everytime...the public subscription rate is always higher than the bumi.....

and other cases ie purchase of new house...normally public portion all sapu and left only bumi lot....

but i believe.....bumi is the major race here right??....

shouldnt it be sapu at the same rate also or most bumi not interested to invest?


hey no offence...

just out of curiousity...

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post May 28 2011, 08:39 PM

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QUOTE(noswear @ May 28 2011, 07:32 PM)
actually not to be racist here....

dun u guys notice sth ah....

everytime...the public subscription rate is always higher than the bumi.....

and other cases ie purchase of new house...normally public portion all sapu and left only bumi lot....

but i believe.....bumi is the major race here right??....

shouldnt it be sapu at the same rate also or most bumi not interested to invest?
hey no offence...

just out of curiousity...
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No offence, but the reality are as follows : [not all]

>not all BUMI is rich
>majority are living near poverty line.
>busy spending money on things that are not necessary like upgrade TV (though spend less than 3 hours daily watching it)
>spending money on cars, bike, bicycle (fixie - take a look at Ampang Park last nite.. wow, i'm spechless)
>gaji masuk all finish paying loan (refer to above)
>buy big house/cars without able to pay it in long term, when you produce more kids.
>poor cash flow and cash planning
>waiting for support from ____________ (fill in the blank)

U all can tambah sendiri.
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QUOTE(noswear @ May 28 2011, 07:32 PM)
actually not to be racist here....

dun u guys notice sth ah....

everytime...the public subscription rate is always higher than the bumi.....

and other cases ie purchase of new house...normally public portion all sapu and left only bumi lot....

but i believe.....bumi is the major race here right??....

shouldnt it be sapu at the same rate also or most bumi not interested to invest?
hey no offence...

just out of curiousity...
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I understand that the allotment was decided by th Board of Directors on the adviced of the management . In most cases most or the Members of the Board and the management are non Bumi.
I think, if you are not too happy you should write to them and ask why allocated that way or attend the AGM and ask.
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post May 28 2011, 11:59 PM

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QUOTE(rosdi1 @ May 28 2011, 11:33 PM)
I understand that the allotment was decided by th Board of Directors on the adviced of the management . In most cases most or the Members of the Board and the management are non Bumi.
I think, if you are not too happy you should write to them and ask why allocated that way or attend the AGM and ask.
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It is arranged by the underwriter but not by the Board of Directors. The underwriter has to at least comply with the regulation of IPO. So why that amount of shares allocated for Bumi and Non-Bumi were advised by the underwriter.

Anyway, the person was just mentioning that he/she is curious on why always that Non-Bumi is applying a lot more shares as compared with Bumi. It is not related to Board of Directors at all.
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post May 29 2011, 05:39 AM

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Aside from money and investment awareness, here's my take.

bumi : apply with spare money or loan money. close one eye and hope to make a buck or two.

non-bumi : 1 person, apply 3-5 times using sister, mother, grandmother, uncle auntie name.


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post May 29 2011, 07:00 PM

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QUOTE(tineagle @ May 29 2011, 05:39 AM)
Aside from money and investment awareness, here's my take.

bumi : apply with spare money or loan money. close one eye and hope to make a buck or two.

non-bumi : 1 person, apply 3-5 times using sister, mother, grandmother, uncle auntie name.
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Ya, true oso. My fren used his wife, bro and sis in law, his Aunt and Uncle for IdealJacobs. He got like 2,000 shares and made 1K++
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QUOTE(zamans98 @ May 29 2011, 07:00 PM)
Ya, true oso. My fren used his wife, bro and sis in law, his Aunt and Uncle for IdealJacobs. He got like 2,000 shares and made 1K++
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When I first seeing people talk about the bumi/ non-bumi allocation, I was expecting for some mad.gif face... But seems like we are progressing to 1M well... cool2.gif

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