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 LYN Proton Wira Club (LYN-PWC) V-XXVI, Come in & let's discuss about Wira

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post Aug 12 2011, 10:38 AM

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QUOTE(diamondclow @ Aug 11 2011, 08:17 PM)
mine is 1.5 not 1.3... but if 1.3 and 1.5 doesn't make any huge different.. then paiseh la
this car for hari raya, so I don't want show dull car just came out from second hand dealer..

need to do some paint job too...

do you guys have any idea on how much pearl white will cost me?
cheaper will be better  rclxms.gif
will do another layer of paint job, maybe by next year..

now my target is:

1. change sport rim + tires
2. 1 or 2 layer pearl white paint job

done  thumbup.gif
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hmmm....Paint Job for less then 2 weeks time? Bro don't think u able to do so la...too rush n sure the paint job not nice...if u wan i can recommend you to a paint shop located at USJ1, PM me for details....i spray my car over there...

Important looook nice ma...go for 16" no regret...then get a set rear disc brake.....hehe....

Why need to rush for paint job when u plan to do a nice paint job next year? Save your money ok boh???


Added on August 12, 2011, 10:40 am
QUOTE(cute_boboi @ Aug 12 2011, 10:38 AM)
No need feel. There is another low-fuel light on the VDO.
err... unless is 1.3
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Change to Evo/Lancer Meter Cluster, whole meter cost about RM250 ~ RM300. If you are using the 1.3 meter without RPM, so recommend you to change it lo...or u may consider Wira 1.5 meter smile.gif


Added on August 12, 2011, 10:41 am
QUOTE(jay @ Aug 12 2011, 09:32 AM)
front gap nid lower abit  brows.gif
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Front cannot lower le....2 fingers liao...later kenak Fender...muahah..rear.....already kenak...if drive fast with uneven road.... tongue.gif

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post Aug 12 2011, 10:45 AM

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Auto some more consider very very very save liao...

Mine also 1.6 (M) ....

Same drive as u lo ...


Added on August 12, 2011, 10:47 am
QUOTE(GKWong @ Aug 12 2011, 10:45 AM)
My VDO 1.3 got low-fuel light also  nod.gif

Btw, i am looking for 1.5 VDO meter cluster, i need the RPM!!  flex.gif  dont know where can find it.
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Lots of place can get ma...

http://www.mudah.my/Meter+wira+1+5+manual-10997345.htm

http://www.mudah.my/Meter+wira+1+5-10979463.htm

http://www.mudah.my/GTI+Meter+for+wira-11024716.htm

http://www.mudah.my/Meter+wira+1+6-10828032.htm

http://www.mudah.my/Meter+wira+1+8+auto-10766142.htm



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post Aug 12 2011, 10:56 AM

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QUOTE(nicks @ Aug 12 2011, 10:50 AM)
There's  a hint, get the oil cooler for gb.

btw, urs removed already ISC, then use 1 or 2 FICD? mine 1 only, just control the air-cond. cold start damn 'sembab' (really low idling). if start then terus jalan, i steer for a turn engine sure mati. coz low idle.
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Hmmm...Manual no need Oil Cooler for GB guah..hehe... but im in progress of getting 4 Pot & Engine Oil Cooler..hehe..

Im using 1 FICD only..which replace the ISC totally.....

Yeah..morning warm up very low idling...need heel toe...muahah.....


Added on August 12, 2011, 10:57 am
QUOTE(GKWong @ Aug 12 2011, 10:52 AM)
wow... thx  thumbup.gif
btw, is it plug and play for my 1.3 VDO Manual with the 1.5 VDO Manual? Wiring need redo?
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Well...i doesnt recall the years....if ur's is newer batch will be PnP lo...if older batch...u need to rewire for the RPM only

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post Aug 12 2011, 11:20 AM

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QUOTE(nicks @ Aug 12 2011, 11:00 AM)
hoho, me also thinking to change to 4 pot or twin pot for front only. but, consider i already change all disc rotor, and brake pad as well, nah... i wait. but bear in mind, using higher tire profile the braking really problem, due momentum much bigger than low profile tire.
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Get my Twin pot once i coverted to 4 Pot tongue.gif.. (Noted, my Twin Pot from RVR whereby Disc is bigger then Evo tongue.gif)

Remember to change your brake servo as well...My Tyre is huge n big enug for it..so no worry...muahahah

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Comparing FTO/Evo 123 Disc & RVR Disc wub.gif
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RVR Disc & Twin Pot
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Comparing FTO/Evo Disc & GTO 5 Speed Disc wub.gif
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post Aug 12 2011, 11:53 AM

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QUOTE(nicks @ Aug 12 2011, 11:30 AM)
Nice  thumbup.gif  But if im not mistaken, if i get your RVR calliper, need to change the disc bigger right? last time i went to Ampang, got 1 person at half-cut shop there told me that i can use Eterna calliper, without changing the disc and brake pad. It is twin pot. is it true or i need to ditch my brake pad and disc rotor after change to it?

i just bought Brembo (standard) disc 1.6 front and Shouji (standard) disc 1.6 rear last month. cost me about RM200 for all.  tongue.gif  Dun ask me where i get coz my friend getting it for me  sweat.gif


Added on August 12, 2011, 11:35 am@nelsonlye

guess we can meet sometimes, hang around have a tea tarik and chat about our ride. so much i need to learn. im not into heavy mod, just want my ride smooth everyday. (hehe of course sometimes want more tongue.gif )
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Of course I will sell the disc together with the Caliper smile.gif .... Eterna Calliper? .... Twin Pot & Single Pot Brake Pad totally different how to interchange le? No logic le...and i never heard that b4....u know d chop shop boss? Or they just simply say just wanna sell the brake only?

For Twin Pot, u need minimum 15" to clear d Disc smile.gif For RVR...err..not so sure...cause that time im using 16" so no issue on it...

RVR Calliper & Evo Calliper are same. The only different is the disc. RVR much bigger.....

Hmmm...yeah...can catch up for a TT Session...err...we learn together le..... im also not heavy mod...muahah...just "Stock Nia"..
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post Aug 12 2011, 02:00 PM

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QUOTE(nicks @ Aug 12 2011, 12:23 PM)
not really friend or know so much about him, but he is very friendly with me. He mentioned that can change to eterna calliper twin pot and use back the disc rotor. but im not sure about brake pad, i do think he said can be use as well.

@nelsonlye
can provide the exact model of your twin pot disc rotor, or the diameter? i want to check how much if get a new disc.


Added on August 12, 2011, 12:25 pmbtw, any1 already use the HHO e-Booster (The hidro generator)

this is the link http://www.eboostergenerator.blogspot.com/

any1 tried it before? result?
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hmmm.....so small twin pot can use back the original 1.6 Rotor??? errr...no idea at all.. Never heard b4 wo....guess maybe he give u GSR Calliper single pot rather then twin pot quah?

Errr Exact model for my twin pot? errr...duno wo....never measure b4...muhahaa......The model i know is from RVR only.....


Added on August 12, 2011, 2:01 pm
QUOTE(jay @ Aug 12 2011, 12:44 PM)
stiffer spring yo  flex.gif  so it wont bounce up and down  brows.gif
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When u sit my car ..u will pengsan MAX!!!!! 10 King Kong sit behind my car also no problem....


Added on August 12, 2011, 2:02 pm
QUOTE(carcraze66 @ Aug 12 2011, 01:18 PM)
Hey guys... Thanks for reply... But I having difficulties in finding 1.5 auto meter panel... If I buy the later version of wira panel, the white background... Can just plug n play?? Thx smile.gif
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Can.

http://www.mudah.my/Meter+wira+1+6-10404397.htm

http://www.mudah.my/Meter+wira+1+6-10828032.htm

http://www.mudah.my/Meter+wira+1+8+auto-10766142.htm

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post Aug 12 2011, 02:22 PM

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QUOTE(nicks @ Aug 12 2011, 02:17 PM)
dunno. later i call him. ask for the details.  biggrin.gif

your rotor good condition or not. later when u want change give me PM regarding your twin pot. hehehehhe
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Muhaha....come n view urself lo......easier....hehe.....

I will be selling The Rotor & the Caliper only ya....

Let me see how much d 4 Pot gonna sell first......hehe...

What's ur RIM size?
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post Aug 12 2011, 02:33 PM

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QUOTE(nicks @ Aug 12 2011, 02:25 PM)
hehe, mine using 16". brake pad usually how much for RVR caliper? give example like Rapid-stop, ferodo brand. but urs is front and rear or front only?
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16" No problem to clear the RVR Disc smile.gif.... Bro brake pad u go n check at Spare Part shop. As i don't know how much it cost. Current brakepad is my foreman give it to me use d...

I'm selling only Front ....Rear not yet intend to sell.....


Added on August 12, 2011, 2:35 pm
QUOTE(xxboxx @ Aug 12 2011, 02:28 PM)
I thought normal 1.6 tank also around that amount. Normally after a while the light come, I can pump till RM83.00

Your car thermostat have been removed is it? Normally morning my car idle wont go that low.

Btw, yeah, install FICD already. smile.gif
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hmmm....1.6 Fuel Tank got so big meh? duno lu.. tongue.gif ..if mine till very empty go till about RM86 lo.....

My light wont come out anymore duno why yawn.gif

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post Aug 12 2011, 02:56 PM

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QUOTE(nicks @ Aug 12 2011, 02:37 PM)
hehe, RM83.00 ngam ngam? same case like me. that time really really little left.

btw, how much if change the fuel pump and fuel filter. i would like to consider walbro brand. but heard very hard to get. can we use other model fuel pump, like waja 1 maybe?

car thermostat got, not removed it at all. but the plug connecting to ISC (control the vacuum during cold start) remove already. about 3 to 5 minutes then engine already warm up the rpm will increase to normal.

my setup;
1. radiator fan 24 hours on
2. 2 extra fan added in front, with 60amp relay (if im not mistaken the relay amp)
3. 1 FICD - control the air-cond only
4. set RPM for idle (without air-cond) about 700, and for air-cond on is 850

so far, i need about 8 minutes to 10 minutes during cold start, becoz really slow warming my engine. furthermore, the radiator is new, (last time overhaul most of it at engine bay) and the gearbox is not using radiator for oil cooler. i bought the radiator double layer for manual car, not the Auto one. lol.


Added on August 12, 2011, 2:39 pm
Haha kita serupa...   tongue.gif  no light fuel indicator.  biggrin.gif

go buy front and rear set 4 pot la bro, if u intend more racing. for safety maa lol  laugh.gif   laugh.gif
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RM83 ngam ngam? muahah.......

hmmm..i change full set Evo Fuel Tank + Fuel Pump.... Walbro..can get around RM250++ if not mistaken....change such a big fuel pump, better get your Fuel Rail Braided, FSE to control the fuel pressure lo.....

Yeah....Mine Thermostat still there, this is to enable the engine run at optimum temp...

Mine:
1. Evo Fan Front & Back
2. 3 Layer Aluminium Radiator
3. FICD for AirCon same smile.gif
4. No AirCon around 750rpm....

Muhaha....we same for no Fuel Indicator....wanna check n see what's the problem..but lazy..hehe...

Seldom got people set 4 Pot Front & 4 Pot Rear la.... Either 4 Pot front & twin pot rear....but rear not easy to mod le...let me settle front first.....
Even Twin Pot front ord damn FXXX nice liao...muahah....

Recall when the first time i install Twin Pot Front....running on 205 45 R16 with FXXXX Conti Tyre.....Jam Brake light hell....hheeh..really need to know d braking behaviour.


Added on August 12, 2011, 2:58 pm
QUOTE(GKWong @ Aug 12 2011, 02:49 PM)
if brake so grip then tyres no grip also no safety  tongue.gif
but seriously i think for big rims and wheels, upgrading for more brake force will certainly be better. Because I also feeling is harder to stop my car now with the larger taiwan rims I am using  sweat.gif
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Yeah...fully agree with u...u can stop the rim without moving...but the tyre doesnt have good grip...then ur car will skid like no tomolo...muahhaha....

Yeah....Bigger Rim....pair with bigger brake smile.gif

Try get a set of nice pad......

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post Aug 12 2011, 09:18 PM

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QUOTE(nicks @ Aug 12 2011, 04:50 PM)
alamak, if change the fuel pump also need change the fuel rail. adess.. approx if together for fuel line will burn around RM600+. the fuel regulator needed as well? what FSE? Fuel Super Efficient?  brows.gif
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I mean, if you change to Walbro better change fuel rail... smile.gif but not necessary....

Get the Fuel Braided Hose something like mine..
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FPR....Fuel Pressure Regulator
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post Aug 13 2011, 08:03 AM

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QUOTE(nicks @ Aug 12 2011, 10:04 PM)
gg... nelson u really make me drool.. haha. but i read somewhere if use walbro fuel pump no need to put fuel regulator already. since walbro product can produce much more fuel(liter)/minute(or hour?) than standard OEM fuel pump. thus, there is no reason to use fuel regulator. if you change the injector, then yes. or maybe u re-bore the block. please correct me for this one because i dont really know, i just read from other website.
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With bigger fuel pump will hv more fuel to pump into your car...with FPR to limit the fuel ma.... Walbro is lk 255/L Maybe im wrong also...hehe.... lets learn together...


Added on August 13, 2011, 8:07 am
QUOTE(jay @ Aug 12 2011, 10:40 PM)
nelson can list your engine spec + mod list?? i wan copy hahah thumbup.gif
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My Engine Mod List? Sure no problem...In fact i didn't do much on my engine, more on Handling, Bodykit & Interioir drool.gif

4G92 SOHC

HKS Open Pod
3 Layer Aluminium Radiator
PNP Intake Manifold
FSE FPR
Lighten Crank Pulley

Attach my engine bay photo easier... feel free to ask me...

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Added on August 13, 2011, 8:14 am
QUOTE(GKWong @ Aug 12 2011, 10:57 PM)
nelsonlye, is that a real carbon fibre strut bar u got there from the FPR pic?  shocking.gif
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No la, is Cusco Struct Bar, but looks quite old. So ask my fren to wrap it with CF tongue.gif

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Added on August 13, 2011, 8:15 am
QUOTE(diamondclow @ Aug 12 2011, 11:14 PM)
I want to go for 16" but need change my stock absorber too right?
right now already too bouncy and if take corner, sure will hit fender right?
what tyre profile should i get? 205/50/16 can go in ar?
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Yeah Stock Absorber should be able to fit in 16"

Should go for 205 45 R16. smile.gif


Added on August 13, 2011, 8:17 am
QUOTE(GKWong @ Aug 13 2011, 12:48 AM)
is K&N drop-in air filter recommended?
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Yeah...u wont suffer from laggy engine when hot weather...


Added on August 13, 2011, 8:20 am
QUOTE(the_catacombs @ Aug 13 2011, 12:54 AM)
not necessary... depends on many factor... stock 1.3L and 1.5L can stick with 1.7" piping for good low end torque... high revving 1.6L to 1.8L can go for 1.8" or 2.0" piping... vtec or mivec with sub-2.0L engine can go for 2.3" piping to maximize performance when cams are activated...
yes.. street wise...
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I'm just on 1.7 Inch only.... tongue.gif

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post Aug 13 2011, 09:26 AM

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QUOTE(GKWong @ Aug 13 2011, 08:55 AM)
wow... nice wrapping u got there. I thought it is like the carbon fibre strut bar I've seen from the BMW 3 series Performance Edition  sweat.gif  Btw, it is hard to stick that CF sticker? I mean like on curve surface?\

Maybe later I want go buy the drop-in K&N filter.... hehehe  brows.gif  Coz I always feel not enough rushing in when I suddenly hard throtle like "ah beng"  tongue.gif
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Ha evo also have cf struct bar. But quite pricy so didn't buy. Not hard to stick at all cause I ask my friend wrap. And is not sticker type. Is fiber type..


Added on August 13, 2011, 10:32 am
QUOTE(shinjite @ Aug 12 2011, 11:27 PM)
Share can, no problems. Nothing to hide anyway

*4G92P SOHC mods*
Full engine rebuild with high compression pistons and engine balancing
Perdana TB + ported intake manifold
280 cams
PNP head
Lighten crank pulley
Full exhaust setup
K&N drop in air filter
Quadcore plug cables
Denso Iridium plugs

All the rest use back OEM including injectors, fuel pump, fuel rail, distributor and etc plus no adjustable fuel regulator also

Running rich haven't tune, last dyno was 123whp
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Nice mod u hv their...hehe...

More intrested on the Full Engine Rebuild, High Compression Pistons (Mivec?)
280 Cams how about Valve Spring? Remain as OEM?

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post Aug 13 2011, 06:16 PM

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QUOTE(jssim @ Aug 13 2011, 02:02 PM)
[/spoiler]

wow i can see a heavy mod 4G9series~~~ur battery moved to rear seat or rear boot d??
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Err not heavy mod at all le...just Stock Nia blush.gif .... Yeah.....Battery Relocated to Rear Booth..

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Added on August 13, 2011, 6:17 pm
QUOTE(shinjite @ Aug 13 2011, 05:15 PM)
Valve springs no need to change as stock valve spring can take up to 8000rpm
Pistons are not MIVEC pistons

xxboxx: Compression should be 10:1 tongue.gif Dynojet and dyno dynamics on wheel, Dastek is on engine
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Hmmm...not Mivec Piston but higher compression then 1.6 SOHC Piston? hmm.gif mind to share more info ah? blush.gif

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post Aug 13 2011, 10:42 PM

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QUOTE(xxboxx @ Aug 13 2011, 06:34 PM)
maybe i read wrongly about the dyno then, i thought i saw dyno comparison at ZTH stated that dynojet is at crank.
and i think i read at 8th gen Civic forum mention that dastek and dynojet hp reading different by 1-2 hp only.

i think he mean dastek dynamometer, not unichip.


Added on August 13, 2011, 6:37 pm
wah, you cut the plastic cover to put the bar? notworthy.gif
got put bar at fender?
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Yeah...i cut the cover just to put in the Rear Struct Bar.... smile.gif

Hmmm Fender Bar? Installed quite long time liao..
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post Aug 13 2011, 10:50 PM

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Hmmm.....i guess yes smile.gif but for the rear struct bar install..can feel the solid feel when high speed cornering
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post Aug 14 2011, 11:24 AM

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QUOTE(GKWong @ Aug 14 2011, 11:20 AM)
1 car wearing so many 'bra'  tongue.gif

but I not sure if my cap ayam front strut bra got degraded or not... feels like it is softer now when cornering
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Muhaha....Front & Rear Cusco Struct Bar...Rear Upper Struct Bar... Fender Bar....hehe..... Looking for Cusco 4 Point Lower Bar....

Hmmm....save some $$ for nicer Bra..oopos Bar..... smile.gif
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post Aug 14 2011, 06:40 PM

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Simple like that only????
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post Aug 14 2011, 07:29 PM

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Get Evo Dog Bone tongue.gif
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Compare Wira 1.6 Evo Dog Bone
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I changed mine both to Evo Dog Bone smile.gif

My engine oil leak over the Spark Plug there...err pengsan...


Added on August 14, 2011, 7:30 pm
QUOTE(xxboxx @ Aug 14 2011, 07:29 PM)
Change head gasket also can increase the compression.
Hmm...never try that b4...hehe..noob here...any benefit? icon_question.gif

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QUOTE(xxboxx @ Aug 14 2011, 09:43 PM)
the dog bone does look like the one for Gen2.

higher compression more power, but also can lead to knocking if use Ron95.
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hmmm..no idea about Gen2 Dog bone...

oh understand on the compression....
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hmmm build of quality lo smile.gif.... get Evo Dog Bone no regret tongue.gif

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