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alhs76
post Mar 18 2011, 12:37 PM

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QUOTE(@Adele @ Mar 14 2011, 11:03 AM)
Hi.. thanks for the advise. My agent friend demanded the same thing.

May I know though, did the owner actually fix it?
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in my friend's case, owner finally got contractor to come after getting LOD ... notworthy.gif
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post Mar 18 2011, 02:14 PM

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QUOTE(alhs76 @ Mar 18 2011, 12:37 PM)
in my friend's case, owner finally got contractor to come after getting LOD ...  notworthy.gif
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lucky lucky!

OK I have left several notes to the person living upstairs, some through the main door, one i put at the grill. So far, he/she did not reply at all.


Added on March 29, 2011, 1:30 pmOk guys! Would like to update.

I finally got hold of the person upstairs. However, the owner said never receive the notes from me, or from management. The management told me he personally delivered the notice.

Anyway, don't know who's right who's wrong la. But bringing contractor to view.

Anybody please can recommend me good contractor for plumbing/toilet works?

This post has been edited by @Adele: Mar 29 2011, 01:30 PM
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post Jun 6 2011, 08:09 PM

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Hi guys, good thread.

I got myself this problem. Bathroom ceiling is leaking for a while and I have continuously complained to the management office. They have informed the owner and now they tell me that I have to share the cost of repairing the ceiling.

Is this legal ah? Leaking from his unit but I have to pay for it!! Anyone can advise?


Added on June 7, 2011, 10:35 pmAny body can share their experience?


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post Jun 21 2011, 03:52 PM

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QUOTE(SA6YEuro @ Jun 6 2011, 09:09 PM)
Hi guys, good thread.

I got myself this problem. Bathroom ceiling is leaking for a while and I have continuously complained to the management office. They have informed the owner and now they tell me that I have to share the cost of repairing the ceiling.

Is this legal ah? Leaking from his unit but I have to pay for it!! Anyone can advise?


Added on June 7, 2011, 10:35 pmAny body can share their experience?
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The owner of the upstairs unit is trying to pull a fast one on you. Rightfully, he should be the one that pay for the cost of rectification work. However, it is you that is suffering if the repair is not done. It is also to your advantage to get the repair done as soon as possible.
So, as a compromise, you could offer to help pay a portion of the cost. It is a win win situation for both parties.
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post Apr 14 2012, 02:39 PM

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In Malaysia, there's no law that protects owners for this kind of situation. You can try to consult a lawyer for this but most of them would ask you to settle the problem yourself rather than paying the expensive lawyer fees.

Imagine if your own unit leaks and the lower unit suffers, would you pay for the fix? It's already very good that if you can get your upper unit to cooperate and let you do the fix inside their house, don't even hope they will pay or share the cost with you.
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post Apr 14 2012, 05:29 PM

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I have face this problem when I was staying in apartment. Upstairs leaks and my house also leaks.

My advise - be nice and try to solve the leaking issue by looking for contractor and share the cost. This is the fastest way to settle issue.

If upstairs guy is nasty you are in real bad luck, then either fixed it at your own cost, or see them in court.

Good luck!
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post Jun 29 2012, 11:07 AM

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anyone have the sample letter? Wnan make it look profesional enough.
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better puch it back to management to liaise with developer as the water proofing works is normally covered with 10 years warranty. wats the point wasting for repair as it is still under warrant?
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post Nov 16 2012, 02:16 PM

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does any 1 tried b4 ask lawyer to issue legal letter.
need to know how much?
if upper owner still ignore, will bring into court.

Does any1 came across tis procedure?
Need to know how much i need to folk out to hire a lawyer.

If win case, would i able to claim back all my expenses including lawyer/court fees?

my case is my masterbedroom toilet leaking from upper unit.
already ask management to alert her the issue.
but no feedback almost 2weeks.

i really fedup that old lady owner (upper unit).

Always like to move the furniture at night, knocking the floor, hanging clothes out the balcony that make water dripping, pouring water through balcony.

Whenever i take a puff at my balcony, she would talk to her maid tis n tat to hav my attention. So when ever i puff at my balcony, i try avoiding going in her unit.
But am i wrong smoking at my own unit?

I wont share the expenses to fix. Rather pay higher a bit to hire a lawyer if got confidence to win court. Still got time to play with her.


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Right now put a container up my plaster ceiling, 3-4 day need to throw the water.

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post Apr 13 2013, 05:55 PM

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I am facing the same issue as what is shown in the photos from darylding2000. :-(. I get to the management and they said they have sent the warning letter to the owner upstairs, but i just doubt it.
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post Jul 29 2013, 10:48 PM

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QUOTE(darylding2000 @ Nov 16 2012, 02:16 PM)
does any 1 tried b4 ask lawyer to issue legal letter.
need to know how much?
if upper owner still ignore, will bring into court.

Does any1 came across tis procedure?
Need to know how much i need to folk out to hire a lawyer.

If win case, would i able to claim back all my expenses including lawyer/court fees?

my case is my masterbedroom toilet leaking from upper unit.
already ask management to alert her the issue.
but no feedback almost 2weeks.

i really fedup that old lady owner (upper unit).

Always like to move the furniture at night, knocking the floor, hanging clothes out the balcony that make water dripping, pouring water through balcony.

Whenever i take a puff at my balcony, she would talk to her maid tis n tat to hav my attention. So when ever i puff at my balcony, i try avoiding going in her unit.
But am i wrong smoking at my own unit?

I wont share the expenses to fix. Rather pay higher a bit to hire a lawyer if got confidence to win court. Still got time to play with her.
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user posted image
Right now put a container up my plaster ceiling, 3-4 day need to throw the water.
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I have the exactly same problem as per the photos taken. it has drag for more than 2 years...now i'm really piss off! my case is the worst case...the 1st phone conversation with the old b**** oledi not cooperative at all.
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post Oct 12 2014, 03:27 PM

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QUOTE(darylding2000 @ Nov 16 2012, 02:16 PM)
does any 1 tried b4 ask lawyer to issue legal letter.
need to know how much?
if upper owner still ignore, will bring into court.

Does any1 came across tis procedure?
Need to know how much i need to folk out to hire a lawyer.

If win case, would i able to claim back all my expenses including lawyer/court fees?

my case is my masterbedroom toilet leaking from upper unit.
already ask management to alert her the issue.
but no feedback almost 2weeks.

i really fedup that old lady owner (upper unit).

Always like to move the furniture at night, knocking the floor, hanging clothes out the balcony that make water dripping, pouring water through balcony.

Whenever i take a puff at my balcony, she would talk to her maid tis n tat to hav my attention. So when ever i puff at my balcony, i try avoiding going in her unit.
But am i wrong smoking at my own unit?

I wont share the expenses to fix. Rather pay higher a bit to hire a lawyer if got confidence to win court. Still got time to play with her.
user posted image

user posted image
Right now put a container up my plaster ceiling, 3-4 day need to throw the water.
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Bro, sorry to dig up a old thread. Did you manage to solve your problem? I'm in the exact same situation as you, water leaking beside pipe from concrete. 2 days ago neighbor did wet washing and my container over flow, resulting to plaster ceiling damage.

Just want to check how much is the repair and does it involve a lot of work?

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QUOTE(Xccess @ Oct 12 2014, 03:27 PM)
Bro, sorry to dig up a old thread. Did you manage to solve your problem? I'm in the exact same situation as you, water leaking beside pipe from concrete. 2 days ago neighbor did wet washing and my container over flow, resulting to plaster ceiling damage.

Just want to check how much is the repair and does it involve a lot of work?
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Happened to me earlier this year. Bought a condo with known leaking problem. Then I used that no bring down the house price to ~20K below market price.
Lucky for me the owner upstairs cooperate with me.
Apparently there are few ways to repair the leaking
Mine used the "fluid cement" solution which they basically flooded the toilet upstairs with this whitish milky solution which then sealed the leaking.
Works well.
No leaking since then.
Total cost RM 4.5K, i paid 2.5K.
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post Oct 12 2014, 04:31 PM

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i stay in top floor ,if any leaking issue , management will handle it
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QUOTE(aizat87 @ Oct 12 2014, 04:02 PM)
Happened to me earlier this year. Bought a condo with known leaking problem. Then I used that no bring down the house price to ~20K below market price.
Lucky for me the owner upstairs cooperate with me.
Apparently there are few ways to repair the leaking
Mine used the "fluid cement" solution which they basically flooded the toilet upstairs with this whitish milky solution which then sealed the leaking.
Works well.
No leaking since then.
Total cost RM 4.5K, i paid 2.5K.
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mind sharing the brand and type of 'fluid cement' and where to get it ? or even the name of the contractor who did it for you. thanks.
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post Oct 12 2014, 05:23 PM

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QUOTE(aizat87 @ Oct 12 2014, 04:02 PM)
Happened to me earlier this year. Bought a condo with known leaking problem. Then I used that no bring down the house price to ~20K below market price.
Lucky for me the owner upstairs cooperate with me.
Apparently there are few ways to repair the leaking
Mine used the "fluid cement" solution which they basically flooded the toilet upstairs with this whitish milky solution which then sealed the leaking.
Works well.
No leaking since then.
Total cost RM 4.5K, i paid 2.5K.
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The white liquid fluid is actually a type of waterproofing chemical that could seep between tiles floor joint (cement) and create a film formation and crystallization inside the porous concrete. This chemical waterproofing is very expensive actually. The bigger size of your toilet slab, the more liquid chemical waterproofing got to pour, and the more cost it will be.

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post Oct 12 2014, 05:50 PM

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QUOTE(Xccess @ Oct 12 2014, 03:27 PM)
Bro, sorry to dig up a old thread. Did you manage to solve your problem? I'm in the exact same situation as you, water leaking beside pipe from concrete. 2 days ago neighbor did wet washing and my container over flow, resulting to plaster ceiling damage.

Just want to check how much is the repair and does it involve a lot of work?
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There are few methods to resolve. Use fast setting hydraulic cement to patch it up sand inject it around the downpipe (for your situation). However sometimes it depending your concrete structure profile. The water probably would find new place to leak (if there are many honey combs in your concrete structure). There is a possible it will stop the leaking forever if the concrete structure profile is good and the leaking is very minimum.

Another method most common waterproofing contractor solve is using Pressure Grout PU chemical waterproofing surround the downpipe treatment. This pressure grout PU chemical once in tact with the water inside the concrete will instantly form a PU foam thus will stop the leaking in that areas but again sometimes it depending your concrete profile structure. This method required expertise to do and able to analyze the situation. Just be careful because there are many amateur contractor waterproofing out there do this pressure grout chemical and runaway after accidentally hit the piping or when the leaking comes back. biggrin.gif



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post Oct 12 2014, 05:59 PM

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QUOTE(lucky8six @ Oct 12 2014, 05:50 PM)
There are few methods to resolve. Use fast setting hydraulic cement to patch it up sand inject it around the downpipe (for your situation). However sometimes it depending your concrete structure profile. The water probably would find new place to leak (if there are many honey combs in your concrete structure). There is a possible it will stop the leaking forever if the concrete structure profile is good and the leaking is very minimum.

Another method most common waterproofing contractor solve is using Pressure Grout PU chemical waterproofing surround the downpipe treatment. This pressure grout PU chemical once in tact with the water inside the concrete will instantly form a PU foam thus will stop the leaking in that areas but again sometimes it depending your concrete profile structure. This method required expertise to do and able to analyze the situation. Just be careful because there are many amateur contractor waterproofing out there do this pressure grout chemical and runaway after accidentally hit the piping or when the leaking comes back.  biggrin.gif
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thanks for he clarification, any idea what is the brand of these chemicals called ?

In the event where the leakage is coming from the pipes joint, is there any method or chemical that we could pour from the upper floor trap or WC so that it can flow through the bottom pipes to seal up the joint leakage ?
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QUOTE(aizat87 @ Oct 12 2014, 04:02 PM)
Happened to me earlier this year. Bought a condo with known leaking problem. Then I used that no bring down the house price to ~20K below market price.
Lucky for me the owner upstairs cooperate with me.
Apparently there are few ways to repair the leaking
Mine used the "fluid cement" solution which they basically flooded the toilet upstairs with this whitish milky solution which then sealed the leaking.
Works well.
No leaking since then.
Total cost RM 4.5K, i paid 2.5K.
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Hmm...interesting, thanks for sharing. Will check with my contractor. My neighbor is willing to resolve this as I told him I will bear half the cost, he is moving out in December so we will settle this before Christmas.

Care to share the number of your contractor that did it for you?

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QUOTE(lucky8six @ Oct 12 2014, 05:50 PM)
There are few methods to resolve. Use fast setting hydraulic cement to patch it up sand inject it around the downpipe (for your situation). However sometimes it depending your concrete structure profile. The water probably would find new place to leak (if there are many honey combs in your concrete structure). There is a possible it will stop the leaking forever if the concrete structure profile is good and the leaking is very minimum.

Another method most common waterproofing contractor solve is using Pressure Grout PU chemical waterproofing surround the downpipe treatment. This pressure grout PU chemical once in tact with the water inside the concrete will instantly form a PU foam thus will stop the leaking in that areas but again sometimes it depending your concrete profile structure. This method required expertise to do and able to analyze the situation. Just be careful because there are many amateur contractor waterproofing out there do this pressure grout chemical and runaway after accidentally hit the piping or when the leaking comes back.  biggrin.gif
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Thanks. I need a permanent solution, my contractor suggested hacking and redo waterproofing. Neighbor said will find his own contractor then we do a price comparison. If injection can solve this issue, I don't mind giving a try but where to get the real expert and what is the cost?


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