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KVReninem
post Sep 4 2012, 07:47 PM

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QUOTE(azarimy @ Sep 2 2012, 10:15 PM)
The school is OUR workplace. If americans can dress properly to their corporate workplace, who are they to say we cant do the same with our faculties? Sure, students are students. They come and go. But the staffs are here in the long run.

If the students expect me to give professional services, they better expect the whole package: professional attiresincluded.

You wouldnt dress casually to meet ur client for the 1st time would u?
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Mark Zuckaberg didnt dress formal when he did his stage presentation to get investors.

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a blazer, jeans & tshirt.. professional enough?

Idk how dressing could detect our field professionalism, but yeah; like liberty people said; architecture should be open minded & accept all kind of attire.

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tshirt -FG.
mark as client - tshirt also. laugh.gif



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post Oct 7 2012, 01:35 PM

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QUOTE(YL695 @ Oct 3 2012, 04:10 PM)
Hello, I am currently a high school student planning on taking architecture.
Since I am not a Malaysian, I don't really know much about the universities there. I did my research and I'm quite interested in Taylor's University, but is it a good place to study architecture?
In every country there must be government schools and private schools. Usually, government schools are poor in facilities but are really good with the education, while private schools have outstanding facilities but not so much for the education. I'm wondering if Taylor's University is one of those kinds of private schools?
I'd really appreciate it if someone could help me. Thank you smile.gif
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Which country do you come from?

place to study? not really. Depends on individuals. & what you want to get into.

What you describe of govt, private is quite true..for malaysia, not others country. You can observe how it is in term of fundings, speaking up of the problem in architecture field..current issues..Malaysia, to be honest, their so called architects are very ignorant of daily architecture/problem... just observe PAM yourself.

for taylor`s, your fees exclude what you got to spend in the course...materials etc..nothing is free here.

think about this - its A Education group service.. icon_idea.gif Not in a way, anything happen later, will guarantee you at least a credibility in global market even its well know here in small world malaysia.

Just see it this way, what govt could do due to preferable race base type entrance to local university, it gave way to the eat your money away type of education service. Look into Lim Kok Wing-Malaysia, suppose it offer architecture course too but....

just let you know, Malaysia syllabus in architecture, is backdated 2 years from my estimation.. while other developed economy have change their path of education/ how they run it. While malaysia, even with UTM as the anchor, its still very far behind. I remember someone asked how to running their studio with good tech to future proof next 5 years..

imagine you are entering a transition period of that particular school.

the story of Malaysia is more of Engineers detecting the field than architect`s being the main driver...

creativity design- look up singapore... singapore is due to be emerging melting pot in term global architecture/design/industrial art..while Malaysia- will always try to photocopy what this small country will do..

food for thought...

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post Oct 9 2012, 10:38 PM

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QUOTE(BlueBean @ Oct 10 2012, 12:00 AM)
mr azari, do you know where to get ames lettering guide in malaysia?
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just print out from microsoft words of the lettering you want, cut it on boards of the shape & work it out from there.

damn, why malaysia still "old school" when outside already advanced so far whistling.gif
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post Oct 17 2012, 02:18 AM

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QUOTE(konbawa @ Oct 10 2012, 08:31 PM)
can i know more about ergonomic furniture design  courses here?

any u/college in Malaysia offering it?
any info are welcomed.

tyvm
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if malaysia could produced ergonomic furniture, we would need to get IKEA in Malaysia..
as for this course, its rare..



QUOTE(BlueBean @ Oct 11 2012, 02:34 PM)
alright, thanks. i'm planning to get it from ebay, already got my sources. you want one?
do you know what's a ames lettering guide?
you think it's a lettering template? lol
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i tot it was, wow ames lettering. so much of ancient drafting tech! shocking.gif
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post Jan 10 2013, 01:01 PM

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QUOTE(azarimy @ Jan 7 2013, 11:36 PM)
LAM is about to launch a new accredition procedure, which would mean what im about to say here might not be applicable at all.

At the moment, he could do his bachelor and straight to masters and later sit for his parts 1 and 2 together.
Not directly, no. The push for it to close down has been around since 2007. The case just expediated the matter.  But even so, it is only temporary. We might reopen it in the future.
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when will that be? unsure.gif & when will the ruling come in affect? hmm.gif
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post Jan 10 2013, 05:04 PM

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QUOTE(azarimy @ Jan 10 2013, 08:02 PM)
yes, definitely this year, just not sure about the month.
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what are the implication? some school loose their accreditation? or there will be a streamlining process in meeting the upgrading the architecture implication in the society? unsure.gif
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post Jan 12 2013, 12:53 PM

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QUOTE(azarimy @ Jan 12 2013, 02:42 AM)
actually, it is a means to embrace the open market. i'm sure you're aware that malaysia is opening our architectural market globally, meaning international architects can setup practice here in malaysia without the need to have a joint-venture with a local practice. but first, they need to get the proper license.

if you really check, where did the list of those UK, australian and NZ schools came from? That list came up years ago, and nobody actually went there to check if they really comply to the standards except by RIBA themselves. LAM neither adds or drops any overseas school to the list, and supposedly just accepts whatever RIBA feeds it. interestingly, the RIBA list changes from time to time, but the LAM list doesnt.

now, the problem is, RIBA is not ARB. what we want is ARB accreditation, and ARB is limited to the power of its legislation, and that is the british soil. RIBA is a club. it is not bound by national boundaries. so it could go to any school and accredits them. but as mentioned before, RIBA is a club. it doesnt carry any weight when it comes to ARB registration.

this new regulation does not affect those graduating before 2013. it's also likely that LAM going to implement a grace period up to 2016 to ensure those just starting their degree this year will still be accredited.
why would it? LAM is not revoking any accreditations. it's only ceasing to recognise 3rd party accreditation (like RIBA).
now this is the same question i've been asking myself. but apparently, the argument is very simple. MONEY.

malaysian students are some of the biggest population in most UK and australian universities. but since we're not exactly rich, we require sponsors. and sponsors in malaysia look to JPA for list of recognised schools. and for professional courses, JPA look for professional bodies (in this case, LAM) for approval. so now LAM has the uppermost hand in determining which school is 'good', which arent.

already, several UK schools have written to inquire about LAM accreditation procedures.

lets assume we accredit 3 UK schools and drops the rest. all of a sudden, a vast majority of malaysian architectural students flock to these 3. even self-sponsored ones, for fear of not being accredited when they come back in the future. the other universities will find themselves less favored due to not being accredited by LAM.

u see, the new accreditation system is quite universal. it's deliberately designed so with one purpose: to be the yardstick for regional architecture education. indonesian schools have long suffered because their graduates cant really go anywhere. when they recognises LAM, it will become the standard shared. when other regional countries join in, other bodies like ARB or RAIA wont be able to resist to join the market.

all to a greater purpose.
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I see, good explanation.

So means later when graduate, do the local grads have to undergo the process of applying for their forst accreditation? with competition from external graduates too?

Just say for Part 1.

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post Jan 12 2013, 03:31 PM

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QUOTE(azarimy @ Jan 12 2013, 06:28 PM)
Everyone has to apply regardless. Difference is, if u come from accredited schools (local or overseas), u can skip the exams. If not, u have to sit for the exam till u pass. There will be no quota, and the examination will be standardised using vetted syllabus that is made public and accessible.
No, what i meant was LAM did not send people to accredit those schools except RIBA themselves. This is what i meant as 3rd party accreditation. and do check on ARB's charter. They do not have jurisdiction outside the UK. RIBA on the other hand is not limited by the powers of their parliament.

Our CAAEM (council of architectural accreditation and education malaysia) is going to function similar to RIBA, but have direct authority in malaysia.
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sound awesome.No quota.. hmm.gif

so what LAM will be the benchmark for ASEAN architect also? unsure.gif

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post Jan 12 2013, 03:50 PM

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QUOTE(azarimy @ Jan 12 2013, 06:48 PM)
not yet. but that's the plan. we made the new accreditation system so open and accessible that everyone can use it.
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where can I see the new draft? & what do you mean everyone can use it? wink.gif RAIA also? unsure.gif
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post Jan 12 2013, 04:16 PM

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QUOTE(azarimy @ Jan 12 2013, 07:06 PM)
i cannot release the draft yet. wait till LAM launches it and u can download it from their website.

once launched, schools that seeks accreditation can use it as a benchmark. so they can setup their school to comply to it and later apply for accreditation if they want.

individual firms also can look at the accreditation manual and gauge what is being measured and if it satisfies what they need. for example, u wanna work in one firm in the US. but the firm worries what sort of graduate architect u are. if u come from a LAM accredited school, they can just download the manual and see what is being assessed (in order for the school to be accredited). from there they can gauge whether to take u as an employee or not.

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there are lots of things being assessed in the manual, but without being too prescriptive that it inhibits variations. above all, it complies to international standard. for example, it requires teacher:student ration to be 1:15 max, with 1:7 to 1:10 as the recommended range.

another example, full-time teaching staff must consist of at least 10% professional architect (with LAM part 3 or international equivalent). currently most IPTSs boast their near 70% lecturing architect line-up, but in fact only 1 or 2 of them are full time academic staff.

other example, at least one of the semester must deal with design in tropical/hot climate with respect to cultural context. in malaysia, this is quite natural. but for schools in colder climates, they have to allocate at least one project in such context. most leading schools in the UK already practices this like bartlett, sheffield, cambridge, oxford bridge, AA and so on. we dont limit it to south-east asia, though. african countries, middle east, central americas and so on are also acceptable.

the rest boleh baca sendiri lah.
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great, thanks for the head up! smile.gif

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post Jan 21 2013, 12:40 AM

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QUOTE(azarimy @ Jan 21 2013, 12:50 AM)
here's an advice:

we've seen a lot of sketchup stuffs. the problem is, it's very hard to verify the authenticity of the sketchup models you've done, particularly since google promotes free sharing on the models.

so showing sketchup models might not carry much weight in the portfolio at the moment.
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hmm.gif so whats weight more in the portfolio at the moment? smile.gif
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post Jan 22 2013, 04:16 PM

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QUOTE(zstan @ Jan 22 2013, 06:27 PM)
yes uncle. biggrin.gif

guess PAM poor already. ohmy.gif
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post Jan 27 2013, 01:56 PM

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QUOTE(MerryChristmas @ Jan 26 2013, 12:07 AM)
Hello guys,

I have 3 options for bachelor of architecture part 1 program now .

USM, University of Melbourne, NUS

Let's say all of them are FREE OF CHARGE
May you guys help me to rank it?
Which should be my first option, sencond and last?

Do you guys know some advantages and disadvantages for each?

Thanks. smile.gif
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scholarship? great!

How do you want to rank it? position to be?

UniMelb -centre proxy of Australia design related
NUS - soon to be centre of design for Asia? as Malaysia still long way to achieve..

every school have its own good and bad, the thing is, what do you want yourself exposed to?

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post Feb 1 2013, 11:28 PM

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QUOTE(azarimy @ Jan 29 2013, 12:04 AM)
not internship. proper work experience.
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Btw, what is consider proper work experience? wink.gif
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post Feb 1 2013, 11:40 PM

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QUOTE(azarimy @ Jan 29 2013, 02:03 AM)
the issues u mentioned (in bold) are true, for PART 2 GRADUATES! and the firms are complaining "why the F do we need to wait that long for these so called part 2 graduates to perform?".

this is the main reason the 6 month post-part 1 work experience are required. this is also inline with RIBA/ARB system where they require part 1 graduates to work for 1 year before rejoining at part 2 level. this is also common practice everywhere else in the world. in malaysia, the whole "i must graduate as fast as i can so i can make a lot of money" attitude is producing immature designers. and this has to stop.

part 1 graduates work as architect assistants. their responsibilities are much smaller (quite restricted to the office) and works under direct supervision of an architect. in return, their salaries are also much smaller than a part 2 architects. firms are much more willing to take part 1 graduates and mentor them for a year rather than take fresh part 2 (who're supposed to handle everything right off the bat) but has to be retrained for at least 6 months with full pay.

schools are also much more willing to train students whom already obtained real world exposure than those who're still wide-eyed and dunno nothing about the gritty truth of practice. taking more mature students are always preferred in architecture. they know exactly what needs to be done, so the school can concentrate on training them on a higher level.

honestly, u're already in this field. go out and ask around. ask for the real truth of what firms think of our current local graduates.

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Of money & capitalism rules - the thing is, there is disconnection between Architecture by reality & architecture in education ??

how far are they universities preparing student for holistic approach in solving the architecture issues?
or have we driven by money? wink.gif

idk how you can get Point of view, but so far as my lookout, how far are the P2/P3 going to create this systematic changes in the field overall to drive Malaysia into well designed place?

so far i have heard of good design idea but really, the impact not overall, nichy like the brits- pocketed around, but when come to macro scale; its just tiny bits dispose around...

analogy of industry,
from urban planning got know where they are, down to very good PCK`s(some say from batam) construction people, what are architects in Malaysia??

populist?

Also,

I noticed there are firm mushrooming around, especially in designing- & software rendering, so what are architect`s vs this small niche firm specialized in so & so ?

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post Feb 2 2013, 12:36 AM

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QUOTE(azarimy @ Feb 2 2013, 03:08 AM)
u know, i've read ur post several times, it all seems to be in english, but i have no idea what u just said.
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Okay, make it simple. you know there is the overall AEC industry issue right now that we have architects but yet why do they need to be highly qualified when say a drafter or P1 could do the same, just the approach are different. right.?

And, in Malaysia context, of urban planner/architect and construction worker/ contractors/builder. Who run`s the game? capitalist?


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post Feb 3 2013, 04:42 PM

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QUOTE(finger_waverz @ Feb 2 2013, 10:54 PM)
so does in IT, why you need all the qualifications and all the cert there is,
the higher you climb up on the field.

P1>P2>P3

the bigger the responsible is. and each of the job have their own scope of work for example

Draughtsman - draw up plans, CAD, they might have no knowledge on how to design a proper building with necessary services and requirements. but then you'll Technical Assistant who knows more about technical stuff, requirement for Building Submission to the local authority. UBBL (universal Building by Law)  all that stuff.

Part 1 (Assistant Architect) - most of them help Part 2 architects in their task, helping to do a 3d massing of a building for example, prepare presentation boards to the client. CAD up floor plans, do an architectural visualization.

Part 2 Architect - this is the main power house of every architectural firms. they responsible in solving problem given from client. responsible in managing a project or more. liase with building material supplier, liase with local authorities. all that stuff

Part 3 architect/ Associate Architect - Their main job is mostly to secure a client or projects. The boss of the firm.

i hope my explanation is enough. might missed one or two point here.

to design a building is not a 1 man show you know, it's easy to design anyone with skill to move cursor and make a plane in sketchup can design, but to make it work and feasible you need all the expertise there is and it doesnt only includes architects you have other professionals, engineers, quantity surveyors, project manager.

so to say that any P1 or P2 can be a certified architect means that you know nothing about the industry whistling.gif
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theoretically that is what everyone thoughts it suppose be. Meanwhile in reality, I heard alot P3 just sign the drawing off than getting client in matter while "client`s" network are the one need servicing.

Isn`t it?
I know building a building isnt one man show, but how are you going to say about those going AIO package type?

their cookbook are on going, compare to those in niche firm.
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post Feb 3 2013, 04:45 PM

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QUOTE(finger_waverz @ Feb 2 2013, 10:56 PM)
BANKERS
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If bankers run the Architecture future`s, might as well be bankers right? laugh.gif can earn while designing, not design yet have to work with other or under other yet cant get sufficient income. wink.gif
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post Feb 8 2013, 01:46 AM

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QUOTE(josephlau7966 @ Feb 5 2013, 06:22 PM)
I am working as engineer in M&E consulting firm and always deal with architect. We are working together as a team in a construction project.  During construction stage, I feel like our scope of work is more inclined towards construction and resources management. Since I was in engineering school and learned nothing about construction. It is quite tough for me as a junior to handle the job. I can say technical design stuff is quite easy as there would be no engineering math, calculus, finite element analysis and all other in depth subject in engineering. All math calculations are quite straight forward even a form 5 student can grasp it. For the time being, I am quite interested to venture into green building and energy efficiency in building. I reckon this is where the essence of building services engineering knowledge lies within.
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GBI malaysia, so flawed.

do study the criteria assessment...and the basis of its really sustainable Idea BS.

they only asses new building, while old sustainable building are not cover..for the reason idk why.

again, this GBI..aka LEED..or Greenstar..but do focus on Malaysia one,

are just pure gimmick of the industry, making itself look green when the hell its just not even there.

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post May 14 2013, 10:31 PM

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yo boss azarimy, when is the new LAM ruling update coming? smile.gif the one you mentioned few months back.

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