hahaha the usual thing issue when it comes to purchasing supplements online. RELIABILITY.
personally, I trust MMC. only trust Eji IF there are ready stock. hate waiting for pre orders.

considering of trying out Fit Nutrition hehe. their Sport Blender Bottle is really really tempting me..

and hey! are you guys aware that MuscleTech have come up with new packaging? fancy ass packaging. thanks to that, price increased sky high. *facepalm facepalm facepalm*
THANK GOODNESS I DON'T CONSUME MUSCLETECH PRODUCTS. (tried out Nitro-Tech and it didn't go well. my body said "f*ck this WPC! only whey isolates allowed in")

MuscleTech Nitro-Tech 4lbs
GNC Normal Price : RM 399.90
GNC VIB Price : RM 319.92
source : http://www.gnclivewell.com.my/prod.php/cPa.../sort/2a/page/2

even Eji has increased their prices. below is for pre-order
Nitro-Tech Performance Series, 4lbs – RM 193

dramatic increase LOL

confusing. Official Dealer for ON in Malaysia? the thing is, fitlion is from SINGAPORE..

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Added on August 24, 2012, 8:37 pmokay. I'm pretty bored talking about 'reliable' sellers, fake proteins and stuff. let's talk about supplements.

Jack3D by USP Labs. anybody here uses it? is it really good? I mean, TMW hyped it like mad LOL

This post has been edited by ShinKen: Aug 24 2012, 08:37 PM

have you tried it?

EJI is ok. but waiting for his preorder is hell. I mean I paid on 9th July 2012, until today I have not received my goods I know it's going to be 8 weeks from payment. but still. the wait really kills!

but I bought his ready stock once, it arrived pretty quick.

lesson is, only buy Eji's ready stock. Don't bother yourself with the preorders just so that you can save a few bucks LOL

not for me though. I'm buying it on behalf of my friends. personally, I use Horleys Awesome Mass

yeaaaa I understand all the Horleys bashing and stuff. I started off with ON's Serious Mass. then moved on to Dymatize Super Mass Gainer. but then, I wasn't happy as they are all not suitable for me because I am a muslim
Horleys is by far the only great tasting HALAL CERTIFIED PROTEIN SHAKES available. there is another one. Ultimate Nutrition 2544 Muscle Juice. my friend said the smell busuk like tong sampah LOL. worst tasting chocolate flavoured gainer ever. so I skipped 2544 and went with Horleys

p/s: I get my Horleys for RM 295 3kg tub for 40 serves (2 scoops per serve).
tad a bit pricey, I know. I can even go with Dymatize Elite Mass or ON's Platinum Series for the price I'm paying for. but I decide remain clean. HALAL IS THE WAY TO GO FOR ME

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Added on August 25, 2012, 9:09 pmI still have an unopened and sealed tub Muscletech Nitro-Tech 4lbs Vanilla flavour in my room. I bought 2 tubs. I tried one tub out. taste like unicorn's semen going down my throat. thickkkkkkkkkk as f*ck!
maybe I just can't stomach WPC. I went with Dymatize's Elite Whey. it was alright. I just can't gulp down any of those WPC in NitroTech. and hey, I don't believe in proprietary blends. it's bull haha.
well, at least to me, it is. hehehehe

This post has been edited by ShinKen: Aug 25 2012, 09:09 PM

anyway, if any of you here know halal certified supplements, do share.

currently, I've found

- Horleys Awesome Mass
- Ultimate Nutrition NATURAL FLAVOUR ONLY
- Ultimate Nutrition Muscle Juice Revolution 2544 (not the 2600)
- SB25 Protein



thanksssss!

in my defense, I am a skinny ectomorph living skeleton!
I take whey isolate post workout most of the time. quick release kind of thing. hehehe
but at times where I need calorie surplus, I go for gainers. because I live an active lifestyle. I use a lot of energy. caloric consumption for me is rather high. besides, I have a high digestion rate. anything goes in gets burn like a boss!

[quote=alien9,Aug 25 2012, 09:25 PM]
I understand about that cause I'm a Muslim too. Actually, you should better off the Mass Gainers and focus more on real food.

sorry Sifu. I study as I am student. right after class, I work part time. the only time spent at home is for sleep & rest. hehehehe. not much time to prepare natural whole food. maybe one day. once I started working and actually a proper full time career. as for now, I am left with no choice but to rely on supplements

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Added on August 25, 2012, 10:42 pm[quote=alien9,Aug 25 2012, 10:38 PM]
When is the time does you need calorie surplus? Isn't it that if you are aiming to increase mass, you should ALWAYS have calorie surplus?
And how do you measure digestion rate?

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my gym has a measurement tool where we measure Basal Metabolic Rate. from there, I can roughly plan to manipulate calorie. hehe.

when? well, obviously puasa (Ramadhan) lahhh. you of all people should know that calorie deficit occurs in Ramadhan

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Added on August 25, 2012, 10:47 pm[quote=alien9,Aug 25 2012, 10:38 PM]
When is the time does you need calorie surplus? Isn't it that if you are aiming to increase mass, you should ALWAYS have calorie surplus?
And how do you measure digestion rate?

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sorry for not answering your question sifu. How do I measure my digestion rate? logic. see how much food one consume. how many calories and stuff. and see what one makes out of it.

some people call it "high metabolism". I personally believe that is bull. 'high metabolism' is rare occurring.
it's how fast our digestive system digest the food. for an example, I am skinny. but I eat hell lots of food and high calorie yet I still don't gain weight. from there, I know I have a high digestion rate.
on the contrary, mesomorphs. they are on strict diet and they eat so little yet they don't lose much weight. that's an indication that their digestion rate is slow. badan slow nak 'utilize' the food consume

This post has been edited by ShinKen: Aug 25 2012, 10:47 PM

1. calorie deficit? it did to me. like I said. I study then I work part time. so I barely have time for meals. my buka puasa meals were not HUGE meals that could cover up my calorie intake outside Ramadhan. so yeah. there occur calorie deficit for me and those are the time where I go for Weight Gainers. hehehe.
-about that. like I said, I personally don't like the term of "high metabolism" and 'low metabolism". I term it as digestion/ digestive rate.
I say : high digestion rate. you say : high metabolism.
I say : low digestion rate. you say : low metabolism
but then again, regardless of the terms we both use, we both are referring to the same thing. shouldn't be an issue there it's just that it has become a norm for people to use the term that you are using. high metabolism. low metabolism.

2. last time I checked, BMR was 1480 (sometimes 1440. tengok musim lahh. if musim exam and test, sure jatuh. hahaha). and no, I do not apply calorie counting very well as it's hard for me to count calories as I eat out most of the time (lagi lagi with my lifestyle. busy. hectic. active) and have no idea what those gerai people throw in. hahahaha. my calorie intake vary big time over there. seasonal. yes, that's what I meant.

anyone here have any idea on when Moji will open for preorders on his ON 100% Gold Standard Whey 5lbs again? RM 140 is tempting.
I wanna try my luck. teeheeee

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Added on August 31, 2012, 2:04 am[quote=janson_kaniaz,Aug 29 2012, 08:30 AM]
and like all isolates, it is expensive like shit.

heyyyyy not ALL isolates are expensive lahh Dymatize's Elite Whey Isolate is cheap. dirt cheap hehehe

This post has been edited by ShinKen: Aug 31 2012, 02:04 AM

I second that. just go with Dymatize

about the Whey Isolate by 4EverFit. I think Hodge Twins reviewed them before. in their opinion, they felt like horse semen going down their throat. hahahaha
it was too thick for them and I think they said that the mixability is poor.
that's just their 2 cents worth though. personally, I haven't tried it. wouldn't dare trying it after a horrible experience with Dymatize's Elite Whey Isolate Pina Collada flavour. I say stick with vanilla or chocolate. bored? go get some cookies & cream. chocolate peanut butter is only for those who dare to try. oh yes, I read reviews saying chocolate mint and cafe mocha taste good too. I don't know. I just won't dare to try unless I could get myself a two pounder tub just give it a run

for an accounting student, I reckon Ego's price is sorta high due to the overhead expenses incurred. just like GNC. only that Ego isn't as big [in terms of expansion (number of outlets/ stores/ branches)] as compared to GNC.

actually, Ego isn't all that expensive you know?
1. Ultimate Nutrition Wheat Protein Isolate
cheap!!! RM 1.60 per serving. this is actually cheaper than pre-ordering a ten pounder Dymatize Elite Whey from Eji. only at the cost that wheat protein isn't as fast absorbing as whey isolate is. but hey, the Wheat Protein contains 83% protein man. that is as clean as it any protein for the price can get (Y)
a very underrated product carried by Ego. do it try it out (:

2. BlenderBottle Sport Mixer
fitnutrition is selling it for RM 50 per bottle. Ego is only selling it for RM 40. RM 10 is A LOT of difference for a blender bottle



Ego's price is very expensive? well, it depends on what you're looking for. Browse around and happy shopping

HOW DO YOU GUYS GOT THOSE COUPON/ CODES FROM bodybuilding.com's store? I mean I am on bodyspace and such yet, they don't give me those kind of stuff

thanks man. I just liked their facebook page. and hey, is anybody or at least any Malaysian on bodyspace? I feel like the only Malaysian there damn it -,-'

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Added on September 11, 2012, 9:47 amordered from fitlion and made payment yesterday and just received my goods a few minutes ago. pictures coming right up!

This post has been edited by ShinKen: Sep 11 2012, 09:47 AM

unopened. order from fitlion. very happy as the delivery is rather quick. by skynet



paid RM 29 (inclusive shipping fee of RM 12) for 2 sample packs Optimum Nutrition Essential AmiN.O. Energy (2 servings per sample pack)
I couldn't choose the flavour, so they threw in Orange Cooler flavour.



that wasn't the end of story, they also threw in a sample packet of Optimum Nutrition (ON) Gold Standard 100% Casein Vanilla flavoured (which is bloody expensive in Malaysia.) I have been dying to try this one out. and finally, today, by the chance of luck, I got it for freeeee more than happy! hehe




if any of you have noticed, I happened to receive another 4 sample packs from the Ronnie Cole Signature Series brand. yea, Ronnie Coleman
got:
1 pack of Pro-Antium (1 serving) Double Chocolate Cookie flavour
1 pack of Myo-Blitz (1 serving) Fruit Punch Fusion flavour
1 pack of Testogen-XR (1 serving) of Orange Creamsicle flavour which I doubt I will be using. I am only 19. the hell do I need it LOL
1 pack of Resurrect-P.M. (1 serving) of Blue Razz Dream flavour




and also, just to make me happier, fitlion threw in a fancy card/ broucher/ (what ever you want to call it) of ON's Essential AmiN.O. Energy description. basically, it is exactly on what you can find on the bottle/ container of the 30 serving product itself

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Added on September 11, 2012, 10:09 amto wrap things up, I am more than happy with fitlion! I will definitely add fitlion into my list along side Muscle Mania Club

This post has been edited by ShinKen: Sep 11 2012, 10:09 AM

I wouldn't recommend any of you to go with Eji's preorder.
Eji is reliable ONLY WHEN HE HAVE READY STOCK

I paid on JUly, 09th 2012. I still have not receive my goods. Do the math.
They promised a minimum lead time of 4 weeks and a maximum lead time of 8 weeks.
Up to this day, it is already the 9th week + 4 days. TOUCHING 10 WEEKS
that is definitely not good.

here is my 2 cents worth. Don't bother with his preorders just so you can get your supplement(s) cheaper by a few bucks.

go with other reputable retailers like Muscle Mania Club, Ego, and my latest personal favourite, FITLION!

I did. as usual, he didn't pick the phone up. but I won't bash him all the way here because somewhere near 7 : 00 pm, he called me up. (which is a good thing and his tone was very very pleasant)
he clarified that the supplements have already reached Malaysia but still in the possession of the customs for checking and clearance.

that's not the main point though. the thing is that, Eji promised me a maximum lead time of 8 weeks. and up to this day, it is almost 10 weeks already. that is not very satisfying

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Added on September 15, 2012, 7:32 amI too thought of doing it. maybe I'll wait for another week. if 10 weeks is up, I will.

This post has been edited by ShinKen: Sep 15 2012, 07:32 AM