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debbieyss
post Jan 22 2012, 09:45 AM

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Last year when I was working in a local bank, Assist. Manager title, only RM4k+
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post Jan 31 2012, 07:51 PM

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QUOTE(mark6design @ Jan 31 2012, 01:35 PM)
About my job:
Age : 30
Years spent in company : 2 years ( prior working exp 6 yrs)
Company : Local ads & marketing firm
Industry : Ads and branding
Tenure : Permanent
Employment Level : Managerial
Experience before joining : 6 years with international branding and advertisement firm
salary : RM 18K (14 months salary)
Benefits: Medical coverage (including spouse and kids, but still single), overseas posting allowance, transport allowance, profit sharing, 20 days annual leaves, house and car interest subsidies.
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Not quite understand about your salary part. RM18k = 14 months salary?

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post Jan 31 2012, 10:49 PM

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I came from so-called advertisement/entertainment line, how come my salary is so much different from his? Not fair lah
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post Feb 1 2012, 09:11 PM

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QUOTE(mark6design @ Feb 1 2012, 09:34 AM)
biggrin.gif what job is not stressful? Knw how to manage stress is the key  wink.gif


Added on February 1, 2012, 9:36 am

sweat.gif already got 1.. tongue.gif


Added on February 1, 2012, 9:36 am

Precisely..


Added on February 1, 2012, 9:37 am

maybe we have different direction?


Added on February 1, 2012, 9:38 am

i don't get commission for any sales i concluded. senior managerial level.
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Do you mind further elaborate your job scope? Eg. what to aim to achieve in a project, who to deal with normally, working hours (heavy travelling around, flexi or 24/7), process in completing a project etc.

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post Feb 2 2012, 07:39 PM

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QUOTE(mark6design @ Feb 2 2012, 11:05 AM)
My main task is to drive company direction and bring in sales. Mostly making high level decision, travel to Asia countries frequently, flexi working hours..i dun do support, thus no 24/7, however when rushing project could be working till late 3-4am in the morning.
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I see!

No wonder so high pay. Your job is very stressed. But I admire your persistence and intelligence in reaching where you are today.

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post Feb 2 2012, 08:55 PM

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QUOTE(awh85 @ Feb 2 2012, 07:52 PM)
ppl earn a lot only.. dun have to lick shoe like that for the sake of cabling..
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What does lick shoe mean? Can you demonstrate?
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post Feb 4 2012, 08:07 AM

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QUOTE(fruitie @ Feb 3 2012, 10:26 AM)
Different job scopes, different risk, different nature of work, different background.
Of course it pays differently as well.

As I mentioned before an engineer at the same age as mine, started as fresh grad just like me but earns about 50% more than I do now.
He is an engineer and I'm a HR person, same industry, same company.
I'm earning 4k, he is earning nearly 6k now.
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Which line of engineer is he?
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post Feb 26 2012, 08:39 PM

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QUOTE(fruitie @ Feb 26 2012, 12:07 PM)
That's the reality in this line.
One of my best friends works in a cancer research, workload is massive. Long working hours due to in-depth research.
Of course pay is much better than yours (RM 2.8k) but don't expect it to be super high as time passes by.
She holds a Genetic Engineering Degree from UM and will be flying off to Japan March's month end for her Masters as she recently just got scholarship there. She said even with a Master, the pay is not going to be a lot of difference.

Another friend works in healthcare lab, life is indeed sucks over there.
Benefits are negligible. Pay is low around RM 2k. No future career development. She holds a Degree in Nutrition. She plans to switch job but it is difficult to find a job that related to her studies.
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Perhaps your friend (Degree in Nutrition) may opt for lecturing, sales?

Anyway, one of my cousin sisters is graduated with Degree in Bio. Tech and now work as a property leasing officer. wink.gif
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post Mar 14 2012, 07:35 PM

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QUOTE(NNathan @ Mar 14 2012, 05:57 PM)
This is what the average Singaporean fresh graduate earns. If one earns $3000, convert back to RM, one would already be earning at least RM6,000 - which is what Managers here earn after 5-6 years working. That says it all.

Singapore Average Salary
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Eh, can not convert other countries' salary to Ringgit lah. If like that I also convert Rupiah to Ringgit then all Malaysian fresh grads are millionaires.
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post Mar 17 2012, 10:32 AM

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QUOTE(ultraman29 @ Mar 16 2012, 11:48 AM)
why got so many ppl doubting here. i thought here is a platform to share?

my backgrd is in accounting and finance. i have >10 staff under me in a listed company. i report to my boss who is the cfo of the company. his salary is much much higher than mine and he is <40.

fruitie, may i ask how much is the highest paid finance manager in your mnc at age 36?
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1. What is your CFO's highest qualification?

2. How many years of working experience he has?

3. Is he married?
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post Mar 21 2012, 08:11 PM

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QUOTE(games130 @ Mar 21 2012, 12:55 PM)
yes... usually back in malaysia for personal business.. last year... i was only back in malaysia for 30days? well of course its a choice that i want to be out so long as well coz they pay when overseas is alot better then in malaysia.
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That means you don't have to pay income tax? Coz if you stay in Malysia for less than 182 days a year, you are not entitled to pay income tax.

But then again, heavy traveller like you should bargain a higher pay.

QUOTE(ruztynail @ Mar 21 2012, 02:34 PM)
Age : 28 going on 29 at year end.. (i love to calculate months)
Job Title : Senior executive
Job Desciption : Corporate finance (CF) and advisory
Years spent in company : 3 months
Company : Local bank
Industry : Investment bank
Tenure : permanent
education : degree trying to do my professional now.. 
Experience before joining : 3 years finance and 2 years corporate affairs (CF plus Investor relations) in a public listed MNC co.
salary : RM 5.5k without bonus. 2 months bonus standard at year end. the KPI part i dunno.. need to work a full year to get it.

i always think at my age, i am earning very low.. my benchmark for people at my age is atleast 7.5k and above. thats 50% more than i am earning now.. any bankers here know the estimated market price for an AM position?
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What do you major in for your degree? Interesting... from finance to corporate affairs? smile.gif
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post Mar 25 2012, 10:29 AM

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QUOTE(swirlingthoughts @ Mar 25 2012, 01:44 AM)
Qualifications : Degree
Age : 27
Years served : 3 years (first job)
Company : local investment bank
Industry : investment banking
Tenure : permanent
Employment Level : senior exec level (title differs)
Experience before joining : 0 other than part time jobs after uni
Salary : 72k p/a
Bonus : averaging over 12 months
Perks : medical (low), blackberry (unlimited for work purposes), parking allowance, company insurance, unused leaves carried forward can be cashed out
Annual leave : 20 days

started out slow but slowly gaining traction. 0 increment 0 bonus for first year.
12h work days are the norm but hardly stay past 9.
don't work weekends but do bring work home a handful of times per year.
lean team so only using up 25% of annual entitlement of leaves is common, and expect to reply mails/calls/join conference-calls even on holidays.

hope this has shed some light on local bankers junior level remuneration for those who are curious.
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May I know what do you major in?

Also, what's your occupation actually? In your post, you just mention your position level.

Thanks for the insight anyway... =)
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post Mar 31 2012, 04:30 PM

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QUOTE(fruitie @ Mar 31 2012, 03:57 PM)
No, I don't. Why must I humiliate others?
H86 mentions this: "lol.. You sound like you are a senior person.."
To me, senior sounded like more than 35 years ago. That's my own interpretation. smile.gif
If I were to earn only RM 4.3k at the age of 35 years old, I think something is wrong in me.
It is just different different interpretation. Please don't get me wrong. smile.gif
My apologies if I sounded like one. smile.gif

I have known people earn more than me and younger than me. I'm doing payroll for my company, I'm with the 4th lowest salary in the company (if I were to put myself in the permanent list), out of 330 staffs. So should I cry? smile.gif
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But fruitie, there are still many people out there earning less than RM5K even crossed 35 years old. One of them is my parents' part-time accountant of a local corporation. My uncle, an architect, earning RM9k per month at his 60+ (already retired but he still has to work as contract staff as his younger daughter is still in secondary school, needs money for university fees). If someone who can only be titled as successful when he/she earns more than RM5k at 35, then my uncle should be earning more than RM10K at his 60+. I mean, not everyone in this piece of land is that lucky to land a job that offers RM5K to those who are younger than 30.

I don't know what is the highest pay in your company as you said you are the 4th lowest salary (I guess highest pay would be RM20K per month?), perhaps we should open a topic on how to approach management of the companies so everyone would have more network to look for the right one, both the candidates and companies.

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post Apr 1 2012, 01:45 AM

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Does every Japanese company underpay their staff? I was once underpaid in a Japanese company I joined before, too.
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post Apr 14 2012, 10:02 AM

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QUOTE(sj0217 @ Apr 14 2012, 01:15 AM)
Job Title: Property Agency Administration
Age:24
Years spent in company : 2.5-3 years
Company : Property Company (Local)
Location: Selangor
Industry : Real estate
Tenure : Permanent
Employment Level : administrator
Basic salary : 2k
Experience before joining : Fresh grad
Benefits: car park allowance

What do you guys think on my status? underpay? is time to change a job? but I was really feel underpay  sad.gif ...
Pls advice any opinion, yr opinion is much more appreciated!!!
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As an normal clerk or admin, you can't really bargain, somemore it's a local company.

What's your education qualification? Maybe you have to pursue further and then look for a new job. Tentatively, get some part time jobs now if you really can't cope with it.
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post Apr 14 2012, 01:44 PM

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QUOTE(mikro @ Apr 14 2012, 01:26 PM)
Age: 24
Job Title : Account Executive
Job Description : General Ledger
Years spent in company : 1.8 years
Company : shared service centre
Industry : construction and property development
Tenure : Permanant
Experience before joining : 3 months
Salary : RM 3,000 ( no allowance, no ot)
Benefit: 14 days annual leave, staff insurance and RM 150 dental

I guess construction and property development paid is not high in this industry?  sad.gif
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Your pay considered better than my first pay at my first job, back then I only get paid RM2k per month.

As far as I concerned, accounting line has no OT allowance.
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post Apr 19 2012, 11:43 PM

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QUOTE(cavvier @ Apr 19 2012, 04:02 PM)
guys, may i know how much i should ask for this? its a contract position
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I think you can ask for <RM30k per month or even RM100k per month...according to the requirements and expectations they set on this position.
Human makes mistakes, they are looking for saint who doesn't make mistakes.

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post Apr 20 2012, 08:58 PM

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QUOTE(cavvier @ Apr 20 2012, 01:36 AM)
ya, i know usually they sound unrealistic when draft the requirements.

leaving that "saint" thing behind, how much i should ask for? as for contract position?
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Just the basic pay itself I will demand for RM30k per month at least.
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post Apr 21 2012, 09:40 AM

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QUOTE(cavvier @ Apr 20 2012, 09:49 PM)
huuh? 30k? serious?  rclxub.gif
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If you are not confident enough you can check out salary report.
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post May 21 2012, 11:21 PM

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QUOTE(justin_5 @ May 19 2012, 04:49 PM)
yes... take part time courses bro... improve urself... my spm leaver friends who are working are doing it... after i brainwash them... haha
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Think twice before taking part time course. I'm in deep shit right now.

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