i agree, but dont you think if you know that person, you should skip right away ? dont have to waste time to listen to him....anyway, im unsure what if the unethical thing if you expose his name though...

michael, it's true that everyone needs to move on. However, easier said than done, especially if in the event that dingdong cant get his refund and he loses in everything he does ? the point is dingdong might be lucky, but what if others might not be so lucky ?

I have attempted to give different scenarios in this thread and how to handle a transaction, but if those buggers wants to be spoon fed and avoid just one person, instead of learning how to do up a transaction properly, then I supposed that person should be stuffed. I always believe in never to give a man a fish but to teach him how to fish. Cheers!

who are you referring to for the word "buggers" ?

i hope you dont assume that everyone likes to be spoon fed, your assumption should be yours only...not others.

This post has been edited by Dern: Mar 13 2011, 02:43 PM

When I used the word bugger it was referring to those who wants to be spoon fed. Rather than being wary about a single person, one should equip themselves with all the correct info in conducting a proper option to purchase/sell, SPA and facilities.

want to ask, i planning to buy apartment directly from the owner.
and i ask her whether is it non bumi lot, she say she dunno as her S&P doesn't stated anything. are she lying?
how i going to know whether the unit is bumi or non bumi by asking her to show me any document?

Take a look at the strata title. It should state the status. But since she is the owner and she is not bumi, then it is irrelevant if the lot is bumi. If a lot is bumi lot and after being granted the permission to sell it to a non-bumi, then the property will be "international" lot. You are free to sell to whoever. But if a bumi buyer comes along and buy the unit, then it becomes a bumi lot again.

sorry i am new and this going my first buying. what is strata title?
and it will stated clearly non bumi or bumi?

actually the owner is bumi, that's what i afraid of.
but for bumi lot, they cant sell to me also right? so actually no risk?

Strata title is actually the title deed for apartments. As you are sharing the land the apartments are built on, that's why they issue a strata title rather than a Grant (Geran). I have not purchase any bumi apartments before, so the short answer is I don't know. But for landed properties, it will be clearly chopped with a sign saying "LOT BUMIPUTERA".

Actually there are ways of transferring bumi lots but it is messy and may give you a few heart attacks. Being new to this, my best advise would be to ask you to steer clear of these type of assets. The risks are low if you have been doing it. Just remember Bumi lot needs MB consent.

what is mean is actually i have no risk on bumi lot right?
as stated bumi lot only for bumi.
in that case, even the unit lot in bumi, actually i cannot buy it.
so that mean i wont loss my money also right?

or any chances she will con my money?

ur money will stuck thr if they ask u to proceed with the transfer....where it may take 3 months, 6 motnhs, 1 year or mroe (according to some of my frens) and no guarantee success
in between that period, u r still not the owner of the unit, so u cant move in n etc
ur 10% and legal fee all is stuck there...

if i non bumi, how they going to proceed the transfer? -.-"
before the S&P sign, the lawyer wont tell us it is bumi or non bumi?
btw, if she is the owner, she wont beneficial from it also rite? as bank transaction wont go tru.
so it is low chance of owner trying to cheat me right?

[quote=dingdong985,Mar 5 2011, 11:55 PM]
Sorry... not convenient to mention it...scare they will sue me
but i can tell the unit is at vista komanwel



Come on! That should be on the contrary. The property agency should be afraid that you would sue them instead!

they will try apply for transfer from bumi to non-bumi. keyword here is try, meaning no guarantees of success. in event of non-success, you lose time, money depreciation, lots of energy, etc. etc.

don't just deal with that one lawyer to tell you whether title is bumi or not bumi. you can get other lawyers to help you or go get a title search on the unit yourself or contract others for help.

if she is owner, she doesn't stand to lose much compared to the buyer in event transaction fails. unless she is hurrying for money.

even if low chance, would you prefer to risk it anyways or make sure yourself everything is checked so that things will be smooth? if you really don't mind gambling with the possibility of such a lost, then go ahead

this is what happening on me....
so they will ask u to try...
there is success cases, but vy low probability..
so if u wan take the risk u can go ahead.

These agents are really irresposible and unpofessional.
Try? try what ?
try a pants or t-shirt in fitting room huh?

hm...but cant denied there is success cases...just see if u wan to take the risk or not...
at the end still depend on u...but they will try all their ways to persuade u to go ahead...
but they shud state at early stage instead after pay deposit and etc....
wasting each other time only

Hi dingdong985, one of my fren also bought a bumi lot last year. He bought it via bank lelong (auction) actually. Also to found out that it was a bumi lot after winning the bid. No hope to get back his deposit $ anymore. But he went to the state man and got his house title to be changed to non-bumi lot finally. Of coz, that was during election period and also went though some 'special' process in order to get the title change done.

guys,

For bumi unit, if freehold that still under Master title it can still be done. But, it takes longer time as the house owner need to convince Land Office or Developer (since Master title still under developer) to allow the transfer.

For my case, we managed to get the transfer but with some hassle in the beginning. In the end, still managed to get it! Getting key next week...

I rented a house which is through a property agent (Ms Choo). This agent is from Yuyi Properties.

When I rented this house, the house is totally broken as most of the wood already eaten by the termites. then I requested to do a small renovation to the house. Initially the agent refuse as she claimed was too expensive and she wanted to increase my rental if they renovate for me. I was wondering this house is belong to them, even not me to request other people will request so! At last i told her if wan increase the rental i dont wan to rent or just remain. At last the landlord only agreed to renovate for me.

Thus, the agent get the low quality contractors to do for me, a small renovation took one month to complete and yet they did in simply way.

When it was completed, i realised two of my extension wayar were missing. I asked the contractor but they say not sure and will get back to me but i didnt get their call afetr that.
Until I really need to use the cable, i called to the agent told her this case. She said can claim from her then only I went to buy 2 extension wayar. Frankly speaking, the 2 missing are costly than the 2 that I bought. I know this agent is very stingy so I purposely choose the cheapest one.
The worst thing happened after that, I told her how much total i bought and scan my receipt to her.
She sms me saying she gonna pay for one only then immediately she off her hp.

I was very angry with her as she broke her promise and provide me such service.

I hope everyone must aware of such agent who is so much unreliable

u should stat the agent name out pls .

and i tho if the you havent buy the house u want, you shouldnt pay the agent any fees ? or shouldnt pay in advance ..