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 Buying Gold As Investment V2, 2011 Gold Rush From Oil Hype

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OneBuck
post Aug 9 2011, 02:10 PM

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QUOTE(xproc @ Aug 9 2011, 01:51 PM)
convenient is a factor coz i already had a public bank account as its my payroll account, last year when 4300/oz i said too expensive, wait and see la, wait till now 5300/oz.. i dont want to wait d then go open it, its convenient for me coz got online transaction, does UOB got online transaction, if got then is ok for me too coz i seldom go to the bank?

and i wont buy 300g 1 shot la, i just will buy 20g every 2 to 3 months.

at first my friend told me to buy physical gold; after thinking then i still thinking GIA better lor, but they say holding the gold in habd is more secure and the feeling more syok... what you view in this
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My friend, if you got physical (coin or bar), the shiny reflection will go deep into your heart.......
Don't believe me? Buy some at GoldChan and try it by yourself.

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post Aug 9 2011, 02:10 PM

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QUOTE(Nidz @ Aug 9 2011, 02:07 PM)
i was planning to open acc with KFH... but the recent spike in price makes me wanna wait for 1-2 weeks for all to calm down abit. ok or not?
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open at UOB better spread.
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post Aug 9 2011, 02:17 PM

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QUOTE(GoldChan @ Aug 9 2011, 02:10 PM)
open at UOB better spread.
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UOB is islamic account or not? hmm.gif
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post Aug 9 2011, 02:19 PM

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QUOTE(GoldChan @ Aug 9 2011, 01:45 PM)
one day it will be revised with a difference of more than RM2/gram  biggrin.gif


Added on August 9, 2011, 1:46 pm
if U stay near UOB branch then switch lah, no need to think already.
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uob not far just 5 min drive, but public bank just 1 minute drive...

uob can online buy/sell? coz i just starting can switch if wan... just more procedures and need take leave to do it...


Added on August 9, 2011, 2:21 pm
QUOTE(OneBuck @ Aug 9 2011, 02:10 PM)
My friend, if you got physical (coin or bar), the shiny reflection will go deep into your heart.......
Don't believe me? Buy some at GoldChan and try it by yourself.
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ya, tot of buy at poh kong or uob, but dont know where i put

This post has been edited by xproc: Aug 9 2011, 02:21 PM
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post Aug 9 2011, 02:38 PM

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QUOTE(lustman @ Aug 8 2011, 11:47 AM)

Discontinuation of Physical Gold Wafers

Dear Valued Customer,

With effect from 16 May 2011, Gold Savings Passbook Account (GSPA) has been renamed as Maybank Gold Investment Account (MGIA). In line with MGIA's enhanced features, existing GSPA accountholders who wish to withdraw from their account in a form of gold wafer may do so, subject to availability as per Clause 16.2 of the GSPA Agreement with a premium charge applicable. Accountholders have until 2 September 2011 to withdraw in the form of wafers, after which the available options of payment will only be in the form of cash or credit into their accounts.

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Does anyone think it's Maybank's way to cut costs on an obviously increasing valuable commodity, while leaving us only the option of being either precarious holders of unallocated gold or volatile fiat money?
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post Aug 9 2011, 02:39 PM

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QUOTE(OneBuck @ Aug 9 2011, 02:10 PM)
My friend, if you got physical (coin or bar), the shiny reflection will go deep into your heart.......
Don't believe me? Buy some at GoldChan and try it by yourself.
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I totally agreed with you thumbup.gif

i can't describe it in words......
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post Aug 9 2011, 02:41 PM

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QUOTE(trencher10 @ Aug 9 2011, 02:38 PM)
Does anyone think it's Maybank's way to cut costs on an obviously increasing valuable commodity, while leaving us only the option of being either precarious holders of unallocated gold or volatile fiat money?
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It sounds like they are backing up the electronic value with paper trading of gold.
No more physical backing. Its a hedging scheme.

I'd be against this new account.
Investing into gold in the first place was because distrust in paper values aka currency, interest rate, bonds, KLIBOR, stocks etc.

kindda defeats the purpose.

edited.. I was wrong

it was backed up.. i wonder why the move and whats the difference.


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post Aug 9 2011, 02:43 PM

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QUOTE(cRiXaLis @ Aug 9 2011, 02:41 PM)
It sounds like they are backing up the electronic value with paper trading of gold.
No more physical backing. Its a hedging scheme.

I'd be against this new account.
Investing into gold in the first place was because distrust in paper values aka currency, interest rate, bonds, KLIBOR, stocks etc.

kindda defeats the purpose.
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post Aug 9 2011, 02:48 PM

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QUOTE(cRiXaLis @ Aug 9 2011, 02:41 PM)
It sounds like they are backing up the electronic value with paper trading of gold.
No more physical backing. Its a hedging scheme.

I'd be against this new account.
Investing into gold in the first place was because distrust in paper values aka currency, interest rate, bonds, KLIBOR, stocks etc.

kindda defeats the purpose.

edited.. I was wrong

it was backed up.. i wonder why the move and whats the difference.
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Well, it is backed, But not alloted to individual account holders. I certainly think it's a move to cut costs in proving the gold wafer service anyway. Plus, they ARE sole retailers of Kijang Emas. Though, the obvious problem is the markup price and difference in weight system makes it hard to do a direct MGIA to Kijang Emas withdrawal.

Just hope no sudden decision like FDR in the 30s.

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post Aug 9 2011, 02:52 PM

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QUOTE(trencher10 @ Aug 9 2011, 02:48 PM)
Well, it is backed, But not alloted to individual account holders. I certainly think it's a move to cut costs in proving the gold wafer service anyway.

But still mysterious given the known gold trend.
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If its backed, then they should allow the option of the buyer taking
delivery of the physical gold.

in gold investment theres a saying which goes

IF you dont HOLD it, you dont OWN it.
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post Aug 9 2011, 02:54 PM

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QUOTE(trencher10 @ Aug 9 2011, 02:48 PM)
Well, it is backed, But not alloted to individual account holders. I certainly think it's a move to cut costs in proving the gold wafer service anyway. Plus, they ARE sole retailers of Kijang Emas.

But still mysterious given the known gold trend.
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Gold is gold dude. Hallmarks is just a control act on tracking source of funds.
A lot of people are getting conned on the low end hallmarks, certificate etc.

On bullion trades no difference.

Not alloted to individual account is a big deal. The main reason for buying gold via banking system was to safe guard physical storage of gold.

From initial note on your comment, seems Maybank is hoping to hitch on trading paper faster.

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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Aug 9 2011, 02:52 PM)
If its backed, then they should allow the option of the buyer taking
delivery of the physical gold.

in gold investment theres a saying which goes

IF you dont HOLD it, you dont OWN it.
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I think that term also applies to all Malaysian banks that have unallocated gold investment devices ( the passbook gold ). I really worried whether to close my GSPA/MGIA and hold physical gold. Decision time, tomorrow!
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post Aug 9 2011, 03:08 PM

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QUOTE(xproc @ Aug 9 2011, 02:19 PM)
uob not far just 5 min drive, but public bank just 1 minute drive...

uob can online buy/sell? coz i just starting can switch if wan... just more procedures and need take leave to do it...


Added on August 9, 2011, 2:21 pm

ya, tot of buy at poh kong or uob, but dont know where i put
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I would go for OUB due to 3 reason.
(1) Cheaper - Poh Kong sell at RM190/gm for 999 on last Sunday
(2) Lower spread - UOB less than 4%. Poh Kong is 11%
(3) International gold coin - UOB = Australian & Canada while Poh Kong issuing Bunga Raya

However, Poh Kong have 1 major advantage. 12 mths free interest instalment plan. Should worth 6%.

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post Aug 9 2011, 03:51 PM

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QUOTE(Nidz @ Aug 9 2011, 02:17 PM)
UOB is islamic account or not? hmm.gif
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UOB, public bank, maybank or cimb. all not islamic.

i believe d only islamic that according to shariah is Kuwait Finance House gold passbook..unfortunately they dont have so many branches in Malaysia.
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post Aug 9 2011, 04:17 PM

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QUOTE(jimmyay @ Aug 9 2011, 03:08 PM)
I would go for OUB due to 3 reason.
(1) Cheaper  - Poh Kong sell at RM190/gm for 999 on last Sunday
(2) Lower spread - UOB less than 4%. Poh Kong is 11%
(3) International gold coin - UOB = Australian & Canada while Poh Kong issuing Bunga Raya

However, Poh Kong have 1 major advantage. 12 mths free interest instalment plan. Should worth 6%.
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erm, next time i will buy some gold coin or bar, which is better in terms of investment, kinebar / pamp gold /gold maple /nuggets? rclxub.gif rclxub.gif
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post Aug 9 2011, 04:28 PM

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All of the above products should be just fine...

Also the retailer your buy from matters tongue.gif
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post Aug 9 2011, 04:53 PM

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QUOTE(xproc @ Aug 9 2011, 04:17 PM)
erm, next time i will buy some gold coin or bar, which is better in terms of investment, kinebar / pamp gold /gold maple /nuggets? rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif
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The prices of Gold went up today... it is now RM 201/gram.

Gosh... dielah...



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post Aug 9 2011, 05:24 PM

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QUOTE(Nidz @ Aug 9 2011, 02:17 PM)
UOB is islamic account or not? hmm.gif
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Only KFH is and that's why I opened with them. When I first buy gold 4 years ago I do it with Maybank bcos KFH was not available back then. With new Maybank stupid rules I'm closing my Maybank and transfer all to KFH.

To those who wants to open KFH account you have 2 choices. you can buy and bring home the gold wafers OR KFH will keep them for you for FREE. This also in line with Islamic principles if you're a concerned Muslim, where you can't do it with Maybank, Public amd UOB.

I suggest open KFH account and buy some gold coins from UOB when you have the money or do both at the same time.


Added on August 9, 2011, 5:29 pm
QUOTE(chengcheng @ Aug 9 2011, 04:53 PM)
The prices of Gold went up today... it is now RM 201/gram.

Gosh... dielah...
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i think that's the quote for FGJAM which is no so relevant with bank's price. The prices are spiked which is meant for gold jewellers. That's why they sell expensive.

Don't ever buy from gold shops even they're selling bars and coins unless you want to get married 2nd time rclxm9.gif

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post Aug 9 2011, 05:58 PM

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QUOTE(lustman @ Aug 9 2011, 05:24 PM)
Only KFH is and that's why I opened with them. When I first buy gold 4 years ago I do it with Maybank bcos KFH was not available back then. With new Maybank stupid rules I'm closing my Maybank and transfer all to KFH.

To those who wants to open KFH account you have 2 choices. you can buy and bring home the gold wafers OR KFH will keep them for you for FREE. This also in line with Islamic principles if you're a concerned Muslim, where you can't do it with Maybank, Public amd UOB.

I suggest open KFH account and buy some gold coins from UOB when you have the money or do both at the same time.


Added on August 9, 2011, 5:29 pm

i think that's the quote for FGJAM which is no so relevant with bank's price. The prices are spiked which is meant for gold jewellers. That's why they sell expensive.

Don't ever buy from gold shops even they're selling bars and coins unless you want to get married 2nd time  rclxm9.gif
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Than what should I invest in??

I thought gold-bars are the best as they are tangible and can be sold at bad-times.

Been waiting for the price to drop and no luck.

Will it drop to RM 150/g again???

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post Aug 9 2011, 06:58 PM

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Regarding PG, how do you sell back the gold? Is it thru the agent?

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