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 STOCK MARKET DISCUSSION V73, Blood Bath is Refreshing!

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post Feb 23 2011, 11:50 PM

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QUOTE(mopster @ Feb 23 2011, 11:09 PM)
what's wrong with Kuala Lumpur..... why we always go to headlines when there's a protest or demonstration ?
worse still.. this is against LIBYA leader.... but someone they link to Kuala Lumpur ? W T F ?  rclxub.gif  sweat.gif  hmm.gif

we're at SouthEastAsia.. not MiddleEast.....  doh.gif
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I agree. Mass panic over a country of 6 million people that produces barely 2% of the world's oil (on a good day). shakehead.gif
These recent declines are engineered by TPTB to shake out the timid, create panic so they can buy back perfectly good stocks that have been hugely over-sold by some real candy-assed 'investors' IMHO. hmm.gif

Last Friday, the S&P500 closed at double its lowest (recent) level in March 2009. Up 100% in under 24 months....

By rights, our KLCI should be approaching 1800 by now..... nod.gif

This post has been edited by David_Brent: Feb 24 2011, 12:01 AM
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QUOTE(David_Brent @ Feb 23 2011, 11:50 PM)
I agree. Mass panic over a country of 6 million people that produces barely 2% of the world's oil (on a good day).  shakehead.gif
These recent declines are engineered by TPTB to shake out the timid, create panic so they can buy back perfectly good stocks that have been hugely over-sold by some real candy-assed investors IMHO. hmm.gif

Last Friday, the S&P500 closed at double its lowest (recent) level in March 2009. Up 100% in under 24 months....

By rights, our KLSE should be approaching 1800 by now..... nod.gif
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i hope you are right! rclxms.gif
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post Feb 24 2011, 12:37 AM

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QUOTE(mopster @ Feb 23 2011, 11:09 PM)
what's wrong with Kuala Lumpur..... why we always go to headlines when there's a protest or demonstration ?
worse still.. this is against LIBYA leader.... but someone they link to Kuala Lumpur ? W T F ?  rclxub.gif  sweat.gif  hmm.gif

we're at SouthEastAsia.. not MiddleEast.....  doh.gif
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i think malaysia is more famous in their eyes ...... (KL did have some ppl protest in front of the syria embassy few days ago) nod.gif
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post Feb 24 2011, 01:29 AM

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QUOTE(mazda626 @ Feb 23 2011, 09:39 PM)
No, tomolo ppl will buy like mad. U c "HSLeong" today. U c 0020 q buy today. Gamblers liao... laugh.gif
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Don try this counter~ is a bad counter as HSL own a lot of debt to supplier like Panasonic and Samsung. I heard that Panasonic decided stop supply electrical product to HSL d:(
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post Feb 24 2011, 03:09 AM

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icon_rolleyes.gif RCECAP PE ratio 4.4x (Mar 2011, RM0.122)
Growth 1.3%(2012), 3.0%(2013)
Gearing high (due to borrowed money to lend out)
Gross dividend yield 3.8%
The above figures are from RHB RCE Capital research report.

One concern for RCE Capital is the issue of their largest borrower Kowaja, which the loan disbursement has been curtailed since 1 Dec 2010.

RCE PE ratio is superb superb low. At 4.4x is so cheap.
If many years ago, I would have bought RCE Cap immediately because the PE ratio is so low.
But now when I got this PEGGY Method, I need to look at other things, such as growth, etc.
Maybank RCE Capital target price fair value is RM0.45 (sell)

According to RHB, the growth is also low.
For me, I consider the dividend is low. Not because 3.8% is low, but RCE Capital make so much money but pay so little dividend. Where the money goes? Reinvest? If reinvest, I expect the profit to grow. But the growth is so low.

You may also buy RCECap if you want. RCE Cap PE ratio is so low and with some dividend. RHB have a VERY HIGH RCECap target price fair value of RM0.92 (buy/Outperform).

Up to individuals to decide. brows.gif brows.gif



wub.gif Cheers.
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post Feb 24 2011, 04:03 AM

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QUOTE(GregPG01 @ Feb 23 2011, 09:57 PM)
so who want to become hero and buy up megb tmr ? PE seems to be very low.
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well....you reminds me to accumulate more...perhaps. tongue.gif


Added on February 24, 2011, 4:04 am
QUOTE(David_Brent @ Feb 23 2011, 11:50 PM)
I agree. Mass panic over a country of 6 million people that produces barely 2% of the world's oil (on a good day).  shakehead.gif
These recent declines are engineered by TPTB to shake out the timid, create panic so they can buy back perfectly good stocks that have been hugely over-sold by some real candy-assed 'investors' IMHO. hmm.gif

Last Friday, the S&P500 closed at double its lowest (recent) level in March 2009. Up 100% in under 24 months....

By rights, our KLCI should be approaching 1800 by now..... nod.gif
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I like 1800! wub.gif


Added on February 24, 2011, 4:05 am
QUOTE(GregPG01 @ Feb 23 2011, 09:44 PM)
looking back at the osk report last q , the final full year earnings seems to hit the target mah ... Rm2.2B (vs 2,137.6 consensus in the report).

yes, i am biased .  tongue.gif
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Please drop some more, i want to accumulate lower. tongue.gif


Added on February 24, 2011, 4:07 am
QUOTE(StupidGuyPlayComp @ Feb 23 2011, 08:55 PM)
hmm.gif CPO drop like hell................ tongue.gif all habis
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My SOP so far so good, but don't know tomorrow how. sweat.gif



This post has been edited by yok70: Feb 24 2011, 04:07 AM
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post Feb 24 2011, 04:25 AM

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icon_rolleyes.gif Last call to buy E & O......price is very cheap now at only $1.19 thumbup.gif


icon_rolleyes.gif Remember this I post earlier....pdf attached too.


KUALA LUMPUR: Hwang DBS Vickers Research has raised the Target Price for Eastern & Oriental Bhd (E&O)'' to RM1.70 (from RM1.40) based on 20% discount to RNAV of RM2.14.

It said on Wednesday, Jan 12 E&O's net gearing has improved significantly to 32% (2QFY10: 79%) post-rights issue, while unbilled sales stands at a record RM605 million (2.1x FY10 property development revenue).

'Given its prime landbank, strong execution track record, and attractive valuation, we see E&O as a potential M&A/JV candidate,' it said.


thumbup.gif Remember I said too that it's new project is of value $12 billion .....yes, not $12 million & not $1 Billion but a huge figure of mind bogging $12 Billion. shakehead.gif ......suppose to be approved by Government in mid-2011.....yes about 3 months away & moreover this $12 Billion project will be a JV with a bumi partner. .....so sure to be approved & so think of the profits....think of a convervative figure profit of 10 to 15%. brows.gif


icon_rolleyes.gif One more thing......buy now as it's 3Q report will be out on Friday 25th Frbruary 2011....that is tomorrow. .......so what say you? want to take a chance before it's report is out? ....I am sure it's report will be good....see the past reports summary pic enclosed.



thumbup.gif More....Quayside luxurious condominium [picture enclosed too]
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Saturday January 23, 2010
E&O Prop will soon launch RM1.8bil condo project


GEORGE TOWN: E&O Property Development Bhd will launch the RM1.8bil Quayside luxurious condominium at its sea-fronting Seri Tanjung Pinang project in Tanjung Tokong early next month.

Group general manager (marketing and sales) Lim Hooi Yen said the scheme on a 21-acre freehold land would resemble the home projects on Sentosa Island (Singapore) and Sovereign Island in the Gold Coast (Australia).

Speaking at a media briefing, she said the project would comprise seven blocks of high and low-rise condominiums, surrounded by 4.5 acres of water park and a 6.9-acre tropical garden.

“Next to Quayside is the Straits Quay, comprising a serviced suite component and a 250,000 sq ft of marina and retail space that will be leased to food and beverage outlets,” Lim said.

The serviced suite component had over 200 apartments, she said, adding the Straits Quay would be ready by the year-end.

The Straits Quay, and the size of both the water park and tropical garden, was what distinguished the Quayside condominium from other projects of its kind in Penang, she added.

“We will be going to Britain, Hong Kong, and Singapore to market Quayside where we expect some 30% of our sales will come from,” she said.

Lim said that on Feb 6, only the first block – a 26-storey building with 298 units – would be opened for sale.

“The other seven blocks will be launched in phases over a five year-period. The first block is targeted for completion in 36 months,” she said.

The Quayside is located within the first phase of the 908-acre Seri Tanjung Pinang housing project.

Lim said that to-date, only the first phase, comprising 240 acres of reclaimed land, had been developed.

“Over 500 landed residential properties have been developed and sold in the first phase.

“The estimated gross sales value for the first phase, which includes the Quayside and Straits Quay, is RM4bil,” she said.



thumbup.gif And what about the Sri Tanjung Pinang project...yes, it cost $7.8 million for 1 villa or bungalow. shakehead.gif ...picture enclosed too.




Cheers to all......best of luck to you all.....happy investing.

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post Feb 24 2011, 04:47 AM

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QUOTE(monkeyking @ Feb 24 2011, 03:09 AM)
icon_rolleyes.gif RCECAP PE ratio 4.4x (Mar 2011, RM0.122)
Growth 1.3%(2012), 3.0%(2013)
Gearing high (due to borrowed money to lend out)
Gross dividend yield 3.8%
The above figures are from RHB RCE Capital research report.

One concern for RCE Capital is the issue of their largest borrower Kowaja, which the loan disbursement has been curtailed since 1 Dec 2010.

RCE PE ratio is superb superb low. At 4.4x is so cheap.
If many years ago, I would have bought RCE Cap immediately because the PE ratio is so low.
But now when I got this PEGGY Method, I need to look at other things, such as growth, etc.
Maybank RCE Capital target price fair value is RM0.45 (sell)

According to RHB, the growth is also low.
For me, I consider the dividend is low. Not because 3.8% is low, but RCE Capital make so much money but pay so little dividend. Where the money goes? Reinvest? If reinvest, I expect the profit to grow. But the growth is so low.

You may also buy RCECap if you want. RCE Cap PE ratio is so low and with some dividend. RHB have a VERY HIGH RCECap target price fair value of RM0.92 (buy/Outperform).

Up to individuals to decide. brows.gif  brows.gif
wub.gif Cheers.
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Great evaluation... I am holding the shares and deciding to sell... After reading what you posted here, I am more determined to sell!
Haha...
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post Feb 24 2011, 08:19 AM

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QUOTE(monkeyking @ Feb 24 2011, 04:25 AM)
icon_rolleyes.gif Last call to buy E & O......price is very cheap now at only  $1.19 thumbup.gif
icon_rolleyes.gif Remember this I post earlier....pdf attached too.
KUALA LUMPUR: Hwang DBS Vickers Research has raised the Target Price for Eastern & Oriental Bhd (E&O)'' to RM1.70 (from RM1.40) based on 20% discount to RNAV of RM2.14.

It said on Wednesday, Jan 12 E&O's net gearing has improved significantly to 32% (2QFY10: 79%) post-rights issue, while unbilled sales stands at a record RM605 million (2.1x FY10 property development revenue).

'Given its prime landbank, strong execution track record, and attractive valuation, we see E&O as a potential M&A/JV candidate,' it said.
thumbup.gif Remember I said too that it's new project is of value $12 billion .....yes, not $12 million & not $1 Billion but a huge figure of mind bogging $12 Billion.  shakehead.gif ......suppose to be approved by Government in mid-2011.....yes about 3 months away & moreover this $12 Billion project will be a JV with a bumi partner.  .....so sure to be approved & so think of the profits....think of a convervative figure profit of 10 to 15%. brows.gif
icon_rolleyes.gif One more thing......buy now as it's 3Q report will be out on Friday 25th Frbruary 2011....that is tomorrow. .......so  what say you? want to take a chance before it's report is out? ....I am sure it's report will be good....see the past reports summary pic enclosed.
thumbup.gif More....Quayside luxurious condominium [picture enclosed too]
thumbup.gif And what about the Sri Tanjung Pinang project...yes, it cost $7.8 million for 1 villa or bungalow. shakehead.gif  ...picture enclosed too.
Cheers to all......best of luck to you all.....happy investing.
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i am holding and thinking to top up
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whistling.gif I want revenge, pls green today........
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hi all..
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can i know is kulim doing a splitting now? as the price drop from 15.588 to 4.020 pre-open.....

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anyone having problem with hlebroking.. can login jor after ignoring the certificate error.. but when click portfolio checking, it warn us " the certificate might attempt to fool you and intercept any connection between you and server " =.=
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QUOTE(DX007 @ Feb 24 2011, 08:43 AM)
hi all..
newbie here  tongue.gif
can i know is kulim doing a splitting now? as the price drop from 15.588 to 4.020 pre-open.....
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Yes, Bonus Issue 1:1 and Share split 1:2
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post Feb 24 2011, 08:58 AM

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From the queue, it seems like a red start for KLCI!
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QUOTE(DX007 @ Feb 24 2011, 08:43 AM)
hi all..
newbie here  tongue.gif
can i know is kulim doing a splitting now? as the price drop from 15.588 to 4.020 pre-open.....
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yes split
http://www.theedgemalaysia.com/index.php?o...182131&Itemid=2
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post Feb 24 2011, 09:00 AM

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QUOTE(DX007 @ Feb 24 2011, 08:43 AM)
hi all..
newbie here  tongue.gif
can i know is kulim doing a splitting now? as the price drop from 15.588 to 4.020 pre-open.....
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for every cent drop now , its multiple by 4 blush.gif
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sweat.gif Red Day....................
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dayang results last night was quite good ... naim can you follow ?
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yawn.gif 10.00am is important time..............let see
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