i am neither 1 or 2 coz i m still single mah, haha
since i m a man so risk to become a loser (lao gong= husband), so dun marry is better??
i hope i am a gal, got chance to become the ultimate winner..

Which reasons that we gave that has expired?

You are generalizing and making an assumption.  Bad thing to do as a wise investor.

Myself, the issues I raised, have not come to pass yet.  Which is that the saturation of the number of real home owners (the real source of money), will cause a slowdown and adjustment of the market.

I'm saying, if you keep on blowing, the balloon will pop.  You are saying it hasn't, so it will never.

agreed most are investors, and most of them jsut want to headge against inflation (for long term) or want to make some passive incomes.  Asian esp Chinese will always consider/calculate carefully their affordabilities and most do not stretch too far. Those over leverage (minority) will force to sell thier holding (they may not lose $ coz they made enough $ last few years, can cover their loss). These firesales will benefit those investors i mentioned earlier.  (majority) , and price will stabilized after sometimes.

is that simply.. just bought a house got a wife... I doubt.

With a bit financial intellegent... prop rally due to speculator... US is printing USD like no tmrw...created such bubble to mankind... stop print mean market crash.. no $ to use, continue print mean hyperinflation, $ become toilet paper. Oil could reach $150 above.. wat happen next... crisis loh    print or no print end up same result.....

the economy today is credit like economy. (borrow and spend)
developing countries (3rd world) to ensure employment, push up productions, and then lend $ to developed countries and wish them to spend/ use as many finished goods they manufactured. the 3rd world will continue to exploit their natural resources, commodities to create enough $ to lend to the developed nations.  the music will go on until no more resources/commodities to continue the cycle..

when 3rd world dried up and no more resources/$ to lend, developed nations will stop consuming, unemployment in 3rd world will increased. riot begin and war started. developed nations will then rule again. so it is better than old days where 1st world conquer/colonize the 3rd world and steal their resources and slaved their ppl.  They use a new way to slave the 3rd world.  (north korea is smarter they build nuclear weapons not commodities)

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Added on June 6, 2011, 5:45 pm

if he has the holding power, $ etc, he has no rush to sell to u now.
he can renovate and then rent at a better rental.  (maybe he has now learnt how to choose the right tenants from the past mistakes)

so for u, either accept the price or find another unit/area

kl got 6 mil population meh???

and sulifeisgreat, never did spot your portfolio in any of the thread.
mind sharing where you are vested?

The order of collapse. Job market, Stock market, unit trust, car market, property market.

Right before election, everything is +ve 
i doubt it..

The numbers does look very impressive.  However I don't think it was because Malaysia is doing such a fantastic job attracting FDI.  When the crash in 2007/2008 happened, every developed economic is printing money like mad to shore up their economies and banking systems.  Most of the excess liquidity or hot money has not stayed in the US, UK or EU, instead it all rushed out everywhere in the world chasing returns on capital.  From commodities, currencies to assets in emerging markets - stock markets, property markets, etc.  China/BRIC and Southeast Asia, Latin America even South Africa are beneficiaries.  The flip side to these is that they are also victims of price/asset inflation when the hot money rolls into town.

So while Malaysia is patting themselves on their backs saying good job.  All emerging markets also have reasonably if not equally impressive FDI.  I am not saying they are doing a bad job - but more because they are in the "right place, right time" rather.

I'll be very afraid if we rely too much on property and construction. If "Perfect Storm" were to come as predicted, all these will be swept away.

It is correct to predict that the economy would be collapsing in the order of Rate-->Share-->Job-->Car-->Prop

When the government senses any incoming trouble, the first thing they do is to control the rate through monetary policy and thus the Rate.

When the problem is beyond control, it will strike panic at the share market. Due to the volatile behaviour of the share market, the share holder is afraid that their share price will drop very quickly and therefore they quickly sell it all the shares they have. For the small share holder, it is easy for them to let go because it is not a huge investment. Note that if any company wants to sell any share, it takes only one day for the transaction to be perfected.

When there share price is going down, nobody would want to plan for the development or investment. Upstream companies would not announce any new project or investment and therefore it affects the down stream companies. Therefore they need to start firing people because production is reduced like wise the service is not needed. Note that it takes one month to three months to sack/fire a person.

When people is being sacked/fired, their biggest commitment is usually car/prop. Once they default payment, the bank would start to issue notice of default and threaten to take back the car. This process would normally takes another minimum 2 months for it to happen. When given choice, people would want to retain their property rather than the car because there are other means of transportations when there is larger penalty if you default in a mortgage payment.

Lastly people let go of their house/property. If the situation is very bad, lots of people would be selling their house in the same time. When the market is flooded with auctions houses and cheaper property prices, it is not easy to get buyer and cash is the king. People would take their time to make decision because they are spoiled with lots of offers. And since property is always deem to be a valuable investment of all time, there would always be people that are willing to buy and thus support the price. Nevertheless, it really takes time for any one deal to be perfected at the tough time.

All in all, I believe that it is logical and correct to predict that the market should be collapsing in the manner as stated above. However, finance and economy is not that straight forward and simple as we want it to be. Not even the smartest in the world is able to relieve the richest country out of the trap of the financial crisis.