i was just wondering ... what Mourinho would say if in the return leg .. Barca would park the bus kao kao ... play similar style to Real Madrid in Copa Del Ray and 1st leg..
hehe... i know it wont happen .. and certainly dun wanna c that brand of football...
obviously what i am lookin forward is real madrid open up and play openly, like the liga games where they play against weaker teams... have the wings open up .. not so much defensive work. Dun play like they are playing against barca play like they are against malaga or whatever almeria or deportivo....
"....Mereka yang tak punya perasaan Kita ada nilai tersendiri Biarkan mereka yang tersasul Berkata ego menepuk dada Biarkan mereka yang tersasul Berkata ego menepuk dada....."
XPDC
Semangat Perjuangan Harmoni
vamosss.....catalan army....we're not fear with Los Merengues.....
Moral of the match: Do not play dirty against us, you'll pay for it.
Oh thank you! But to be fair though, it easy to snuff out these cheap attacks. There are a lot of videos could be used as the 'weapon' in Youtube. You too can help me out
to be honest, i kinda sad for the outcome of the last el classico.. it is quite sad lookin at my beloved team has to play ''play acting'' which is normally perform by busquet, but that match, we hav busquet,mascherano, pedro and also alves playin this act.. yes it was a disgrace to our beautiful football play style.. but it counldnt be avoided as the opponent is playin quiet aggressive violent style of play.. i wish we can play much more better for the last classico and minimize this play acting thing,show the world that we can win with style and beautiful game.. real too, they r also play acting in few occasion to win the free kick.. wishes them to be less violent, attacking minded too.. than we can hav a super offensive team vs a super offensive team kinda off game where we attack then been counter attack than we counter them back..
i hate to c real fan n our fan keep arguing especially regarding alves action.. lets put it behind n concentrate for the nex el classico.. peace.. really dunwan to c la liga fans arguing too muc or critic too muc to eac other, we r not like bpl fan who keep bashing each other teams n cant accept losing.
This post has been edited by uzary: Apr 30 2011, 02:37 AM
UEFA didn't instruct; 1) S. Ramos to kick at Messi after being skinned in Nov.2010. 2) Albiol to strangle Villa while being the last defender, in the penalty box. 3) Di Maria to make a late from behind tackle which will always result in a yellow. Two yellows-RED!
4) Pepe to put his studs up shin-high. In EPL it would've been alright but not in UEFA. But someone who did this before
will clearly not get the benefit of the doubt of the referee. He has a reputation for being violent.
If Alves didn’t pull out his leg, he would’ve probably been in hospital now. Would you fans feel better if that was the case? Would that make the red card worth it? some times you don’t need to wait for blood to drop.
And put yourself in the ref’s position. You see one player who has been aggressive all night going in with studs up shin high, take in to account he is someone with a violent record, WHAT WOULD YOU DO? WITHOUT THE AID OF REPLAYS? WHAT?
Those were the RED cards and not even something that wasn’t called for or seen by the ref. Now something about the goals
5) Messi dribbling past 5 players 6) Messi to score twice
UEFA certainly didn’t have anything to do with all those listed above right?
Didn't you guys notice how MAdrid time and time again got away with dirty plays over the last 3 matches?
I can't and will not go back to each and every match to take notes because it will not help anything. DID HE FORGET ABOUT THAT? ALL THE NON-CALLS, DIVING BY HIS OWN PLAYERS THAT WENT UN PUNISHED AND INSTEAD WE GOT PUNISHED FOR IT? Dive Maria, Marcelo??
Just take a look at the last match. -Di Maria took a dive after and Alves got a yellow card. Similar thing happened last week at the Bernaboo and he got a penalty. -And later on in the match he pushed Puyol after he lost the battle. It happened on the right corner from Barca's goal in the 2nd half.
-Marcelo TWICE stamped on Pedro. Why is nobody talking about that? There were stud marks on his knee for goodness sake!
-Adebayor used his hands to push Puyol. Right in front of the lines-man. And then later on on Busquets.
-Ramos to block Messi's run. That would always result in a yellow. And too bad, he will miss the 2nd leg.
-Arbeloa elbowed Villa and then as if it wasn't enough stood on his legs. And to make matters worse pretend as if nothing happened and dragged Villa up. This is what their Spanish National Team Coach Vicente Del Bosque had to say about that incident; “What Arbeloa & Ramos did to Villa after that was against the principles of a football player, even against their morals.”
Ask yourself if you were any of the Barca players, do you think that you need some kind of protection from these kinds of players who is trying to use all kinds of dirty tactics to get a result? Not that I condone play acting but Madrid players went too far. So far until the relationships of some of the Spanish national team players are beyond repair.
On the match itself;
why isn't Mourinho talking about his NEGATIVE TACTICS? Why time and time again is he diverting the attentions away from his poor tactics?
You don't sit back in your home match. But every time the English reporters report that Mourinho is a great tactician? What kind of great tactician let's his 200million dollar team sit back very deep and let Ronaldo all the attacking alone? Not try to score in the home leg of a Champions League match? If he is really that great, he would know that is is hard to score at the Camp Nou. Im sure you guys were watching ESPN as well. I don’t know what on earth the commentator at half time was talking about saying that Mourinho did his home work.
What home work? Told the gardeners not to water the pitch and cut the grass in order to disrupt the passing of our players? Cause Madrid sure didn’t do what was agreed with UEFA which is to water the pitch before the match?
We didn;t even have any sort of Left Back and yet he didn't make use of our handicap. Not to say that I don't think that Puyol is good but he certainly doesn;t have to pace to match with Dive Maria nor Ronaldo. So if Mourinho was that great of a tactician, why didn't he instruct his players to attack Puyol's side?
We had to play Mascherano at Center back. Why didn't they test him more?
Mourinho said that he tried to play for a 0-0 draw at HOME? And score Away at the Camp Nou? That is pathetic. He knows very well that it is hard to score at our Camp Nou.
In the 1st half, they could hardly string passes together. Same goes in the 2nd half. Instead of bringing a player who could help their midfield like Kaka, he brought on Adebayor, a target man. To make matters worse after the red card he didn’t change a single thing. Granero is DM, why didn’t he bring him on ad take off an attacker like Ozil or Dive Maria? Other than that he had Kaka, Benzema, Higuain amongst others.
Who did we put on? Affelay who costs 3Million and Sergi Roberto, another young player from the youth academy.
Mourinho downplaying Barca’s CL triumph in 2008/2009 season?
Did he forget that in Champions League, you would have to get through group stages and the KO. Barca thrashed Bayern and Lyon in the KO stages and beat Man United in the final comfortably. It is not a one match Cup, it’s a long marathon!! Mourinho having a short term memory loss?
Did he forget how he while still with Inter beat us last season? By playing all out in the home leg, attacking game. And did he forget that Milito’s goal was offside and how many calls were against Barca? In the 2nd leg, we had a legitimate goal disallowed. Did you hear Guardiola complain?
Really lastly, is it better to intentionally hurt people or play act and harm nobody? Barca players were kicked while on the ball and worse, off the ball many times during the last few matches against them.
Would it better for Barca players to fight back with dirty play? Fight fire with fire? It would’ve certainly been a hell lot uglier match. Madrid players got away with it for the past few matches because Mourinho influenced the ref’s in an indirect way as he was complaining about the ref’s all season long.
Stop letting Mourinho play with your minds. You guys shouldn't take what ever is printed on the newspaper as the most reliable thing. What is printed on the newspaper is just for them ( the newspaper) to sell more copies. So obviously they will put it all over their papers with Mourinho's rants. He knows that this is his only way to save himself from critics over his tactics.
-I guess it’s ok for Arbeloa to elbow and stand on his legs. And to make matters worse pretend as if nothing happened and dragged Villa up. This is what their Spanish National Team Coach Vicente Del Bosque had to say about that incident; “What Arbeloa & Ramos did to Villa after that was against the principles of a football player, even against their morals.” -it’s ok too for Adebayor to slap Puyol and Busquets?
like sumone said, this mou if he win, he claim hes a special one, eventhough got controversy also on his win, if he lose, he blame everyone.
mou pls stop whining or find excuses on the loss coz it will not change the score line!! improve on the next game and am really looking forward on next el classico!!
p/s: i choose alex ferguson as the best coach over mou any time
This post has been edited by solidsnake_84: Apr 30 2011, 12:35 PM
Most if the time when rm player can't coupe our passing or messi speed dribble
this will happen ..this what the Jose implement in rm team
Added on April 30, 2011, 1:50 pm
QUOTE(barca96 @ Apr 30 2011, 12:10 PM)
On Mourinho and his red cards.
UEFA didn't instruct; 1) S. Ramos to kick at Messi after being skinned in Nov.2010. 2) Albiol to strangle Villa while being the last defender, in the penalty box. 3) Di Maria to make a late from behind tackle which will always result in a yellow. Two yellows-RED!
4) Pepe to put his studs up shin-high. In EPL it would've been alright but not in UEFA. But someone who did this before
will clearly not get the benefit of the doubt of the referee. He has a reputation for being violent.
If Alves didn’t pull out his leg, he would’ve probably been in hospital now. Would you fans feel better if that was the case? Would that make the red card worth it? some times you don’t need to wait for blood to drop.
And put yourself in the ref’s position. You see one player who has been aggressive all night going in with studs up shin high, take in to account he is someone with a violent record, WHAT WOULD YOU DO? WITHOUT THE AID OF REPLAYS? WHAT?
Those were the RED cards and not even something that wasn’t called for or seen by the ref. Now something about the goals
5) Messi dribbling past 5 players ,including keeper is 7 player six madrid defender standing in their own pitch 6) Messi to score twice
UEFA certainly didn’t have anything to do with all those listed above right?
Didn't you guys notice how MAdrid time and time again got away with dirty plays over the last 3 matches?
I can't and will not go back to each and every match to take notes because it will not help anything. DID HE FORGET ABOUT THAT? ALL THE NON-CALLS, DIVING BY HIS OWN PLAYERS THAT WENT UN PUNISHED AND INSTEAD WE GOT PUNISHED FOR IT? Dive Maria, Marcelo??
Just take a look at the last match. -Di Maria took a dive after and Alves got a yellow card. Similar thing happened last week at the Bernaboo and he got a penalty. -And later on in the match he pushed Puyol after he lost the battle. It happened on the right corner from Barca's goal in the 2nd half.
-Marcelo TWICE stamped on Pedro. Why is nobody talking about that? There were stud marks on his knee for goodness sake!
-Adebayor used his hands to push Puyol. Right in front of the lines-man. And then later on on Busquets.
-Ramos to block Messi's run. That would always result in a yellow. And too bad, he will miss the 2nd leg.
-Arbeloa elbowed Villa and then as if it wasn't enough stood on his legs. And to make matters worse pretend as if nothing happened and dragged Villa up. This is what their Spanish National Team Coach Vicente Del Bosque had to say about that incident; “What Arbeloa & Ramos did to Villa after that was against the principles of a football player, even against their morals.” Ask yourself if you were any of the Barca players, do you think that you need some kind of protection from these kinds of players who is trying to use all kinds of dirty tactics to get a result? Not that I condone play acting but Madrid players went too far. So far until the relationships of some of the Spanish national team players are beyond repair.
On the match itself;
why isn't Mourinho talking about his NEGATIVE TACTICS? Why time and time again is he diverting the attentions away from his poor tactics?
You don't sit back in your home match. But every time the English reporters report that Mourinho is a great tactician? What kind of great tactician let's his 200million dollar team sit back very deep and let Ronaldo all the attacking alone? Not try to score in the home leg of a Champions League match? If he is really that great, he would know that is is hard to score at the Camp Nou. Im sure you guys were watching ESPN as well. I don’t know what on earth the commentator at half time was talking about saying that Mourinho did his home work.
What home work? Told the gardeners not to water the pitch and cut the grass in order to disrupt the passing of our players? Cause Madrid sure didn’t do what was agreed with UEFA which is to water the pitch before the match?
We didn;t even have any sort of Left Back and yet he didn't make use of our handicap. Not to say that I don't think that Puyol is good but he certainly doesn;t have to pace to match with Dive Maria nor Ronaldo. So if Mourinho was that great of a tactician, why didn't he instruct his players to attack Puyol's side?
We had to play Mascherano at Center back. Why didn't they test him more?
Mourinho said that he tried to play for a 0-0 draw at HOME? And score Away at the Camp Nou? That is pathetic. He knows very well that it is hard to score at our Camp Nou.
In the 1st half, they could hardly string passes together. Same goes in the 2nd half. Instead of bringing a player who could help their midfield like Kaka, he brought on Adebayor, a target man. To make matters worse after the red card he didn’t change a single thing. Granero is DM, why didn’t he bring him on ad take off an attacker like Ozil or Dive Maria? Other than that he had Kaka, Benzema, Higuain amongst others.
Who did we put on? Affelay who costs 3Million and Sergi Roberto, another young player from the youth academy.
Mourinho downplaying Barca’s CL triumph in 2008/2009 season?
Did he forget that in Champions League, you would have to get through group stages and the KO. Barca thrashed Bayern and Lyon in the KO stages and beat Man United in the final comfortably. It is not a one match Cup, it’s a long marathon!! Mourinho having a short term memory loss?
Did he forget how he while still with Inter beat us last season? By playing all out in the home leg, attacking game. And did he forget that Milito’s goal was offside and how many calls were against Barca? In the 2nd leg, we had a legitimate goal disallowed. Did you hear Guardiola complain?
Really lastly, is it better to intentionally hurt people or play act and harm nobody? Barca players were kicked while on the ball and worse, off the ball many times during the last few matches against them.
Would it better for Barca players to fight back with dirty play? Fight fire with fire? It would’ve certainly been a hell lot uglier match. Madrid players got away with it for the past few matches because Mourinho influenced the ref’s in an indirect way as he was complaining about the ref’s all season long.
Stop letting Mourinho play with your minds. You guys shouldn't take what ever is printed on the newspaper as the most reliable thing. What is printed on the newspaper is just for them ( the newspaper) to sell more copies. So obviously they will put it all over their papers with Mourinho's rants. He knows that this is his only way to save himself from critics over his tactics.
-I guess it’s ok for Arbeloa to elbow and stand on his legs. And to make matters worse pretend as if nothing happened and dragged Villa up. This is what their Spanish National Team Coach Vicente Del Bosque had to say about that incident; “What Arbeloa & Ramos did to Villa after that was against the principles of a football player, even against their morals.” -it’s ok too for Adebayor to slap Puyol and Busquets?
Im done...
This post has been edited by Sebastiank21: Apr 30 2011, 01:50 PM
Nah, I'm sure they'll be fine, at least on the football pitch. The relationship will grow cold, but not on the pitch, where all will be forgotten. Casillas especially is a gentleman, so he will have no problem to reconnect with Barca players.
But perhaps the most surprising addition to this bunch of butcher-on-the-pitch players is Arbeloa, at least IMO. I think he was among the most cynical and nasty RM player, even surpassing Ramos and Pepe. I guess that's why Mourinho mentioned his name when asked who was the most important team member. He will do exactly what his coach instruct him. I can't get the image outta my head when he sliding kicked Adriano's balls
Nah, I'm sure they'll be fine, at least on the football pitch. The relationship will grow cold, but not on the pitch, where all will be forgotten. Casillas especially is a gentleman, so he will have no problem to reconnect with Barca players.
But perhaps the most surprising addition to this bunch of butcher-on-the-pitch players is Arbeloa, at least IMO. I think he was among the most cynical and nasty RM player, even surpassing Ramos and Pepe. I guess that's why Mourinho mentioned his name when asked who was the most important team member. He will do exactly what his coach instruct him. I can't get the image outta my head when he sliding kicked Adriano's balls
I agree with you 100% on Casillas and Arbeloa... Adriano injury is because of Arbeloa's hard tackle so i've heard. His intention when he did the is really to make the player injured i suppose.. Same case when he stepped on Villas leg, Elbowing Messi.. crap.. If its not about injuring, its sure intends to provoke the player to do something stupid and later get a red card.
I think thats why Pep is so angry with Mourinho before last game and mentioned "We wont be bullied anymore"...
I agree with you 100% on Casillas and Arbeloa... Adriano injury is because of Arbeloa's hard tackle so i've heard. His intention when he did the is really to make the player injured i suppose.. Same case when he stepped on Villas leg, Elbowing Messi.. crap.. If its not about injuring, its sure intends to provoke the player to do something stupid and later get a red card.
I think thats why Pep is so angry with Mourinho before last game and mentioned "We wont be bullied anymore"...
its not jsut that. Mourinho has been going all season long complaining over how the refs and even the other teams favor us. But as usual he forgot that they were awarded penalties 10x more than Barca did and most of them were soft ones too. Usual suspect, Dive Maria.
its not jsut that. Mourinho has been going all season long complaining over how the refs and even the other teams favor us. But as usual he forgot that they were awarded penalties 10x more than Barca did and most of them were soft ones too. Usual suspect, Dive Maria.
jose is well known for his mind game whatever thing he can do he will not hesitate to do it ....but when he failed 1 match only with barca he rage what a kiasu person
jose is well known for his mind game whatever thing he can do he will not hesitate to do it ....but when he failed 1 match only with barca he rage what a kiasu person
yea..he went for the ball... tats his job... and i will be condemning him if he goes for Alves' leg
instead of talking about Alves play acting
and referee is capable of doing his job no need every "attempt to win the ball" need the "assistance" of barca players to help with the decision making
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