Not at all, it's the same, check back what I posted. It's your comprehension that's changing,
You can witness your answered prayer when it arrive.
For example. You pray for a sum of money to pay off xxx reason.
Somehow God answered and you
see the money comes in.
That is the sight you see.
I've already highlighted the part where you seeing the result is the
end result of your Faith. This is the part you have problem understanding.
Nobody is disputing bold part in your question. I'm familiar with how Faith works. I live my life by Faith. You are throwing questions which is in different understanding to what I post, you can check back all my quotes for confirmation.
It's like this, you keep on harping on you need sight in order for Faith to Work. <--you are contending this but it's not what I'm saying.
I keep on explaining, Sight is the part you see when your prayers are answered which means something else.
Try and understand more below about Faith
Consider the following verse.
When you pray for a need to God, the scripture says According to your faith will it be done to you.
What this basically means if you expect not to receive it, then you won't. If you expect to receive, you will. In other word, you need to have an expectation of
seeing it fulfilled by Faith, even though you don't see it now. I'm not talking about your physical eye, I'm talking about your spiritual eye of Faith which is really your mind.
Why I quote 2 Corinthians 1:20 is to tell you can confidently come to God and expect a Yes in answer to your prayers.
I hope these 2 verses help you to understand better.
Nothing to retract, forgive me but I think you should try and read again on post to have better understanding.
You can pull out every of my quote and by God's grace I will be able to answer you.
There's no error of interpretation neither it's stretched.
You can check the Greek lexicon. It is in context. It's only your error of understanding that lead you to repeat your questions.
You agree the scripture is divinely inspired and 2 Timothy 3:16 says
All Scripture is inspired by God. ALL means ALL scripture.
It can be used for encouragement and spiritual understanding of God.
Wrong. The scripture of the Bible is not conclusive to only the apostle time. It apply to current and future. It applies anytime.
I agree that word prosper is not only conclusive to material wealth alone, it encompass in all successful undertakings of whatever you do.
But never the less when I mentioned that God wants you to think prosperity Life, Immediately you quote in context of Material Wealth in Post #1498
and start to argue everything out of proportion.
[color=red]If you check the dictionary the word prosperity is the state of flourishing, thriving, good fortune and / or successful social status.
Tell me again if I misinterpret the scripture or you have comprehension problem? Check the dictionary of the meaning prosperity
The reason why I mentioned material wealth is included because
it can be included along with other Blessings.
3 John 1:2
Beloved, I pray that in all respects you may prosper in business
Beloved, I pray that in all respects you may prosper in Life
Beloved, I pray that in all respects you may prosper in Material Wealth
Beloved, I pray that in all respects you may prosper in Relationship
Beloved, I pray that in all respects you may prosper in etc etc etc.
That is general well wishing in prosperity. Our God is a good God.
You already answered your own question above. It is spiritual blessings.
Just to correct you,
Jesus death on the cross is also a physical act.He absorbed all of God's judgement and wrath through
physical punishment to atone for the sins of Mankind.
Yes God impart all of his blessings through Christ Jesus in this life.
1 John 4:17 is the key to the answer.
Jesus has gone up to the heavenly realm to be with the Father. Jesus is now glorified, full of grace, power and majesty.
In him there is no sickness, there's no poverty, no sin, no death, etc. 1 John 4:17 says, Just as Jesus is, so are we in this world. Take note it's in this Earthly realm, this world, no other world.
Because We are in Christ Jesus, just as He is without poverty but Rich, without Disease but Healthy, without Sin, without Death but life, etc.
So are we in this manner.
That is why our Heavenly Father could impart all of his blessings to us as in Ephesians 1:3 and 2 Peter 1:3. because of the restoration.
As to your question why we die? Our Physical Body will die a natural death because God has limited our life span. (Genesis 6:3)
It does not relate in the way you said it.
At the same time, Our spirit which is eternal cannot die. We have been granted Eternal Life in Christ Jesus.
You are right in saying we should have no sickness. That is our inherited right as Children of God. But why is it Christians still get sickness?
Because our mind is still in the old way of thinking**. Our Old Flesh Carnal Nature is attuned to death in Sin.
The Scripture says Be transformed by the renewing of your mind. (Romans 12:2)
That is why (Ephesians 4:24) says to put on the New Life. You have access to all of God's Blessing including Healing.
You can quote Isaiah 53:4–5, Isaiah 53:5 , 1 Peter 2:24, Exodus 15:26 to name a few
Well, maybe I can ask you, what is it you want to know about Godliness?
The idea of God wants you to be wealthy is not nonsense. It is scripture supported, feel free to browse through the verses below.
Go Check in the dictionary meaning of Eternal and Abundance with regards to John 10:10.
Once you understand the difference, you'll see John 10:10 meaning of abundance is in line with the scripture below as well.
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Deuteronomy 8:18
2 Corinthians 8:9
Deuteronomy 28:8
Proverbs 3:9–10
Deuteronomy 28:3–6
Deuteronomy 7:14
Proverbs 10:22
Philippians 4:19
Luke 6:38
2 Corinthians 9:6-8
3 John 1:2
Matthew 7:11
Deuteronomy 28:12–13
the strongest supported scripture is 2 Corinthians 8:9 Read the Greek Translation of the meaning Rich.
The passage about Macedonian Church is much related to Luke 6:38.
It's talking about generosity. Give and it will be given unto you.
And the verse 2 Corinthians 8:9 is a promise and blessing to all Believers of Christ, not just in this context.
The same thing with John 10:10 is applied to all Believers of Christ, not just in it's passage context.
Well I was entertaining your question whether they got rich or not. I quote Luke 6:38 because that's what they did in verse 2 Corinthians 8:3.
I never said God is wrong to commend them in their persistence long suffering. You're just putting this into my mouth.
Why God Call them rich? Well because God is the vindicator to all of his children. He upholds those who are afflicted.
He commends them because they are
faithful until the end NOT because they are poor. Know the distinction.
To summarise since you have taken me on a long and winding journey
You said: God wants you to be wealthy amny time now. (thats a doctrine) -
proven with the scriptures above*.i said: God commends both Macedonia and Smryna who were poor, for their faith. -
Correct! for their faith, NOT because they were poor.Jesus became poor.
i said: Whether poor or rich, faith is not dependant on these states of material well being. -
Correct and I also don't what you're trying to imply here against what I've said 
You said christians Misunderstood God about wealth and prosperity. -
Correct. Already explained above. Check **Iterating this: Jesus, Macedonia and Smryna misunderstood God.
Only Macedonia and Smryna. Check **YET God commends them for their POVERTY. -
Wrong. God commend them for being Faithful.YET Jesus became POOR. Afterall Jesus led by example. -
So that you can be Rich. 2 Corinthians 8:9Jesus is one with the Father. Jesus was the one who gave the verses *
He is in favor of prospering you.
Read those verse.
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