QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Oct 15 2012, 11:15 PM)
Was Making a point here.
You don't like to be judged.
What makes you think others like to be judged?
Same thing you used against me not to judge you.
So Why do you still judge others?
I know you're trying to say how else do you call a false prophet, a false prophet?
That is the part you don't get it. That is not the point.
Matthew 7 is clear. When it says do not judge. Do not judge. Jesus never give you a Go ahead.
And you're trying to justify saying as long you don't have a log <insert whatever log> it gives you a right to judge others.
That is not biblical because you contradict the meaning of grace. Your righteousness is given to you as gift, you didn't earn it. You will never have a clean Log of your own.
So by the same token, have mercy attitude towards others. That's why I quoted the parables.
Hi
Methinks what you told me NOT to do, you just did it to me! Guess what the scriptures calls these type of people?
i judge/discern beacuse Jesus instructs it.
You have a poor way of exegesis....in Mat 5-7, He was peaching aganinst the ways and teachings of the pharisees/teachers of the law. It is for this reason they hated Him.
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20For I say unto you, That except your righteousness shall exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, ye shall in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven.
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5:27Ye have heard that it was said by them of old time, Thou shalt not commit adultery:
28But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart.
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5:43Ye have heard that it hath been said, Thou shalt love thy neighbour, and hate thine enemy.
44But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;
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6:1Take heed that ye do not your alms before men, to be seen of them: otherwise ye have no reward of your Father which is in heaven.
2Therefore when thou doest thine alms, do not sound a trumpet before thee, as the hypocrites do in the synagogues and in the streets, that they may have glory of men. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward.
3But when thou doest alms, let not thy left hand know what thy right hand doeth:
4That thine alms may be in secret: and thy Father which seeth in secret himself shall reward thee openly.
5And when thou prayest, thou shalt not be as the hypocrites are: for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and in the corners of the streets, that they may be seen of men. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward.
6But thou, when thou prayest, enter into thy closet, and when thou hast shut thy door, pray to thy Father which is in secret; and thy Father which seeth in secret shall reward thee openly.
7But when ye pray, use not vain repetitions, as the heathen do: for they think that they shall be heard for their much speaking.
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Mat7:1Judge not, that ye be not judged.
2For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.
3And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?
4Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote out of thine eye; and, behold, a beam is in thine own eye?
5Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye.
It does not end at JUDGE NOT. It is speaking to the hypocritical teachers of the law at that time.
They were HYPOCRITES. They were instructing the people while they did aganinst their own instructions.
The instruction by Jesus did not end at JUDGE NOT.
In essence, you are not suppose to tell someone not to do something while you are doing the same yourself.
It continues..............
Because in the next lines Jesus instructs us to judge/discern the fruits of FALSE prophets.
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15Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.
16 Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?
17Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit.
18A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.
19Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.
20 Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.
21Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
Twice He mentioned that we will know them by their fruits.
i asked you a question: When a prophet spews FALSE prophecies what do you call him?
We are given gifts by the Holy spirit. These are gifts because the righteouness of Christ dwells in us.
We do not claim righteousness on our own merits. stop writing something against me that i did not say. That is
called bearing false witness. The gifts are for the building of the body,
while false prophecies will destroy the body.
Judging righteously demands the scriptures to judge, not us.
In scriptures when a prophet prophesises FALSELY, he is called a FALSE prophet.
i did not say that. The scriptures DID.
Do you wanna change the scriptures?
Mercy and forgiveness is a differnt issue. It does not change the fact that a prophet who spews false prophecies
is called a FALSE prophet. If they repent of their mistakes, they are to be shown mercy and forgiven by the church.
That is a differnt discussion.
Was Jesus being unkind and without grace as you put it, when He called both the Pharisees and Sadducees “a generation of Vipers” (snakes) (Matt. 3:7)
In the same way you told me not to judge, you are judging me.......guess what the bible calls this type of person?
This post has been edited by prophetjul: Oct 16 2012, 08:16 AM