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OlgaC4
post Oct 2 2012, 03:51 PM

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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Oct 2 2012, 03:48 PM)
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So Far, What I gave you are, all the scriptures from the Bible. The reason for quoting scripture so that you know it's not my own words.

It is quite clear on what it says.

So Far all your return are words and sentences that contradict the Bible. They are your own reasoning.

I ask you to let me know which scripture actually relates to what you said, so far you are not able to.

And you say I sesat?  shakehead.gif
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Ok just tell me which Church you go? You can give all the Scripture but the way you interpret is all wrong.

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post Oct 2 2012, 03:55 PM

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Matthew 7:15. "Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravenous wolves. 16 "You will know them by their fruits.
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post Oct 2 2012, 03:56 PM

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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Oct 2 2012, 03:55 PM)
Really? Which Part is wrong?
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Just tell me which Church. If possible i will try to save ur ass.
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post Oct 2 2012, 04:09 PM

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Which Church my bro in christ?
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post Oct 2 2012, 04:31 PM

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I am still reading Act now. Maybe i will skip and read Galatians.

Anyway I am from Glad Tiding PJ. Attending young adult service
Saturday 5pm.

Please do come to my church this friday 8.30pm Satuday 5.00pm and Sunday 8.30am and 11.00 am for Sidney Mohede.

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post Oct 2 2012, 10:37 PM

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The is big gap of 400years between the old and new testament. What happend during this 400years?
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post Oct 3 2012, 12:25 AM

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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Oct 2 2012, 11:45 PM)
Is Sidney Mohede in this video?



3rd Singer? After Chris Tomlin?

Looks very much like him, the one wearing the shawl.

Starts at 1.03
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post Oct 3 2012, 12:50 AM

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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Oct 3 2012, 12:38 AM)
Indonesians are strong Christians.

Even our Brothers in East Malaysia.

Their passion is deeply rooted.

I dunno, maybe I might come.
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post Oct 4 2012, 01:01 PM

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QUOTE(OlgaC4 @ Oct 3 2012, 12:25 AM)
Ya. Hosana hosana is written by him but make famous by chris  tomlin
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post Oct 6 2012, 11:49 AM

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About 5,000 came. The present of God was so strong. We worship the Lord like 2hrs.
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post Oct 15 2012, 09:04 AM

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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Oct 13 2012, 02:05 PM)
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We are Righteous through Faith Part 2
Abraham lived under the era of God's grace before the 10 commandment was introduced. It was only after the 10 commandments was given, the whole world was put under the curse of the law where if you transgressed, you pay for it. (Ezekiel 18:20). Do good, get good, do bad get beat.

But under Grace, Abraham did not suffer as those who are under the law of the 10 commandments even though he did wrong. Abraham lived about 400 years before the Law was given.

If you know the history of Abraham, there was more or less 3 accounts of events where he has fallen from grace.

1. He lied to the Pharaoh of Egypt about his Wife saying as Sister for feared for his life. (Genesis 12:13)
2. He didn't wait for God for Isaac and laid with his maid servant commanded by his wife giving birth to Ishmael. (Genesis 16:2)
3. He lied to King Abimelech the same as Pharoah about his wife as sister (Genesis 20:2)

And yet the very first blessings given to Abraham was God made him very rich in Cattle, Silver and Gold (Genesis 13:1). God prospered Him.( Who says God is not for prospering?) Wait a minute, this liar became wealthy and God protected him and his wife when it should be him who should be punished for lying and giving in to disappointment and disbelief from the wife. (Genesis 16:2). And God called Abraham who just lied, a prophet. (Genesis 20:7)

Didn't I hear people say God cannot tolerate Sin and will judicially punish those who sin according to what they've done? It's should be worse in the Old Testament because Jesus did not come yet. So What happened?  Grace happened. (Romans 5:20)  Abraham lived in the period of grace before the 10 commandment was given. The Old Testament is the shadow of copy of the things to come. God was demonstrating what is grace all about.

The 10 commandments was never the heart of God. That was never his intention in the first place. It is only when Israel boasted they can do all that God commands, God totally change his tone and became extremely strict and gave them the 10 commandments. God hates self righteousness. That was what Israel did. They wanted to come to God their own way.

The 10 commandment cannot make you righteous. It's sole purpose is to bring Man to the end of himself. And it's proven, nobody could fulfilled the perfect Law. (There is no one righteous, not even one). (Romans 3:1).

So Please do not go back to the 10 commandments. Study the Bible from A-Z.

So what is the New Covenant of Jesus Christ? It's all about grace and faith. You are saved by grace and justified through Faith in Jesus Christ. Why?
Because Only He could fulfilled the Law perfectly. By putting your faith in Him, God will credit your Faith as righteousness just as He credit Abraham's.

There is a safety valve in this Gospel of grace. When you understand and believe right, The Holy Spirit will come and guide you into all Truth. He will teach you why you shouldn't sin, why money cannot satisfy, etc.

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Deuteronomy 6:6-9
New International Version (NIV)
6 These commandments that I give you today are to be on your hearts. 7 Impress them on your children. Talk about them when you sit at home and when you walk along the road, when you lie down and when you get up. 8 Tie them as symbols on your hands and bind them on your foreheads. 9 Write them on the doorframes of your houses and on your gates.

Deuteronomy 6:16-17
New International Version (NIV)
16 Do not put the Lord your God to the test as you did at Massah. 17 Be sure to keep the commands of the Lord your God and the stipulations and decrees he has given you.

The false gospel of grace is empty words, purposed to deceive you - to convince you to do nothing, remaining in your sins, so your soul is destroyed.False grace/salvation, keeps the forgiveness and ignores repentance


Paul again: What then? Shall we sin, because we are not under the law, but under grace? God forbid. Romans 6:15
So grace, is not a license to continue to sin. We are not condemned while we are waiting to be cleansed,
but per Paul again, we have to continue to work out our salvation with fear and trembling. Philippians 2:12

So the false grace/salvation doctrines are based on "cherry picking" a few verses from the Bible about grace and twisting them to mean salvation, while ignoring the preponderance of other verses throughout the Bible that totally change their meaning considered alone; by promoting "instant salvation by faith and grace," they excuse evil to be good, they make black white; and they ask you to pay them money for their error, even when they are specifically forbidden to take money. 1 Pet 5:2. And Acts 20:29-31 tells us: Even from among your own selves men will come to the front who, by saying perverse (distorted and corrupt) things, will endeavor to draw away the disciples after them. They were taught by Bible Colleges rather than by Christ himself. See a few of George Fox's writings on these blind guides. Instant grace is the broad way that leads to destruction, vs. the narrow way that is contracted by pressure that leads to life, which few will find.

In Malaysia we pick durian.

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QUOTE(OlgaC4 @ Oct 15 2012, 09:04 AM)
Deuteronomy 6:6-9
New International Version (NIV)
6 These commandments that I give you today are to be on your hearts. 7 Impress them on your children. Talk about them when you sit at home and when you walk along the road, when you lie down and when you get up. 8 Tie them as symbols on your hands and bind them on your foreheads. 9 Write them on the doorframes of your houses and on your gates.

Deuteronomy 6:16-17
New International Version (NIV)
16 Do not put the Lord your God to the test as you did at Massah. 17 Be sure to keep the commands of the Lord your God and the stipulations and decrees he has given you.

The false gospel of grace is empty words, purposed to deceive you - to convince you to do nothing, remaining in your sins, so your soul is destroyed.False grace/salvation, keeps the forgiveness and ignores repentance


Paul again: What then? Shall we sin, because we are not under the law, but under grace? God forbid. Romans 6:15
So grace, is not a license to continue to sin. We are not condemned while we are waiting to be cleansed,
but per Paul again, we have to continue to work out our salvation with fear and trembling. Philippians 2:12

So the false grace/salvation doctrines are based on "cherry picking" a few verses from the Bible about grace and twisting them to mean salvation, while ignoring the preponderance of other verses throughout the Bible that totally change their meaning considered alone; by promoting "instant salvation by faith and grace," they excuse evil to be good, they make black white; and they ask you to pay them money for their error, even when they are specifically forbidden to take money. 1 Pet 5:2. And Acts 20:29-31 tells us: Even from among your own selves men will come to the front who, by saying perverse (distorted and corrupt) things, will endeavor to draw away the disciples after them. They were taught by Bible Colleges rather than by Christ himself. See a few of George Fox's writings on these blind guides. Instant grace is the broad way that leads to destruction, vs. the narrow way that is contracted by pressure that leads to life, which few will find.

In Malaysia we pick durian.

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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Oct 15 2012, 09:37 AM)
What is the purpose of the New Covenant? 

Why did Jesus come?
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I think better we meet up in order to save your lost soul. If possible i will call my senior pastor in.
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post Oct 15 2012, 09:48 AM

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Comelah Unknow warrior.

I really scare you will lead all the Lowyat Bro in christ into hell.
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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Oct 15 2012, 09:41 AM)
That's not the answer.

Even your Senior Pastor understood grace.

But not you.

Still do not avoid.

What is the purpose of the New Covenant? 

Why did Jesus come?
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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Oct 15 2012, 09:50 AM)
Bro.

I need your understanding of what you understand about the New Covenant.

Then I will explain my part.

you don't have to worry about others, it is only you at the moment.

Even PehKay understood why.
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post Oct 15 2012, 09:57 AM

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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Oct 15 2012, 09:51 AM)
Have you consulted your cell group?
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Not yet, this question will make me look like blur sotong after so many year attending Church and Cell.
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Jesus told five out of seven churches of believers in Revelation that they were lost, on the way to destruction. The Smyrna believers were about to enter tribulation, whom he encouraged. Notice again! Jesus said that five out seven Christian churches of believers were on their way to Hell. Only the church of Philadelphia was doing well because they had kept [obeyed] his word with patient endurance. Massive error had already taken hold 2000 years ago, until today the false church is pervasive with grace supposedly being a license to continue to sin.

In error the ministers of today say: "Because you have faith in Christ, even though you continue to sin, you are righteous and saved."
He who says to the wicked, "You are righteous;" him shall the people curse, nations shall abhor him. Pro 24:24
You will eventually curse the all the ministers who have promoted this pernicious lie.
In effect they are telling you, don't seek, don't obey, don't fear, don't strive.

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QUOTE(pehkay @ Oct 15 2012, 10:25 AM)
You sure you are not quoting from somewhere??? Ok ... let's assume it is true .... then how will you explain IN CONTEXT, the verses in chapter 1? John addressing the 7 churches and using these words?

4 John to the seven churches which are in Asia: Grace to you and peace from Him who is and who was and who is coming, and from the seven Spirits who are before His throne,

5 And from Jesus Christ, the faithful Witness, the Firstborn of the dead, and the Ruler of the kings of the earth. To Him who loves us and has released us from our sins by His blood

6 And made us a kingdom, priests to His God and Father, to Him be the glory and the might forever and ever. Amen.

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Massive error had already taken hold 2000 years ago. So choose your Church wisely if not kena burn like BBQ chicken in hell.

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