Indeed PehKay,

This morning I read in

Isaiah 54:5-8
5 For your Maker is your husband—
the Lord Almighty is his name—
the Holy One of Israel is your Redeemer;
he is called the God of all the earth.

6 The Lord will call you back
as if you were a wife deserted and distressed in spirit—
a wife who married young,
only to be rejected,” says your God.

7 For a brief moment I abandoned you,
but with deep compassion I will bring you back.

8 In a surge of anger
I hid my face from you for a moment,
but with everlasting kindness
I will have compassion on you,”
says the Lord your Redeemer.

Felt really deeply loved because I understand the Love between a Husband and a Wife. It's a type of Love the envy of many. One that can never be broken and greatly defended by "The Husband", our God.


And in Verse 9-10

9 To me this is like the days of Noah,
when I swore that the waters of Noah would never again cover the earth.
So now I have sworn not to be angry with you,
never to rebuke you again.

10 Though the mountains be shaken
and the hills be removed,
yet my unfailing love for you will not be shaken
nor my covenant of peace be removed,”
says the Lord, who has compassion on you.


Bold part, It is very true under the New Covenant in the New Testament. Allow me to share with all of you.

There is a passage in the Bible that says the Devil is like a roaring Lion seeking Whom He may Devour (1 Peter 5:8) but also know that the Devil is the Father of all lies.

Our Lord Jesus is typified as the Lion of Judah and here we have scripture saying the devil is like a roaring lion. The key word here "is like". It means it's not the real thing. He will try and give you a false impression that God is angry with you because of your sins by imitating a fake roaring lion.

But Let Isaiah 54:9 be deeply rooted and planted in your Heart.

Know that All your sins have been punished in the body of our Lord Jesus Christ. God's wrath have been met and fully satisfied. God is no longer angry at you.

God says He sworn not to be angry with you and He declares in Isaiah 43:25

"I, even I, am he who blots out your transgressions, for my own sake, and remembers your sins no more.

So come to God as you are. BOLDLY come to God as you are.

Amen. In Revelation 5 one of the elders introduced Christ as the Lion of the tribe of Judah, but when John turned to see Him, he saw a Lamb (vv. 5-6). To the enemy, He is the Lion; to us, the redeemed ones, a Lamb

Oh here are more wonderful quotes for the divine romance

Jeremiah 31:3 the Lord says, “Yea, I have loved thee with an everlasting love: therefore with lovingkindness have I drawn thee.” When God appeared to His people, He “dated” them and later even courted them.

According to Ezekiel 16, God loved Israel when He saw her in the wilderness. Verse 8 describes this love: “Now when I passed by thee, and looked upon thee, behold, thy time was the time of love; and I spread my skirt over thee, and covered thy nakedness: yea, I sware unto thee, and entered into a covenant with thee, saith the Lord God, and thou becamest mine.” By entering into a covenant with Israel, God betrothed her to Himself.

Jeremiah 2:2 also speaks of this covenant, this engagement: “I remember thee, the kindness of thy youth, the love of thy betrothals, how thou followedst after me in the wilderness, in a land that was not sown” (Heb.).

this must be the only thread in lowyat that runs for so many pages.

We need a V6.

Feel like creating one later when this one runs out.

Edit: not unless someone else wants to do the honours.

This post has been edited by unknown warrior: Oct 23 2012, 01:16 PM

is this Cath or Pro?
i'm just wondering?

http://www.gladtidings.my/resource.htm

24 June
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Rev Dr. Vincent Leoh

Is all about Grace.

When you know Christ, you hungry for the word.

I've learned from one of our visiting preachers,

that the various denominations existing in the body Christ does not denote separation but it's a testimony

that God is restoring his Church, step by step through various denominations.

All in all none of each of the denomination is complete by itself. But we learn from each other and

refer whatever doctrines established in those denominations with the Scriptures.

That is why Jesus prayed for unity in

John 17:20-21

20 My prayer is not for them alone. I pray also for those who will believe in me through their message,

21 that all of them may be one, Father, just as you are in me and I am in you. May they also be in us so that the world may believe that you have sent me.

last time when I was selling camera, I got a thread with 293 pages at http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1226457
Its was my 1st ever thread with so many pages & hits. Now no more such stories.

Sell your BBQ Chicken with lucky draw for camera.

Maybe can generate many pages.

Well .... I guess if you all ever ask on what is the difference between

a promise ? an oath ? a covenant ? and a testament ?

A promise is an ordinary word spoken by God promising you that He will do something for you.

An oath is a confirmation of an ordinary word. God confirmed His ordinary word of promise by means of His oath (Heb 6:13, 17).

When the promise has been confirmed by an oath, it immediately becomes a covenant. What we have received from God is not just an ordinary word as a promise but a covenant, a contract, confirmed by God's oath and sealed with His divine being.

A covenant always binds people more than a promise does. There are many promises or bequests in the new covenant. There is one new covenant, but in these covenant there are many bequests and facts bequeathed to use.

The One who made the covenant died so that the covenant might become a bequeathed will, that is, a testament. Now the covenant is no longer merely a covenant but a testament bequeathed by the One who enacted the covenant.

What we have today is not a promise or even merely a covenant, but a testament, a will, which is an advanced covenant. An advanced covenant is one that is bequeathed with the accomplished facts, which are the fulfilled promises. When the promise has been fulfilled, it becomes the covenant, and when the covenant has been bequeathed, it becomes the testament. In the promise we have the promised matters, in the covenant we have the accomplished facts, and in the testament we have the accomplished facts bequeathed as bequests.

Hope it help someone ...

This post has been edited by pehkay: Oct 24 2012, 10:53 AM

ah... blame it on satan. one of god's many wonderful creations

This post has been edited by hotjake: Oct 24 2012, 10:59 AM

i don't owned the camera business, that's why I should stop it. Now onwards all online selling thread I open will be mine. Owning it always better than working for others.

Hi Jake, that's not correct.

God created Lucifer a Guardian Cherub if I'm not mistaken, one of the High Ranking Angels in the Heavenly realms.

Originally Lucifer was Blameless or Righteous if you may and adorned with with beauty.

I believe Angels, like us humans have free will to choose.

The problem why, lucifer fell is because He became proud and was filled with violence.

God did not create Satan. Lucifer took this upon himself.

I'm interested to view lucifer story, which source should I go?

lol, that is more for us believers because any theological argument should fall back on scriptures. Otherwise it literally becomes havoc and out of focus. Sorry about that, if you felt anything.

Besides, just feel like sharing this with you, knowing about God is really nothing much compared to knowing God personally. That is the real blessing.

I didn't really understand this until I took it to the next level and have an actual relationship with Him.

Christianity is really in essence about life. It's not just faith or words but the reality of God intervening.

Beside myself, I'm sure there are others who can testify that God is with them.

This post has been edited by unknown warrior: Oct 24 2012, 02:23 PM

lol. Bible lah mana lagi?

but you want some good books, there are some in Glads Sound, Salvation or Canaanland.

Mostly the information about the Enemy is inserted in books on Spiritual Warfare.

Just be careful not to be too engrossed about Satan, it's no point really, less it become a type of worship.

Just understand enough about his evil Schemes and devices so that you know how to overcome.


Edit:

See you guise later.

This post has been edited by unknown warrior: Oct 24 2012, 02:29 PM

Alright

Bro, kinda itchy or more curious ah to know about Satan (poking) ... Mostly the references are from Ezekiel 28 ... some Bible scholars do not agreed that this portion of the Scripture refers to Satan's origin ... but I disagree based on books I read

Satan was an angel created by God before He created the earth. The book of Job (38:4-7) tells us that when God laid the measure of the foundation of the earth, the sons of God (the angels) shouted for joy. This proves that God created the angels before He created the earth.

From Ezekiel 28 we see that Satan was not only one of the angels, but the highest archangel, the head of all the angels.

Ezekiel 28 describes Satan's position in the universe before his rebellion and corruption. This whole chapter seems to speak about the king of Tyre. But verse 13 says, "Thou hast been in Eden the garden of God." If we read the context, we can see that this was not the Eden in which Adam was put. This Eden was not on the earth, but in the heavens, on the holy mountain of God.

"Every precious stone was thy covering." He was covered with precious stones. G. H. Pember says that this indicates his dwelling place. His dwelling was of precious stones.

"The service of thy tabrets and of thy pipes was prepared with thee in the day thou wast created" (Heb.). In the ancient times, musical instruments such as tambourines and pipes were for kings (Dan. 3:5; 6:18). This indicates that Satan was a king, holding the highest position in that universe. This was why even the Lord Jesus called him "the ruler of this world" (John 12:31). The Apostle also calls him "the ruler of the authority of the air" (Eph. 2:2). Luke 4:5-6 also confirms this. "And he led Him up and showed Him all the kingdoms of the inhabited earth in a moment of time. And the Devil said to Him, To You I will give all this authority and their glory, because to me it has been delivered, and to whomever I want I give it." Was this a lie? If it was a lie the Lord Jesus surely would have rebuked Satan. Since the Lord did not rebuke him, it must be a fact.

Satan, the Devil, told the Lord that all the kingdoms of the world and all their glory had been delivered to him. Satan also said, "to whomever I want I give it." When did God deliver all of this to Satan? This was definitely something pre-Adamic, before the world of Adam. We can realize that God did appoint Satan the head of that universe, and that God had delivered all created things in the heaven and on the earth into his hand. So he became "the ruler of this world." His position and rank were so high that even "Michael the archangel..did not dare to bring a reviling judgment against him" (Jude 9). Michael is one of the archangels (Dan. 10:13). His daring not to rebuke Satan proves that Satan's rank must be even higher than his. Thus, we can infer that Satan must be the highest archangel.

Verse 14: "Thou art the anointed cherub that covereth." Satan was "the anointed cherub that covereth." This probably means that he covered (cf. Exo. 25:20) the ark of God in the heavens (Rev. 11:19). "And I have set thee so." God did this. God anointed and appointed the archangel to cover His ark. Ezekiel tells us that the cherubim bear God's glory (9:3; 10:18) and that they are very close to God's throne (10:1; 1:26). This shows that Satan, before his rebellion, when he was the anointed cherub covering God's ark, must have been very close to God, bearing God's glory. Ezekiel also tells us that the cherubim are the four living creatures which are of special use to God (10:20). Also the four living creatures in Ezekiel are similar to the four in Revelation (Ezek. 1:10, cf. Rev. 4:7) which took the lead among the creatures in worshipping God. This reveals that today's Satan, God's adversary, originally the anointed cherub, must have been specially appointed by God to be the head among His creatures, bearing His glory and leading them to worship Him. This may indicate that the anointed archangel also had the priesthood. He might have been the high priest in the universal worship of God.

"Thou wast upon the holy mountain of God." This certainly must be in the heavens. "Thou hast walked up and down in the midst of the stones of fire." In Exodus 24:10, 17, Moses, Aaron, and many others saw under God's throne some precious stones with the glory of God like burning fire. That must be the stones of fire. From this we may infer that the anointed cherub was also specially privileged to move in the realm where God's glory was.

Beside Ezekiel 28, Isaiah 14:12 also helps us to see Satan's origin. It tells us that Satan was the "Daystar [for Lucifer according to Hebrew], son of the morning." Just as the daystar is the leading one among the stars, so Satan must be the head of all the angels. The title "son of the morning" shows that he was there early, in the morning of the universe. Thus, Satan, from the earliest days of the universe, was the head of the angels, bright as the daystar.

Satan's origin was wonderful. He was God's anointed cherub, the one closest to God, holding the highest position in God's creation. He had not only the kingship, but also the priesthood, the very position that we, God's redeemed people, have forever (Rev. 5:9-10; 20:4-6). But he was deprived of his position and offices when he rebelled against God. Now God has chosen us to be His priests and kings, to take over Satan's position and offices, to put him to shame, and to glorify God.

Hope it assist you

Anyway FYI. Satan is very handsome since he is the fallen angle. Since we are Son of Daughter of God, satan is powerless against us.

This post has been edited by OlgaC4: Oct 24 2012, 04:32 PM