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English Clubs Liverpool Football Club - The Kop Talks 2011, Liverpool 3-1 MU- Suarez+Kuyt Combo!

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post Feb 10 2011, 09:47 AM

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Our priority is still left and right wing, we have enough striker at the moment with carrol, suarez, kuyt, ngog, pacheco
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post Feb 10 2011, 09:48 AM

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QUOTE(digilife @ Feb 10 2011, 09:11 AM)
we can play wif 3 2 2 3

3 central defenders
2 wingbacks
2 defensive midfielders
3 strikers
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post Feb 10 2011, 09:51 AM

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QUOTE(digilife @ Feb 10 2011, 09:11 AM)
we can play wif 3 2 2 3

3 central defenders
2 wingbacks
2 defensive midfielders
3 strikers
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No offence but that formation aint gonna work. Just last Sunday Chelsea has shown when u pack your team with strikers you will only end up getting bullied in midfield. Charlie Adam should be the priority, as well as a fast-winger, maybe a left back too...but I don't think we should buy anymore CF during summer (unless Carroll turns out to be a huge flop that is...touchwood!!). And at any rate Ngog is becoming a quite reliable backup..so why waste money on Benzema who is another unproven striker in BPL?
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QUOTE(nando @ Feb 9 2011, 10:56 PM)
I know KD is flexible but this is an interesting article....

Jonathan Wilson is one of the best columnist on tactics...

http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/blog/2011/...ilson-liverpool
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Good read which reinforces my point that we did not go to Stamford Bridge to park the bus. Those who didn't watch the game would automatically assume we did when they saw 5 defenders on the team sheet. Watch the game however and you'll note that we did attack in numbers. It's just the players had to start buidling from a deeper position than usual. When we did go forward, we often threw caution to the wind. Instead of having players line up behind the ball like Houllier and Rafa used to, Dalglish instructed the players to make forward runs, leaving us exposed to counterattacks.

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Liverpool's outlook against Chelsea was cautious, but it was not that negative.

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post Feb 10 2011, 10:27 AM

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QUOTE(leftist @ Feb 10 2011, 10:27 AM)
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I like the inscriptions. Death is permanent but its timing is not... something along those lines. Curious to see Skrtel's and Mereiles' artwork.
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post Feb 10 2011, 10:49 AM

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We also played 5 defenders against Stoke at home, if I'm not mistaken. KD's belief is the defence must be rock solid. Remember how leaky our defence has been this season?

With 3 in the centre, the fullbacks can support the attack according to their capabilities. It's enough to play with one recognized forward when we have 4 or 5 proven scorers - Gerrard, Meireles, Maxi, Kuyt ..

call them whatever!
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post Feb 10 2011, 10:53 AM

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our defense is more solid since KD took over. we are playing with 3 CB and it is good..
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post Feb 10 2011, 11:16 AM

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Well not surprising really because SC is good in defensive that's why KD bring SC in.
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QUOTE(leftist @ Feb 10 2011, 10:27 AM)
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no offense, his got his tattoo shop..
same with Arshavin, fashion designer. doh.gif
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post Feb 10 2011, 12:04 PM

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We are scoring goals from everywhere since that certain someone left the club. But suddenly i do miss stevie G scoring goals like he used too, but the club is above any players, so i don't care who scores, as long its for the team.

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Denmark prodigy Christian Eriksen leaves England and Arsenal midfielder Jack Wilshere in the shade

England came with eyes on Jack Wilshere but, in Copenhagen, it was a Dane, once again, who was the young Prince: Christian Eriksen. Little wonder Liverpool and AC Milan are monitoring him closely.
Wilshere, we were told, was to play in the Claude Makélélé role but that was quickly eschewed. Wilshere played in the Wilshere role, trying to shape the game with quick darts forward and also setting the tempo from deep.

He played well. His problem was that Eriksen played better and, time and again, stole in behind Wilshere who twisted his neck from side to side to see where his rival had gone.

It was never in more evidence than in the opening minutes. Wilshere was caught with Eriksen 10 yards beyond his left shoulder and the ball was threaded through. The Dane ran on and it was only because Nicklas Bendtner had sprinted too early that he was offside when the ball was then played through to him.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/...land-Henry.html


hmmm...only 18 but already better than wilshere..will be great if we can grab him from ajax again biggrin.gif



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It must have been pure Agger-ny! Liverpool defender will never walk alone

Yes, it must have hurt. But Daniel Agger probably didn't mind.

The Liverpool and Denmark centre back, who scored the opening goal on Wednesday night, showed off his huge tattoo which depicts a Viking graveyard in the middle of his back.

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He also has a Latin proverb 'Mors Certa, Hora Incerta' across the top of his back, meaning 'Death is certain, its hour is not' and inscriptions on his ankles along the lines of 'Pain is temporary, victory is forever'.

He is not alone in loving tattoos in the Anfield dressing room with team-mates Martin Skrtel and Raul Meireles sporting their own artwork.

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QUOTE(nando @ Feb 9 2011, 11:28 PM)
oh, that was just a classic quote from the golden days of Liverpool in the 70's 80s.  It simply described the passing game Liverpool is famous for.  To remind every players to pass the ball properly to a mate (as opposed to a hoof or speculative long ball) and then immediately run to a position ready to receive the next pass (very much like the way Xavi and Iniesta is doing it now eh?).  that is why Liverpool was often regarded at the most `continental' team in Britain.  One forummer even have a signature where a football personnel said that its easy to know which is Liverpool during the days of black & white tv.  They are usually the team with the ball.
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ok. i get the idea now. yeah. u're right. Iniesta and Xavi is the perfect example.

QUOTE(digilife @ Feb 10 2011, 09:05 AM)
well, if Benz is surplus to RM, and if we hav the cash, its not a bad idea to buy this youngster and turn him into a feared shooter b4 reselling it to another "chelsea"  anyway SAF ady hav an eye for him b4 his move to RM.....
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Benzema still at RM so he still available for anyone to sign, with the right money of course.

QUOTE(RedSiglap56 @ Feb 10 2011, 09:46 AM)
Every formation has its merits ... on paper; every tactic has its strong points ... again on paper.  I think formations and tactics are secondary to how the players apply themselves on the field.

Remember how Kuyt remarked that the way Liverpool is playing now is like the Dutch "total football". I believe it's because every player is moving and running now. Remember those days (no need to mention under who) when a winger/fullback got behind the opposition's defence and crossed .. only to find that there was hardly any red shirt in the box to meet the cross. The players were almost static.. keeping the formation, keeping the shape ...!

Now, under KD's old bootroom philosophy, there's plenty of off-the-ball running and players are constantly moving.  This results in the opposition not knowing where our attack is going to switch to. If we have many players who can score, this will certainly cause panic as our opponents have to watch out for all these players who are running towards their goal!

Flashback to our goal against Chelsea with Meireles (whose strength is in his tireless running and willingness to shoot) running behind Kuyt and you can imagine what can happen when we play like this every time.

Keeping in motion and running up and down is sheer hard work.  That is precisely why KD said the players have to work hard.

Wigan cannot be underestimated. Nobody should be underestimated - that is also another old bootroom principle - we should field the best line-up possible and play the best possible. If the opponent turns out to be in good form, then at least we can grind out a hard-fought win.  If our opponents are in bad shape, then we should just be professional and clobber them!

This is one thing that KD still has to work on : to get the players to push on for as many goals as possible even after we have taken the lead..

Looking forward to see these qualities displayed by our players and hence, another good performance ..
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one thing that good about pass and move is u can easily distrupt opposition coordination. but there's a risk of fatigue. Yes, if can, every team need to field in their best team every week but squad rotation is needed too in order to give an extra break and chances to other players.



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I know we should be looking forward to the next game against Wigan. But I find this article below from the us soccernet site to be very funny indeed:


Liverpool 1, Team Torres 0

Well, so much for the conventional wisdom that Kenny Dalglish had been out of soccer too long to understand the modern game. Either the game hasn't changed all that much in the 13 years since he last managed in the Prem or Liverpool's talent was better than anyone realized under Roy Hodgson. What a brilliant psychological gambit by Dalglish not to throw Luis Suarez into the deep end of Stamford Bridge after the Uruguayan scored in his debut midweek. Astonishingly, the Reds didn't need him or their $55 million injured striker Andy Carroll to beat Team Torres on Sunday.

History was made at the Bridge, as Liverpool secured its second league double over Chelsea, the only club to have managed the trick during the Roman Abramovich era. Dalglish basically employed the same bunch of players (with the notable exception of Fernando Torres) who had stifled the Blues 2-0 at Anfield in Uncle Roy's one memorable moment in charge. The difference, of course, is that when Dalglish wins with this collection of workhorses and international stragglers, it's the result of motivation, confidence and tactics -- not sheer dumb luck. With its fourth consecutive win of the King Kenny 2.0 era, Liverpool is now in sixth place, only six points behind Chelsea and those two beautiful words, "Champions League," are no longer spoken by just deluded Reds supporters.

This overly hyped meeting was always going to be about the turncoat Spaniard, especially after his midweek references to "going to a big club" and "kissing the badge." It looked friendly enough in the pregame handshakes, but clearly Liverpool had something else in mind for Fernando to kiss.

It was, truth be told, a dull, ragged affair. After Saturday's pyrotechnics, which included 41 goals scored around the league, the tedium of the match made for long stretches when the traveling supporters drowned out the home congregants, booing Torres' every touch and willing the likes of Jamie Carragher, back from injury, into a heroic performance at the back.

Carlo Ancelotti made it easy on Liverpool's three center backs by returning to the dreaded diamond formation with little boy lost Nicolas Anelka at the tip. Frank Lampard was nowhere to be found as the presence of Steven Gerrard must have had the poor man thinking he was wearing his England shirt. Chelsea lacked width, imagination and even a hint of danger, and surely Roman expected a greater return on his $80 million investment -- perhaps something more than a single shot on target.

On balance, Liverpool deserved to take home the three points. Maxi Rodriguez missed a goal so open that Dalglish may take away his Argentine passport and make him Welsh. But Raul Meireles continued his run of being the best player on the field during Liverpool's resurgence. On the sole goal of the match, it was his relentless effort and run that allowed him to latch onto Gerrard's vicious cross as Petr Cech could only scramble across his goal mouth.

Ironically, Liverpool showed the very grit and character that Torres complained was lacking as he thrust himself out the Kop front door. Such was the speed at which he racked up goals at Anfield that there's little doubt Fernando will eventually find his scoring tough -- and ability to smile. But on Sunday, I'm afraid he was dead on arrival.

http://espn.go.com/sports/soccer/news/_/id...prang-back-life

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OMG!!! new thread already n im so late....
bring it on wigan....oh yeah!!!
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QUOTE(aiyish @ Feb 10 2011, 12:04 PM)
We are scoring goals from everywhere since that certain someone left the club. But suddenly i do miss stevie G scoring goals like he used too, but the club is above any players, so i don't care who scores, as long its for the team.
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Interesting you should post this. Reminds me of a conversation I had with a friend some time back. Whilst its nice to see your team score spectacular goals, it is at the some time discerning that we had to rely on the spectacular to win games. I'm sure goals like Riise's freekick against the mancs, Gerrard's against Olympiacos/West Ham or Xabi's against Luton provide good talking points but I'd much rather we work out how to score simple ones, because this means the team played well, not the individual. Its good to know we can score 30 yard screamers but its more important to know that we can create opportunities for simple tap-ins. Look at how the team attacks now. Often you see players attacking in triangles, or 3's, passing the ball about and running into space. When you have players playing ahead of the one in possession, you give him options to move the ball forward. Not long ago, we struggled to get past average sides because they had more men behind the ball, and we were afraid to over commit men forward, hence our forward players were always outnumbered. Quite often we played the ball up to their penalty box and either lost possession or had to pass it back to a deeper player coming from midfield to belt it towards goal. Nowadays, we play the ball into the opposition box, to feet more often.

I agree. I don't care so much for spectacular goals anymore. I prefer scoring goals as a result of good team work.

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