Expectations of longer working hours has to go hand in hand with renumeration while always upholding the basic principles of employee welfare. No matter how much you pay, it can never compensate for the overall wellbeing of the employee. Health issues and mental distress from working overly long hours can never have a price on it.

Hvae you been to the Charles D-Gaulle airport in Paris? Sharp 5-5.30pm 95% of all outlets will shut down despite it being an international airport and main gateway for France. Ever lived in Brisbane? After 6pm the city becomes like a ghost town with only a few marts or pubs open.

Why do they do it? Because they realise that quality of life and time spent with family are far more valuable than the money you bring in at the end of the month. If only 1 or 2 of them thought this way, would the change have affected the entire city/country? Surely not. The change came about when a MAJORITY of them started lobbying for it and thats what we need to do.

We made history in the 2008 general elections. Why? because we went against the 'norm'. So right and wrong DOES matter. Stop accepting something wrong because it was the norm.

Work with that same mentality and hopefully in years to come our children can possibly have a better quality of life than what we are having now.

This post has been edited by cybermaster98: Apr 15 2011, 08:22 AM

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This post has been edited by cybermaster98: Apr 15 2011, 08:21 AM

Guys, know your own rights, that's what cybermaster98 trying to say.

If you are willing to work more than 48 hours and neglect your own health and time in exchange for money less than MYR1500, feel free to do so.

I care about life and my family more.

Exactly my point!

Agreed old boy.

good quality of life means more smiles at work!

Anyone know what is the maximum working days for a month?

Lets say March 2012, we had 31 days, so basically company can take our basic pay divide 31 to calculate how much they need to pay if resign on 15th March?

RM1500 / 31 = RM48.38 / day

RM48.38 x 15 = RM725.70 (Last payment)

This post has been edited by Moogle Stiltzkin: Jul 15 2017, 08:43 AM

This is the kind of mentality that has caused the labor laws and employee benefits in this country to go down the drain. This is why countries like Indonesia have much stronger and fool proof labor laws because the moment any company (whether foreign or local) goes against them, employees are up in arms defending their rights.

Replying to the above statement , I fully agree. I have seen in the foreign cooperation , our local boys stoop down to polish their boss . The foreign boss would not have that kind mentality in their homeland.

Our local boys can multitask , bring back work to their home, out beat each other or back stab in the name of efficiency , pretend to impress the boss , re term the old practices in the new jargon learnt from the textbooks hoping it is their original idea , speaking and maintaining high profile at meetings, repeating and repeating what has been said .

guys regarding the little debate between wacky and cyber, i can see the difference in mentality. one has set a standard higher and will achieve more in life where another has chose to follow the herd and fight for survival(slavery in malaysia) in a small firm LOL.

Why malaysians sacrifice health,body,beauty for a mere salary is because they have no choice, and choice is an option. its not easy but there is always a choice. set a standard for urself and never give in to slavery, such as OTing without pay, signing up for a job just to do the job of 3 ppl etc etc. bah piss me off to see my colleagues slaving for my boss. without pay, become hard labour(no pay) when we are professionals. everyday work till 8pm. Jokers dont know their rights and their value.

and sorry for bumping a month old topic

Hi all,

I am looking for some legal advices regarding Malaysian Labor Law regarding overtime and working during the weekends! Please help if you have any additional information. Thanks!

So as for the 8 hours per day is it including break?

if you really have 'achieved' that many things as you claimed, why are you then, bounded by the so call working hours ? As you said, it's the result that matters, not your working hours.

Wow....this is what happened to me currently. Company issued a memo implementing similar hours like above. And I am also wondering if this is a violation of Malaysian labor laws. I know for sure this is a breach of my contract hours. Don't get me wrong, I work late too to get things done but to have us simply sit there for 6 days 10 hours/day thinking that equals productivity is really stupid....

Sadly, when I talked to some of my colleagues, they like accepted it. Feel like want to fight it but don't really know what to do besides jumping ship. I could complain to HR but it feels like it's not going to help. Being an employee in this country really suck....

Hi. I am new to this forum. Some heated exchanges but all are very good points. I have worked for companies of various sizes from 30 people to 50,000 (my current company and I am a Sr. Director). Regardless of the company policies, I have always worked at least 60-100 hours a week and frequently voluntarily given up my paid vacation. This is not to brag about my hard work but want to share why I am able to do that for the past 25 years. Two main reasons: (1) I completely enjoys my work so going to work is like playing with my hobby. (2) My accomplishments were rewarded; ie. promotions, higher salary, stock options, bonus, etc.

There is no free lunch. You have to be willing to put in to get something out of it and to make your skill set attractive to many employers. When you work hard or long hours, you have more chances of gaining more knowledge and experiences than those who works shorter hours and not dedicated. This is just logic.

I believe that there is NO bad career. A garbage collector or a supermarket sales person is as valuable and has the same growth opportunity as a senior executive. The key is your mentality. For example, if I am a garbage collector, I would pay attentions to anything that will help my employer in reducing operation costs or keeping the customers happy; eg. avoid traffic hours to save gasoline and also allow me to get my job done faster (so I can work shorter hours or do more within the work hours). The main point is to do something you really like and don't worry about the job title. Dedicate yourself to your job and gain as much experiences as you can each day; like deposit cash into your brain. This will make you a strong and valuable employee. Then, you have more ammunition to make demand, and easily jump to another company if your demand is rejected.

I live across from Apple Computer HQ and I can see people still working at 12 mid-night! I have many friends working for Google and Facebook. They love their jobs even when the companies were small and they made 50% - 75% of what other established companies would pay. Now, they are all multi-millionaires and they are only in their thirties. This is the main reasons why startups in US especially Silicon Valley are so successful.

Hope this helps.

is this thread still on i also got a question to ask, my salary is more than RM1500 but my company require me to work from 8.45 am to 3PM and 5.30 PM to the next day 8.44 AM for a week. but they do give me extra RM100 allowance for this job, can a company do that?

Depends on what your contract stipulates regarding your working hours.

my contract stated 8.45 to 5.30 PM and they forced us to work extra hours.

Just so I understand:

Normal contract working hours: 8.45am to 5.30pm
Current working hours: 8.45am to 3.00pm, break 2.5hrs and then continue from 5.30pm to 8.45am?

Is this correct? Something doesn't sound right.

yes correct meaning we need to work like 24 hour non stop.

That's ridiculous. Clearly against labor law.