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post Feb 9 2011, 04:01 PM, updated 9y ago

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Can somebody tell me which website to refer with regards to the maximum working hours per week for the corporate private sector?
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post Feb 9 2011, 04:58 PM

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QUOTE(DarkAeon @ Feb 9 2011, 04:07 PM)
Here's what the Employment Act says:

60A. (1) Except as hereinafter provided, an employee shall not be
required under his contract of service to work—
(a) more than five consecutive hours without a period of
leisure of not less than thirty minutes duration;
(b) more than eight hours in one day;
© in excess of a spread over period of ten hours in one day;
(d) more than forty-eight hours in one week:

For the whole act, read here refer to 'Hours of work'
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Yes but most companies have this clause written into the contracts:

'you might be required to work additional hours as and when is neccessary and your salary is deemed to have included this'

Is this statement/ clause in accordance with labor laws?
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post Feb 9 2011, 05:01 PM

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QUOTE(WaCKy-Angel @ Feb 9 2011, 04:57 PM)
Whats the point?
You want to argue with your company you dont want do OT ?

Seriously if u dont want to work, many others are waiting for your position..and dont mind getting lower pay then u..

Your company can let u go anytime and find a replacement.
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This is the kind of mentality that has caused the labor laws and employee benefits in this country to go down the drain. This is why countries like Indonesia have much stronger and fool proof labor laws because the moment any company (whether foreign or local) goes against them, employees are up in arms defending their rights.
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post Feb 10 2011, 08:05 AM

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QUOTE(furryfluffy @ Feb 9 2011, 05:09 PM)
Very subjective clause.

"As & When Necessary" does not mean all the time. I believe as long as you do not exceed 48 hrs (6 x 8hrs) per week it is still within the employment act but most employees do get some sort of compensation for the extra effort in performance bonus etc. Else, look else where for better working environment.
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The normal working hours will already take you to 48 hrs per week. So any addional work will take u past the 48 hr mark. My company has just implemented a 7.30am-7pm (Mon-Sat) working regime without any additional compensation. Mind you im in the management bracket in an international company.

Does this new ruling contradict Malaysian Labor Laws?
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post Feb 10 2011, 10:12 AM

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QUOTE(Joey Christensen @ Feb 10 2011, 09:53 AM)
What are the hours of work under the law?

All employment issues are matters of law. Like many codes of employment law, Malaysian law contains such features as the eight-hour day and 40-hour week, averaged over three weeks to include overtime. The average work week (averaged over three weeks) cannot exceed 48 hours, and never more than 10 hours a day on average. No one can be required to work more than 12 hours in a day.

Source: Malaysian Labor Law Act

An employee shall not be required under his contract of service to work -

1. more than 5 consecutive hours without a period of leisure of not less than 30 minutes' duration.
2. more than 8 hours in one day.
3. in excess of a spread over a period of 10 hours in one day.
4. more than 48 hours in one week with certain provisos.

Source: PNMB-LawNet

Regards, Joey

p.s: Welcome to Malaysia a.k.a Bolehland
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Can you provide direct web links?
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post Feb 10 2011, 10:54 AM

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QUOTE(Joey Christensen @ Feb 10 2011, 10:52 AM)
The excerpt which I had posted is good enough for your understanding...Anyway, here's the links:

1. http://www.ehow.com/about_6643653_malaysia...or-law-act.html
2. http://www.lawnet.com.my/lawnetpublic/Lega...69/Default.aspx

Wait till you see those doctors doing their housemanships...

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Yes im well aware of the life of housemen's.
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post Feb 10 2011, 04:15 PM

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QUOTE(WaCKy-Angel @ Feb 10 2011, 04:11 PM)
Thats the fact and u have to accept it.

Try to find your colleague arm and defend your rights, i'd bet they will treat u like a wacko.
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Accept something thats wrong? Words of a loser i see.

And no the only wachos are those who refuse to do anything choosing instead to go with the flow while complaining to kingdom come.
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post Feb 11 2011, 09:16 AM

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QUOTE(WaCKy-Angel @ Feb 11 2011, 08:50 AM)
Good luck living in your own world
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Trust me, i have achieved things which ppl like you can only dream of achieving. U know why? Cuz i dared to go against the norm and refused to accept being shortchanged. It has worked before and it will work again. Sadly its ppl like you who has turned this country into what it is today. So good luck living in your world as that world is slowly but surely coming to an end.

Sorry to sound harsh but it really pisses me off to hear of ppl who refuse to stand up for their own rights and make a change for the better.
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QUOTE(bmbk @ Feb 11 2011, 01:48 PM)
is the 48 hours including lunch hour ? 1 hour ?
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No its not inclusive.
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post Apr 14 2011, 05:22 PM

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QUOTE(WaCKy-Angel @ Feb 11 2011, 09:19 AM)
LOL keyboard warrior you win  thumbup.gif  thumbup.gif  thumbup.gif


Added on February 11, 2011, 9:23 amOh btw, i checked your posting time and its all between 8am-6pm.

So you are using your working hours to surfing ey??
And u dare to complain about unfair working hours?
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If you have worked long enuf in a professional multinational environment, u would know that the hours put in is not as important as the result at the end of the day. Its a typical Asian mentality to calculate hours worked as justification for effort and result. Long working hours has a detrimental impact on the overall well-being of the employee.

You should never be a slave to your job and neither should work become anything more than earning a salary at the end of the day.

This post has been edited by cybermaster98: Apr 14 2011, 05:29 PM
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post Apr 14 2011, 05:28 PM

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QUOTE(asc2 @ Apr 14 2011, 05:14 PM)
I have to agree with WaCKy-Angel that there are certain realities that you have to accept, otherwise you'll be at the bottom of the pack
However, i also think that do not accept things as is
I'd propose think of ways to achieve your goals without jeopardizing your own career
Will making a stand against your employer or complaining to gov depart really help you achieve your goals ?
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I dont agree with Wacky-Angel and im far above the bottom of the pack. So i do not think that standing up for your employee rights will result in you being at the bottom of the pack. If it does, then i guess the problem lies with the individual rather than the system.

And just an update to all of you, i did raise this issue and after about a month, the working hours have been scaled back to 8-5.30pm. Plus all employees now get 2 compulsory Saturdays off a month.

Nothing is impossible if you put your heart and mind to it. Accepting lopsided and unfair 'realities' are the reason why Malaysia has such poor labor laws. So as along as we continue to maintain that mentality, you will continue to be trampled on by your employer.
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post Apr 15 2011, 08:19 AM

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QUOTE(asc2 @ Apr 14 2011, 05:29 PM)
Interesting because if YOU have worked long enough, you'd know that if you're in an environment that 'expects' you to work long hours then you either adapt or start packing

At the end of the day, it does not matter what is right or what is wrong, just the impact from your actions
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Expectations of longer working hours has to go hand in hand with renumeration while always upholding the basic principles of employee welfare. No matter how much you pay, it can never compensate for the overall wellbeing of the employee. Health issues and mental distress from working overly long hours can never have a price on it.

Hvae you been to the Charles D-Gaulle airport in Paris? Sharp 5-5.30pm 95% of all outlets will shut down despite it being an international airport and main gateway for France. Ever lived in Brisbane? After 6pm the city becomes like a ghost town with only a few marts or pubs open.

Why do they do it? Because they realise that quality of life and time spent with family are far more valuable than the money you bring in at the end of the month. If only 1 or 2 of them thought this way, would the change have affected the entire city/country? Surely not. The change came about when a MAJORITY of them started lobbying for it and thats what we need to do.

We made history in the 2008 general elections. Why? because we went against the 'norm'. So right and wrong DOES matter. Stop accepting something wrong because it was the norm.

Work with that same mentality and hopefully in years to come our children can possibly have a better quality of life than what we are having now.

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post Apr 15 2011, 08:21 AM

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post Apr 15 2011, 11:40 AM

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QUOTE(aKiSuSu @ Apr 15 2011, 11:38 AM)
Guys, know your own rights, that's what cybermaster98 trying to say.

If you are willing to work more than 48 hours and neglect your own health and time in exchange for money less than MYR1500, feel free to do so.

I care about life and my family more.
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Exactly my point!
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QUOTE(perigi @ Mar 13 2017, 10:44 AM)
is this thread still on i also got a question to ask, my salary is more than RM1500 but my company require me to work from 8.45 am to 3PM and 5.30 PM to the next day 8.44 AM  for a week. but they do give me extra RM100 allowance for this job, can a company do that?
Depends on what your contract stipulates regarding your working hours.
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QUOTE(perigi @ Mar 13 2017, 10:59 AM)
my contract stated 8.45 to 5.30 PM and they forced us to work extra hours.  rclxub.gif
Just so I understand:

Normal contract working hours: 8.45am to 5.30pm
Current working hours: 8.45am to 3.00pm, break 2.5hrs and then continue from 5.30pm to 8.45am?

Is this correct? Something doesn't sound right.
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QUOTE(perigi @ Mar 13 2017, 11:34 AM)
yes correct meaning we need to work like 24 hour non stop.
That's ridiculous. Clearly against labor law.

 

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