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 Nokia N8 - V24 - [The King of Camera Phones], N8 For JOY during valentine!!! ^____^

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nicholasbeh
post Feb 12 2011, 01:18 AM

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ok.do ur maths,failure software+failure hardware=?
negative+negative=?
POSITIVE LA!:p
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post Feb 12 2011, 01:18 AM

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QUOTE(nicholasbeh @ Feb 12 2011, 01:11 AM)
they nonstop promise us this and that.symbian 4?dual core symbian,50+ updates,true zoom,N9 ship at year 2010,E7 ship at december of 2010,then delay and delay....N8 ship at third season of 2010...
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I selected Other. I’m at 11 on the scale.
I still can’t get my head around it. Symbian^3 phones outsold WP7 by a huge margin without a huge marketing campaign. Symbian has 30%+ market share compared to 1.5% for WP7. Ovi store downloads have been increasing steadily.

I still can’t see a rationale. Nokia is hugely profitable, they’re not close to bankruptcy. How could they throw everything away (Symbian, Meego, Ovi services) for a platform that has no traction and is functionally inferior to their current OS?
I just don’t get it
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i can't understand it too. the only explanation i can think of is Elop is truly a Microsoft trojan horse.
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post Feb 12 2011, 01:18 AM

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Perhaps WP7 is the one that needs Nokia. Not the other way around. Nokia just got hoodwinked.
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QUOTE(nicholasbeh @ Feb 12 2011, 01:11 AM)
they nonstop promise us this and that.symbian 4?dual core symbian,50+ updates,true zoom,N9 ship at year 2010,E7 ship at december of 2010,then delay and delay....N8 ship at third season of 2010...
quote from somewhere.
I selected Other. I’m at 11 on the scale.
I still can’t get my head around it. Symbian^3 phones outsold WP7 by a huge margin without a huge marketing campaign. Symbian has 30%+ market share compared to 1.5% for WP7. Ovi store downloads have been increasing steadily.

I still can’t see a rationale. Nokia is hugely profitable, they’re not close to bankruptcy. How could they throw everything away (Symbian, Meego, Ovi services) for a platform that has no traction and is functionally inferior to their current OS?
I just don’t get it
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Despite the news, no one knows for sure if Nokia is buying time to develop a brand new OS from scratch or just simply wanna cut cost by having someone else develop the software for them. What has been a problem for Nokia since the last few years was the ability to attract software developers. Perhaps they are hoping that MS dominance in PC would help them gather the force to push more apps/games out. A win win situation for both perhaps?
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QUOTE(Eoma @ Feb 12 2011, 01:18 AM)
Perhaps WP7 is the one that needs Nokia. Not the other way around. Nokia just got hoodwinked.
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Then Microsoft must be laughing in their office thinking how easy tat was.
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QUOTE(nicholasbeh @ Feb 12 2011, 01:11 AM)
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I totally agree with you on their over stating promises. Well, sometimes the change of management can be a little cruel. (Wolrd-of-Business...lol) However, I like the fact that Symbian is still one of the market leader even though you know other OS-es are crazily involving many minds of the young ones.

Let's see what's Nokia next step... It's a little disoriented of me to see such move but I'm also trying very hard to look at the brighter side. Fingers cross??

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QUOTE(jbb_lkh @ Feb 12 2011, 01:21 AM)
I totally agree with you on their over stating promises. Well, sometimes the change of management can be a little cruel. (Wolrd-of-Business...lol) However, I like the fact that Symbian is still one of the market leader even though you know other OS-es are crazily involving many minds of the young ones.

Let's see what's Nokia next step... It's a little disoriented of me to see such move but I'm also trying very hard to look at the brighter side. Fingers cross??
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hope there's even existence of a bright side.
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QUOTE(botakbin @ Feb 12 2011, 01:24 AM)
hope there's even existence of a bright side.
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The truth, I'm still in the dark. Hahaha!!

That over promising PR1.1 is still not in existence to me yet! Hahahaha!!
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post Feb 12 2011, 01:30 AM

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木马屠城记。Mr Elop,good job
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nokia tactic: drop / dissapoint higher, then hope/ happyness higher when new phone release? hmm.gif laugh.gif
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QUOTE(nicholasbeh @ Feb 12 2011, 01:30 AM)
木马屠城记。Mr Elop,good job
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post Feb 12 2011, 01:33 AM

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isnt it obvious?木马屠城记
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post Feb 12 2011, 01:34 AM

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Elop clarified that MeeGo will ship this year but "not as part of another broad smarpthone platform strategy, but as an opportunity to learn." Something that sounds very similar to position Nokia took with its so-called "experimental" Maemo-based N900 last year. After the first (and apparently, only) MeeGo device ships this year, the MeeGo team will then "change their focus into an exploration of future platforms, future devices, future user experiences." Trying to determine the "next disruption" in smartphones.

Responding to "hope for a broad MeeGo-based ecosystem," Elop said that Nokia simply wasn't moving fast enough to effectively win and compete against Apple and Google. Windows Phone makes it a "three-horse race," something that Elop says is pleasing to the carriers he's been speaking with.
With this, who will buy N900 replacement?
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QUOTE(andrekua @ Feb 12 2011, 01:21 AM)
Despite the news, no one knows for sure if Nokia is buying time to develop a brand new OS from scratch or just simply wanna cut cost by having someone else develop the software for them. What has been a problem for Nokia since the last few years was the ability to attract software developers. Perhaps they are hoping that MS dominance in PC would help them gather the force to push more apps/games out. A win win situation for both perhaps?
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I was thinking about it too. Win-win... However, they kinda need a little consistency. Too many OS will kind wreck their customer based but for the long term, it kinda lure them in due to variety of selections. Win-Win for all parties actually...


QUOTE(Agito666 @ Feb 12 2011, 01:30 AM)
nokia tactic: drop / dissapoint higher, then hope/ happyness higher when new phone release? hmm.gif laugh.gif
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all 50% - 50% to me... lol!!
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post Feb 12 2011, 01:45 AM

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A positive spin on this fiasco

N8 Geek

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post Feb 12 2011, 01:50 AM

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QUOTE(luckyhillkop @ Feb 12 2011, 01:45 AM)
A positive spin on this fiasco

N8 Geek
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remember Ne0z siggy?dun expect too much so wont disappoint much...haha.nokia ar nokia...ur word like sh*t,never keep ur promise.
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QUOTE(luckyhillkop @ Feb 12 2011, 01:45 AM)
A positive spin on this fiasco

N8 Geek
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Doubtful but still searching the light at the end of the tunnel for Symbian in Nokia's tiny little hole.
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post Feb 12 2011, 01:57 AM

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QUOTE(nicholasbeh @ Feb 12 2011, 01:50 AM)
remember Ne0z siggy?dun expect too much so wont disappoint much...haha.nokia ar nokia...ur word like sh*t,never keep ur promise.
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it doesnt make sense does it? spending lots of money developing symbian3, promo, publicity, promising symbian4, and now suddenly bending over to be bummed by microsoft and wasting all those resources spent on symbian. Elop is seriously retarded.


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QUOTE(jbb_lkh @ Feb 12 2011, 01:56 AM)
Doubtful but still searching the light at the end of the tunnel for Symbian in Nokia's tiny little hole.
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yeah nokia stinking tiny lil hole..

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post Feb 12 2011, 02:12 AM

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QUOTE(luckyhillkop @ Feb 12 2011, 01:57 AM)
it doesnt make sense does it? spending lots of money developing symbian3, promo, publicity, promising symbian4, and now suddenly bending over to be bummed by microsoft and wasting all those resources spent on symbian. Elop is seriously retarded.


Added on February 12, 2011, 1:58 am
yeah nokia stinking tiny lil hole..
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im enuf....it doesnt make sense at all.
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QUOTE(jbb_lkh @ Feb 12 2011, 01:25 AM)
The truth, I'm still in the dark. Hahaha!!

That over promising PR1.1 is still not in existence to me yet! Hahahaha!!
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me too~~~DA** u bill gates!! mad.gif

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