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post Jan 14 2013, 03:12 PM

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QUOTE(Xcaliber @ Jan 14 2013, 01:38 PM)
i need comfort.. long distance driving my inspira..

SSCUS ?
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if you want comfort, stick with stock.

semi/full bucket seats are mainly for performance, where the side bucket encloses the driver so upon high g levels during cornering, you won't get thrown all the way to the door's side panels (yeah i've experienced it myself, that was when i put down my foot for my semi bucket seats)

i'm currently using brand new SSCUS E8 pair for my 14 years old iswara. another reason to change aside from cornering woes is that my seats are so old refoaming/refurbishing isn't cheap anyways, might as well get something that fits my aggressive driving more.

costs around rm1.1-1.3k for a pair of E8.

comfort wise, ive driven over 4-5 hours in these seats, very comfy, however compared to previous stock seats, these will get a little bit hot around the lower back/butt side after 2-3 hours smile.gif
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post Jan 14 2013, 05:00 PM

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thanks.. coz i am looking at SSCUS EURO PU... nice looking .. but i dun no about comfort coz .. i drive long distance

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post Jan 14 2013, 05:05 PM

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thanks.. coz i am looking at SSCUS EURO PU... nice looking .. but i dun no about comfort coz .. i drive long distance

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post Jan 14 2013, 05:47 PM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Jan 14 2013, 03:12 PM)
if you want comfort, stick with stock.
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totally disagree... alot of stock seats pretty much sucks.. and buckets have good proper comfort especially when it comes to lumbar support....


take my wife for example... she has back pains... and with the stock kelisa seats, she would get pains after about 1 or 2 hours. after i changed to SSCUS NSI she couldnt stop complimenting those seats on how nice and comfortable they are. sitting long distance she barely got any pains at all... and this is with stiff adjustable suspension.

i even asked her to compare the NSI with my father's ex- Merc SLK.. n she said she liked the NSI better (minus the fact that the merc had leather la)

same case with my current EG6....stock EG6 seats are pretty good though i hated them... even my butt would get aches during long distance.. but once fitted with the EK9 recaros... long distance is no issue... even my wife absolutely loves the recaros... she even emphasized on how comfortable her back feels due to the lumbar support..the recaros are her absolute favourite (even more than the SR4 fitted in DC5s)...

and this EG6 case is with even stiffer adjustable suspension...
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post Jan 14 2013, 06:22 PM

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QUOTE(mADmAN @ Jan 14 2013, 05:47 PM)
totally disagree... alot of stock seats pretty much sucks.. and buckets have good proper comfort especially when it comes to lumbar support....
take my wife for example... she has back pains... and with the stock kelisa seats, she would get pains after about 1 or 2 hours. after i changed to SSCUS NSI she couldnt stop complimenting those seats on how nice and comfortable they are. sitting long distance she barely got any pains at all... and this is with stiff adjustable suspension.

i even asked her to compare the NSI with my father's ex- Merc SLK.. n she said she liked the NSI better (minus the fact that the merc had leather la)

same case with my current EG6....stock EG6 seats are pretty good though i hated them... even my butt would get aches during long distance.. but once fitted with the EK9 recaros... long distance is no issue... even my wife absolutely loves the recaros... she even emphasized on how comfortable her back feels due to the lumbar support..the recaros are her absolute favourite (even more than the SR4 fitted in DC5s)...

and this EG6 case is with even stiffer adjustable suspension...
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most (if not all, at least from my experience ) of the modern cars stock seats felt pretty comfy for me. definitely don't have heat issues after long hours and they have pretty good lumbar/lower back support as well.

so it is pretty subjective what kinda seats we're comparing here.
take the latest ford focus seats for example, the way they are designed they come PRETTY CLOSE to being a semi bucket seat as it hugs the occupant quite tightly.

granted, if you back issues (eg: your wife that you mentioned), perhaps better/stiffer support over the lower back/lumbar is highly preferred. that isn't the case for everyone obviously.
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post Jan 14 2013, 06:23 PM

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QUOTE(Xcaliber @ Jan 14 2013, 05:00 PM)
thanks.. coz i am looking at SSCUS EURO PU... nice looking .. but i dun no about comfort coz .. i drive long distance
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ask around if you got friends having the same/similar seat and try sitting in it yourself. that would be the best before making the purchase.

for me it is a no brainer as my ass were sticking almost to the window glass during a very very hard corner one day and that was it.
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post Oct 30 2014, 12:55 AM

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Hi. I want to ask all the sifu in semi bucket seats here.

Does or can semi bucket seat protect from whiplash effect? (meaning anti whiplash).
I haven't think about this issue until a friend mentioned it to me.
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post Oct 30 2014, 05:35 AM

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i bought mine few years back. it was replica, no brand. but look nice, 80% red and 20% black. comfortable semi bucket. price = less than 600 1 pair + labor no bracket
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post Oct 30 2014, 10:47 AM

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QUOTE(fix24311 @ Oct 30 2014, 12:55 AM)
Hi. I want to ask all the sifu in semi bucket seats here.

Does or can semi bucket seat protect from whiplash effect? (meaning anti whiplash).
I haven't think about this issue until a friend mentioned it to me.
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No the semi bucket seat doesn't protect you from whiplash alone. There are a lot of other factors.

http://www.spineuniverse.com/conditions/wh...lash-prevention
http://www.whiplashprevention.org/Consumer...es/Default.aspx
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post Oct 30 2014, 11:10 AM

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QUOTE(fix24311 @ Oct 30 2014, 12:55 AM)
Hi. I want to ask all the sifu in semi bucket seats here.

Does or can semi bucket seat protect from whiplash effect? (meaning anti whiplash).
I haven't think about this issue until a friend mentioned it to me.
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it's not related at all...
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post Oct 30 2014, 12:02 PM

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QUOTE(Mavik @ Oct 30 2014, 10:47 AM)
No the semi bucket seat doesn't protect you from whiplash alone. There are a lot of other factors.

http://www.spineuniverse.com/conditions/wh...lash-prevention
http://www.whiplashprevention.org/Consumer...es/Default.aspx
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QUOTE(nm7 @ Oct 30 2014, 11:10 AM)
it's not related at all...
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well, it's because as you've already know by now, Preve stock seat is equipped with anti-whiplash protection. looking at the safety test video, they say that even seatbelts can't protect us from whiplash, but seats equipped with the system can support the neck from whiplash.

i'm actually not very comfortable with my stock seat. but whiplash is a very serious concern hmm.gif
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QUOTE(fix24311 @ Oct 30 2014, 12:02 PM)
well, it's because as you've already know by now, Preve stock seat is equipped with anti-whiplash protection. looking at the safety test video, they say that even seatbelts can't protect us from whiplash, but seats equipped with the system can support the neck from whiplash.

i'm actually not very comfortable with my stock seat. but whiplash is a very serious concern hmm.gif
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Sure, are you willing to fork out $$$ for a good semi bucket seats? A used 2nd hand one such as those from Recaro can go up from RM3k onwards. Brand new ones with side airbags can cost up to RM9k.

Best for you to search for international manufacturer of semi bucket and full bucket seats with the anti-whiplash protection.
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post Oct 30 2014, 12:34 PM

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QUOTE(Mavik @ Oct 30 2014, 12:07 PM)
Sure, are you willing to fork out $$$ for a good semi bucket seats? A used 2nd hand one such as those from Recaro can go up from RM3k onwards. Brand new ones with side airbags can cost up to RM9k.

Best for you to search for international manufacturer of semi bucket and full bucket seats with the anti-whiplash protection.
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i hate full bucket too sweat.gif

just looking for semi bucket. and if u said they do have anti whiplash protection, then i'll go find one. i'm definitely not into replica as the danger it presented.
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post Oct 30 2014, 01:44 PM

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QUOTE(mADmAN @ Jan 14 2013, 05:47 PM)
totally disagree... alot of stock seats pretty much sucks.. and buckets have good proper comfort especially when it comes to lumbar support....
take my wife for example... she has back pains... and with the stock kelisa seats, she would get pains after about 1 or 2 hours. after i changed to SSCUS NSI she couldnt stop complimenting those seats on how nice and comfortable they are. sitting long distance she barely got any pains at all... and this is with stiff adjustable suspension.

i even asked her to compare the NSI with my father's ex- Merc SLK.. n she said she liked the NSI better (minus the fact that the merc had leather la)

same case with my current EG6....stock EG6 seats are pretty good though i hated them... even my butt would get aches during long distance.. but once fitted with the EK9 recaros... long distance is no issue... even my wife absolutely loves the recaros... she even emphasized on how comfortable her back feels due to the lumbar support..the recaros are her absolute favourite (even more than the SR4 fitted in DC5s)...

and this EG6 case is with even stiffer adjustable suspension...
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I heard the 1st Gen CRX are the best stock seats available. I saw a few and the owners doe not want to sell them. sweat.gif
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post Oct 30 2014, 02:53 PM

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QUOTE(fix24311 @ Oct 30 2014, 12:02 PM)
i'm actually not very comfortable with my stock seat. but whiplash is a very serious concern hmm.gif
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you are going to get rear ended on a daily basis?

QUOTE(fix24311 @ Oct 30 2014, 12:02 PM)
well, it's because as you've already know by now, Preve stock seat is equipped with anti-whiplash protection. looking at the safety test video, they say that even seatbelts can't protect us from whiplash, but seats equipped with the system can support the neck from whiplash.
anti-whiplash is just trickery they built into the seat so that the seat moves instead of stay rigid when heavy forces are introduced into the passenger cabin in order to support the passenger itself..

and it can be undone by some people who likes to recline their seats so far back down that they are practically not leaning into the backrest itself let alone having the headrest to support anything when shit happens...

i am not sure if any reputable sports seat makers introduced any seats with whiplash protection??

why would you look at semi buckets for comfort anyways... if those seats are good at anything at all ... is to introduce discomfort into any car not to count harder to get in and out of the car...

are the stock seats not cushy enough or because the fabric is not giving you the comfort you desire... you can go to upholstery shops and see if they can add more foam or even leather the thing if comfort is what you are looking for...
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QUOTE(nm7 @ Oct 30 2014, 02:53 PM)
you are going to get rear ended on a daily basis?
anti-whiplash is just trickery they built into the seat so that the seat moves instead of stay rigid when heavy forces are introduced into the passenger cabin in order to support the passenger itself..

and it can be undone by some people who likes to recline their seats so far back down that they are practically not leaning into the backrest itself let alone having the headrest to support anything when shit happens...

i am not sure if any reputable sports seat makers introduced any seats with whiplash protection??

why would you look at semi buckets for comfort anyways... if those seats are good at anything at all ... is to introduce discomfort into any car not to count harder to get in and out of the car...

are the stock seats not cushy enough or because the fabric is not giving you the comfort you desire... you can go to upholstery shops and see if they can add more foam or even leather the thing if comfort is what you are looking for...
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i've sat on GTi semi bucket, WRX STi semi bucket, and Neo semi bucket. My conclusion semi bucket gives more comfort to me nod.gif

full bucket is full on discomfort sweat.gif
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QUOTE(fix24311 @ Oct 30 2014, 12:34 PM)
just looking for semi bucket. and if u said they do have anti whiplash protection, then i'll go find one. i'm definitely not into replica as the danger it presented.
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i don't see why a replica is any danger unless you are talking about a replica of a FIA homologated seat... than that presents a danger if you were take that into racing as it does not adhere to the requirements stipulated by FIA on the seat safety ratings...

QUOTE(fix24311 @ Oct 30 2014, 12:34 PM)
i hate full bucket too sweat.gif
no one likes full buckets because it's not meant to be used for daily driving unless you own a supercar or something like that...

they serve no purpose to most people and it offer next to zero adjustability...

that being said... it's the defacto type of seats to have if you are really into sports driving... semi buckets in that sense is like neither here nor there...

it feels uncomfortable because all full buckets have very little padding... that is why it has to fit your body like a glove and once that is achieved... it actually feels quite OK minus the direct impacts from the road forces if you have a hardly sprung car...

This post has been edited by nm7: Oct 30 2014, 03:16 PM
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QUOTE(fix24311 @ Oct 30 2014, 03:07 PM)
i've sat on GTi semi bucket, WRX STi semi bucket, and Neo semi bucket. My conclusion semi bucket gives more comfort to me nod.gif
then it's very simple since you prefer semi buckets... it's a case of whether you want comfort or safety? and if such a thing where both comfort and safety can co-exists... don't start complaining about the price pulak...
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QUOTE(nm7 @ Oct 30 2014, 03:14 PM)
then it's very simple since you prefer semi buckets... it's a case of whether you want comfort or safety? and if such a thing where both comfort and safety can co-exists... don't start complaining about the price pulak...
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i'm just asking knowledge whether a semi bucket seat can protect against whiplash.


This post has been edited by fix24311: Oct 30 2014, 03:18 PM
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post Oct 30 2014, 03:18 PM

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QUOTE(fix24311 @ Oct 30 2014, 03:16 PM)
when did i ever complaint about price? unsure.gif

where did u get the idea i'm complaining on price? rclxub.gif
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because that is most probably the next thing that will come...

someone will recommend you some seats that costs 10k and you will then get a toothache..

we always look forward on questions asked and try to tackle it before it gets asked...

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