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Investment Nadayu 92, Nadayu 92, anyone buying?

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Lcsx
post Jun 22 2012, 02:22 PM

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I can hint but I can't mention. Hint* the Kajang 2 mall.



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post Jun 23 2012, 04:13 PM

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QUOTE(DonnyB @ Jun 22 2012, 05:57 PM)
Kajang 2 mall. What is the connection to Nadayu92?  Metro Kajang promises usually not true
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It is very close and convenient distance. By the way, the info on the mall itself is quite public info that most people who have checked out Kajang 2 will know. But what part about it isn't? wink.gif


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post Jun 25 2012, 10:46 AM

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QUOTE(DonnyB @ Jun 25 2012, 09:39 AM)
Right now have to go through the abandoned condo, mini-hutan and kilang garam before the entrance to Kajang 2. Any future link to Kajang 2 which is nearer and nicer?
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Actually yes on that also.
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post Jul 2 2012, 12:55 PM

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QUOTE(Dayang Salmah @ Jul 2 2012, 09:47 AM)
Thanks for the info!
But any idea whether it is good for investment?  hmm.gif
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From what I can see it is. Here is a short summary.

1. Is currently still cheaper than other "new" developments around.

2. Good product finishing and concept. G+G and some facilities. Award winning and growing brand.

3. Catalysts. Kajang 2, schools, mall (major catalyst for a certain reason), shops. Close proximity and roughly in the middle of all key big developments ie. Gamuda, Mah Sing, SP Setia, Metrokajang, Naza and others.

4. Further improvement in connectivity. (You have to study in very close detail on this or it will become more obvious over time)

5. Land cost has doubled to triple since inception of Nadayu 92 (Last transacted by Dijaya was ~RM25psf). Therefore further new developments around are likely to be of high value as the developer's land cost has also doubled to triple.










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post Jul 3 2012, 06:50 AM

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QUOTE(Talbac @ Jul 2 2012, 04:12 PM)
Kajang2 and Nadayu92 were first launched if not mistaken, in the late 2009 or early 2010. Information of the area's future development has been made public since and the prices made a big leap. Could it be that the current prices already reflects all the potentials in the area since those information has been made public for quite some time already and that the price has already jump since?
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Nope, only part of it has been made public. But yes the part of it has pushed prices upwards but there is much to be reflected. And even some of those made public are only gotten by people who put the effort to study the matter in detail. And some but not all of the non disclosed information can be gotten if you study the thing in really really great detail.

Example of non disclosed but can be gotten if you study the thing in really really great detail is the road infrastructure around.



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QUOTE(Talbac @ Jul 3 2012, 10:33 AM)
Surely the developers already know the future plannings and fully priced the potentials in the selling price already? Since you have already bought, mind to elaborate the details of road infrastructure around that will be the catalyst to price?
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Negotiations and planning were done during the early construction of Nadayu. So no it wasn't priced in initially but a bit in the last phases. Anyway the market has not priced this in as they don't really know about this when they buy. If they plan to sell when its up then they will benefit.

Well I am indirectly under "NCND" on various material information from various developers. But I have done by best to indicate like I have on what things are gonna be. As for this improved road connectivity.


Added on July 3, 2012, 2:01 pm
QUOTE(Talbac @ Jul 3 2012, 10:33 AM)
gosh! can't believe metro Kajang place the international school as buffer to HTC from houses!

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That international school plot is one of the furthest plot in Kajang 2 from the HTC for your info.





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QUOTE(Talbac @ Jul 5 2012, 11:29 AM)
Nadayu company made a big loss last year and last quarter as well. I think if want to buy Nadayu92 better buy from owner since it is very near to completion already, too risky to buy from developer when developer is losing so much money they could abandon under-con project anytime.
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Actually that is absolutely not true. The reason why Nadayu "seems" to be making losses is because they adopted IFRIC 15 ahead of other competitors. For your info, almost all other developers are still retaining the "percentage completion method of revenue computation". Under IFRIC 15 you do not recognized the revenue every quarter, only until fully completed and this will be recognized on a single quarter. To put into comparison with other competitors you can refer to notes 1 of the accounts where they reported RM4.2mil profit for the quarter based on the old computation of "percentage completion method".

Balance sheet has RM27mil in cash and "Assets classified as held for sale" which is a piece of prime land for RM149mil. This is for a total of RM176mil in Cash. If you are holding that much cash and people call you risky, then I have no idea what is not risky. tongue.gif

So like I have said before, you have to do detailed studies if you really want to know the real picture. Opportunities are there when things are perceived wrongly or/and misspriced.

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QUOTE(Talbac @ Jul 5 2012, 11:29 AM)
Reading back, I notice Lcsx had answered my question when he thinks the appreciation will take place back in Oct 2011. Lcsx thinks is 2014.
Comment: Even for own stay also need to pay interest right? - which will still eat away all the potential gains even if the owner is inside the house? Perhaps the interest goes to personal expenses accounts instead of investment expenditure (like my wife do when she buys expensive bags!) 

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Well yes I initially felt the bulk of it is about then. But it seems prices are moving faster than I initially anticipated. I still see the additional Dijaya and further Kajang 2 catalyst kicking in 2014. But of course prices can move ahead on projections of future potential especially when information flow is much faster nowadays. I normally can't project growth of next few months as these are varied by market moods but over a year or two ahead is easier.







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QUOTE(dino10chels @ Jul 5 2012, 03:12 PM)
+1  rclxms.gif ..... studied quite well
if not mistaken, nadayu still have lots of undevelop landbanks  thumbup.gif
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Thanks smile.gif


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post Jul 18 2012, 02:23 PM

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Actually I don't think the price has been finalized yet for the semi-D until next few weeks. But it likely be slightly cheaper than their previous phase as the previous phase semi-D's built ups were very very big.


Added on July 18, 2012, 2:28 pm
QUOTE(dino10chels @ Jul 18 2012, 02:12 PM)
BU is 4000sf ++ if not mistaken... but have to ask SA to confirm
i tot their new launch of semi-d will reach RM1.3mil n above...but they manage to sell below this price  thumbup.gif
hmm.gif bbb mode is on?
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The previous phase was 4500+sf. Current phase is probably more regular sized. Maybe 3700++ sf?

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QUOTE(dino10chels @ Jul 18 2012, 02:34 PM)
BU is 40xxsf..... slightly smaller than previous phase lo, but still not small ma... brows.gif
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Yeap. quite big in fact. Typical semi-d is around 3500sf. Some even 2600sf.


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QUOTE(dino10chels @ Jul 18 2012, 02:39 PM)
btw...anyone have the layout plan? need to see the design as well  brows.gif
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They might not launch semi-Ds I heard. They may change in to superlinks.

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post Jul 31 2012, 10:50 AM

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Hehe Optimus,

Just wait for the Semi D proposed launch. If it doesn't launch within 3 weeks time, it is possible that they changed plans. wink.gif

But I don't think it be cheap anymore ah. Coz there was a loan dropped out unit for 3 storey, and they priced it back more according to market price. And I guess even that was bought up quite fast.



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ah but the SA may not know everything right? smile.gif
anyway what I heard is only that they may and not that they will. It's just a friendly heads up.

Har? I didn't imply that sales is bad then only it be a possibility. If you launch then only want to change its very late already.

Sometimes to change plan is to extract more value or to ensure faster sales.

Anyway will find out which one it will be sooner or later. May continue to be semi-d after all with some chance of a change.






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QUOTE(optimus28 @ Aug 1 2012, 08:19 AM)
..although i thought all semi-ds have been launched already..
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Only the very large semi-Ds (4600sf b.u.) have been launched actually. There are a few rows not launched yet.

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QUOTE(JPower 1 @ Aug 2 2012, 11:10 AM)
Earlier 3 storey is about 730K as there is 1 unit intermediate unit left at 775K (loan rejected)
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Yeah, but that intermediate unit (loan rejected) is smaller though.


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QUOTE(Ultraman2000 @ Aug 3 2012, 10:24 AM)
Ic, how about TNB power generator room? Is that a concern as well? If less than 400 metres should be ok?
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Depends which one you are talking about. If you are talking about the small one, every taman also will have. I think that one 30m should be just fine as 2 houses away you normally would be getting normal emf reading. If you are talking about the big TNB substation, I am not sure really. But I would want to stay at least 300m from a big TNB substation.


High Tension wire is about 200m is quite fine as at 150m you would be getting quite normal emf reading too. The emf drops very substantially by the time you reach 100m. ps: you can do casual readings with a mobile phone compass. If its near the mobile phone compass won't work properly due to interference.







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QUOTE(Talbac @ Aug 4 2012, 09:25 AM)
The re-sell value of property will be affected regardless of the actual effect if enough people deters themselves from buying properties near HTC. Just like houses facing T-junction, people expect substantial discount to buy properties adjacent to HTC.

Went pass the Kajang Hill road that day, the HTC feels a lot closer than before after metro kajang has chopped down the trees.
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Actually there is no or almost no effect on re-sale value on property over 200m from HTC. Only if you are within 50m. For your info some of the most expensive Semi-Ds, Terraces and Bungalows are about 50-300m from HTC. I'll give you "some" PJ, Damansara Examples of such which includes Empire Damansara@ Damansara Perdana, Mutiara Damansara Terraces, Semi-Ds and Bungalows, 9 Bukit Utama, Ara Damansara Bungalows, Damansara Lagenda & Damansara Idaman @ Tropicana area and the famous Desa Park City. There are tons more in other areas such as Bukit Jalil, Puchong, Ampang, Mont Kiara, Subang Jaya etc.

It will only put off a few minority cases which mostly so far seems to be Talbac only. Btw Talbac I didn't want to burst your bubble but I should let you know that Mutiara Villa isn't perfect either as it is 700m completely unblocked from a Telecommunications tower. (Although further, a Telco tower is much worse as it specifically transmits waves).

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QUOTE(Ultraman2000 @ Aug 5 2012, 06:53 AM)
Hi Lscx, what do u think about   TNB room that like 50m  from house? Will that affected the resell value? Or any wave that can cause problem?

What do u mean by unblocked from a telco tower? Is it mean that ppl stay in mutiara villa will facing bad receiver?  shocking.gif
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For TNB room, rule of thumb is if you are right next to it there is negative effect. 2 doors away, some effect, 4 doors away should be just fine. There is no scientific proof but I would avoid being within 2 doors next to it. However if you want to know further, the voltage in the TNB room is relatively low. Pretty much like between a house's cables to short grid TNB lines (those you find everywhere) I reckon.

The tower is at least not near Mutiara Villa. But it is not perfect la. But anyway these days if I wanna live in Klang Valley, I don't look for perfection anyway. There is usually bound to be something if you purchase in Klang Valley, others being close to main roads, highways, soil issues, too far, crime, bla bla bla.


Added on August 5, 2012, 1:49 pm
QUOTE(Talbac @ Aug 5 2012, 12:27 PM)
Did Lcsx buy Nadayu92's 2,2.5 or 3storey? Do you intend to stay there or for investment only?
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I do have a 3 storey there. But I have not decided what to do yet with it. I did think it be great staying there. But then again I only have 2 ppl to stay in there including myself and I don't actually work on that side of Klang Valley.


Added on August 5, 2012, 1:52 pm
QUOTE(Talbac @ Aug 5 2012, 01:34 PM)
the 2 rows of shops facing the main road are doing fine but the shops behind billion still a lot of them abandoned. I wonder what's the price of those shops. Last time I bought the 2-storey factory towards the Kajang Hill direction close to 100K only, now worth 500K+. However the Taman Harmoni's house price has stayed the same.
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Thats nice, you could probably rent it out as a car workshops sooner or later. There will be a lot more people and vehicles there in future.


Added on August 5, 2012, 1:59 pm
QUOTE(Bb5511 @ Aug 4 2012, 01:41 PM)

Kajang 2 SA told me that was Aeon Jusco wo..

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Ah looks like they finally began to mention that about the Kajang 2 mall. Yeah was noting that the Mall would be a very good catalyst. Towns usually begin to boom from being quiet when there is a Jusco around. Ie. Rawang, Balakong, Equine, Bandar Utama, Klang.



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QUOTE(Lion LIM @ Aug 6 2012, 10:02 PM)
the terowong near to Nadayu92 to Bangi, when heavy raining then must banjir punya wor...
then if u wanna "U" turn, go try to enter from SILK to Bandar Tech then to Nadayu, then infront Klinik Kesihatan Kajang also banjir if heavy raining
Ends up sini sana pun banjir wor..
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There will be other additional better access routes in future.



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