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xDarkKnightx
post Dec 31 2010, 08:24 PM

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I speak English, Cantonese and a lil bit of Mandarin. Am i the winz?
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post Dec 31 2010, 08:24 PM

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u all noobs

chinese is language

mandarin, canto, hokkien, hakka etc are dialects

btw, mandarin for low class lalas. canto ftw
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post Dec 31 2010, 08:25 PM

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Even indon+bangla+burmese know what we order in cantonese... if mandarin
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post Dec 31 2010, 08:25 PM

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QUOTE(Pain4UrsinZ @ Dec 31 2010, 08:22 PM)
Ah NEH , MILO PENG SATU

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lol i realise tis rojak-term oso in mamak...but apparently they understand so i used to it adi biggrin.gif
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post Dec 31 2010, 08:26 PM

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QUOTE(DuFfz @ Dec 31 2010, 08:22 PM)
How do u know?
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Here.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yue_Chinese

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Relation to Classical Chinese

Since the pronunciation of all modern varieties of Chinese are different from Old Chinese or Middle Chinese, characters that once rhymed in poetry may no longer do so today. Some linguists agree to some extent that Cantonese is closer to classical Chinese in its pronunciation and some grammar.[8] Many poems that don't rhyme in Mandarin, do so in Cantonese.[8] Cantonese retains a flavour of archaic and ancient Chinese and this has been used to study ancient Chinese culture.[8]
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Eh.. Wikipedia has everything. From cake recipe>elements. We should ban it. IMBA source of info.
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QUOTE(Kampung2005 @ Dec 31 2010, 08:26 PM)
Here.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yue_Chinese
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oh...wikipedia....
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post Dec 31 2010, 08:28 PM

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kiasu lo, mandarin speaker always like this one.
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post Dec 31 2010, 08:29 PM

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QUOTE(xDarkKnightx @ Dec 31 2010, 08:27 PM)
Eh.. Wikipedia has everything. From cake recipe>elements. We should ban it. IMBA source of info.
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Exact explanation.

http://forum.wordreference.com/showthread.php?t=166674

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Yes but what people say is that Cantonese is a more conservative language, it preserves more of the phonology of Classical Chinese (I don't know about the grammar) than Mandarin does.

For example, Cantonese preserves the original 4 Classical Chinese tones, even splitting Classical Chinese Tones 1, 2, 3 into two tones each (Yin and Yang), and Tone 4 into 3 tones. Mandarin lost Tone 4 but split Tone 1, so that it still has 4 tones in total. So some of the tones of Classical Chinese won't match up in Mandarin while they will in Cantonese.

Mandarin, unlike most southern Chinese languages, lost the final consonants in Classical Chinese. (Reminds me of how French lost the final syllable off most Latin words while other Romance languages keep them to some degree). So there are many more homophones in Mandarin that would really diverge from the original pronunciation of the poem. Also, Mandarin, like French, has palatized many initial consonants, g --> j, k --> chi, s --> sh, and simplified others (ng, m --> w), plus Mandarin does the Basque/Castilian initial f --> h shift, again changing the sound relative to Classical Chinese.
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cantonese sound good ...
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kl contonese ppl a lot ma, so everyone ma speak cantonese la
u go penang hokien people a lot ma then u ma speak hokien la
England english ppl a lot ma so you ma speak english la
japan a lot of japanese ma so ma speak japanese la
india a lot of indian ma so ma speak tamil la
TS brain dmg izit ask this type of thing
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QUOTE(DuFfz @ Dec 31 2010, 08:27 PM)
oh...wikipedia....
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Refer to the link.

Basically, Cantonese preserves some of the classical Chinese aspect, as well as having more tones than Mandarin.
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post Dec 31 2010, 08:31 PM

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cantonese is spoken more in HK compare with mainland china?
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from my rough studies of chinese language in mahresia, canto dialect speakers is like truly "chinese" from mainland.
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post Dec 31 2010, 08:32 PM

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yes cantonese is more spoken in KL,HKG,sabah. yes to me cantonese more sounds good.
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QUOTE(Kampung2005 @ Dec 31 2010, 08:29 PM)
Exact explanation.

http://forum.wordreference.com/showthread.php?t=166674
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QUOTE(DuFfz @ Dec 31 2010, 08:31 PM)
cantonese is spoken more in HK compare with mainland china?
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Of course.

Cantonese is mostly spoken in HK, Macau, certain parts of Guangdong and certain parts of Guangxi.

Remember, HK was under British rule until 1997 (from 18xx to 1997), meaning changes in China do not apply to HK. Even now, it is a SAR of China.


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QUOTE(trewq @ Dec 31 2010, 08:08 PM)
Why ppl go out buy things, bungkus in Chinese shop like to use Cantonese. How about mandarin?
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its up to you want speak in whatever language.
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QUOTE(ubsacc2004 @ Dec 31 2010, 08:32 PM)
yes cantonese is more spoken in KL,HKG,sabah. yes to me cantonese more sounds good.
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Oh..in sarawak it's mandarin, hokkien & foo chow we usually hear.
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QUOTE(ubsacc2004 @ Dec 31 2010, 08:32 PM)
yes cantonese is more spoken in KL,HKG,sabah. yes to me cantonese more sounds good.
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yes totally agree with u too.. rclxms.gif
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