Why speak Cantonese?
Why speak Cantonese?
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Dec 31 2010, 08:11 PM
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Is it wrong to speak in Cantonese?
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Dec 31 2010, 08:13 PM
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Dec 31 2010, 08:18 PM
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Dec 31 2010, 08:23 PM
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Dec 31 2010, 08:26 PM
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QUOTE(DuFfz @ Dec 31 2010, 08:22 PM) Here.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yue_Chinese QUOTE Relation to Classical Chinese Since the pronunciation of all modern varieties of Chinese are different from Old Chinese or Middle Chinese, characters that once rhymed in poetry may no longer do so today. Some linguists agree to some extent that Cantonese is closer to classical Chinese in its pronunciation and some grammar.[8] Many poems that don't rhyme in Mandarin, do so in Cantonese.[8] Cantonese retains a flavour of archaic and ancient Chinese and this has been used to study ancient Chinese culture.[8] |
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Dec 31 2010, 08:29 PM
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QUOTE(xDarkKnightx @ Dec 31 2010, 08:27 PM) Exact explanation.http://forum.wordreference.com/showthread.php?t=166674 QUOTE Yes but what people say is that Cantonese is a more conservative language, it preserves more of the phonology of Classical Chinese (I don't know about the grammar) than Mandarin does. For example, Cantonese preserves the original 4 Classical Chinese tones, even splitting Classical Chinese Tones 1, 2, 3 into two tones each (Yin and Yang), and Tone 4 into 3 tones. Mandarin lost Tone 4 but split Tone 1, so that it still has 4 tones in total. So some of the tones of Classical Chinese won't match up in Mandarin while they will in Cantonese. Mandarin, unlike most southern Chinese languages, lost the final consonants in Classical Chinese. (Reminds me of how French lost the final syllable off most Latin words while other Romance languages keep them to some degree). So there are many more homophones in Mandarin that would really diverge from the original pronunciation of the poem. Also, Mandarin, like French, has palatized many initial consonants, g --> j, k --> chi, s --> sh, and simplified others (ng, m --> w), plus Mandarin does the Basque/Castilian initial f --> h shift, again changing the sound relative to Classical Chinese. |
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Dec 31 2010, 08:30 PM
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Dec 31 2010, 08:32 PM
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QUOTE(DuFfz @ Dec 31 2010, 08:31 PM) Of course.Cantonese is mostly spoken in HK, Macau, certain parts of Guangdong and certain parts of Guangxi. Remember, HK was under British rule until 1997 (from 18xx to 1997), meaning changes in China do not apply to HK. Even now, it is a SAR of China. This post has been edited by Kampung2005: Dec 31 2010, 08:34 PM |
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Dec 31 2010, 08:36 PM
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