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farkinid
post Oct 25 2011, 02:55 PM

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I can't decide where to put this question. Its either here or in the Tiling Window Manager thread. So, I'm just gonna do it here.

Has anybody use devilspie? I'm thinking of using it while using scrotwm but I don't know how it will interact with each other because of the workspaces/viewport differences.

I'm reluctant to try it on a production machine so I'm asking here first. Hopefully somebody has some idea
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post Oct 27 2011, 11:27 AM

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QUOTE(G-17 @ Oct 25 2011, 09:46 PM)
Depends on what you plan to use it for. I only have limited hours with devilspie (and that was an older version). In the time I used it, I couldn't get it to apply transparency levels to certain (GTK) windows I wanted in Scrotwm, and eventually gave up. Didn't really see the need for it on a tiler.

Of course, your reasons for wanting to use it might be different. I'm a bit skeptical since ScrotWM uses a certain algorithm (study the source, very lean) to control window resizing, which might cause problems with devilspie. I suspect you want to launch apps in certain specific workspaces?... or maybe set rules for certain app windows to open at a certain size? If that's the case, I think a better solution would be to upgrade ScrotWM to 0.9.34 (snapshot source or git). it's got autorun functions to have certain apps launch in certain workspaces on start, and also has the very powerful (if a bit confusing)  layout functions which you can use to preset layouts for each workspace (and I'm not talking about the simple horiz/vert/fullscreen layouts, but more cutomized types). See the layout section in the  man page:  https://opensource.conformal.com/cgi-bin/man-cgi?scrotwm

Not saying it's the answer you're looking for, but might be worth considering. I've seen some BSD people get some really sick workflow with a proper combination or autorun, layout and quirk functionality.

Apologies for not having enough experience with devilspie, though. Its a decent app for sure, but I just don't have much experience with it.
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You guess about my intention was spot on. Ok I'll just go take a look at upgrading my ScrotWM
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post Dec 22 2011, 04:05 PM

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QUOTE(G-17 @ Dec 22 2011, 03:36 PM)
Can be one of many reasons, really. Some people say this is KMS related, others have stated it's some other kernel parameter or ehci,, some have even suggested it's a bug in the way shutdown interfaces with some networking related apps (nm, for example). I can't say for sure unless you give a lot of details like lshw output, various logs, battery type (if notebook), kernel version, types of modules loaded...etc.

For now, try "shutdown -now -hP" to do a full shutdown. If that doesn't work, try "poweroff -fihp" or "halt -fihp" (as superuser/root).

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Interesting, your shutdown command switches and mine are different. Mine is usually
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sudoe shutdown -h -t 10 now

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post Dec 23 2011, 10:15 AM

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QUOTE(G-17 @ Dec 22 2011, 05:08 PM)
Ahh, I typoed one of em. Added an extra dash

Should be "shutdown now -hP"

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Yours is technically the safer route, since you're telling init to wait 10 sec before sending a kill signal, giving time for some processes to disable themselves. But truthfully, once you're logged out of X and don't have something like GDM or KDM running in the background, you shouldn't need to. For @scorps, I just added a P to specify powerdown, since -h alone sometimes causes system to halt without actually powering down on some computers.
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Hmm, the truth is, I give that 10 second wait because of my experiences with Windows. I have never given it much thought as to why I do it that way until you gave me perspective.

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