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Investment SUMMER SUITES AND SUMMER V.O.S. [OWNERS' THREAD], From RM328k off Jalan Sultan Ismail

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post Dec 24 2010, 11:34 AM

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My simple view for this dev.....if u can get units priced at around 800psf.....with sizes below 600sqf................ Can whack!!!
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post Jan 12 2011, 11:56 PM

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Can drop this now.......Ofis this place kenot make it.....
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post Jan 13 2011, 11:45 PM

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QUOTE(accetera @ Jan 13 2011, 01:43 AM)
maintains Buy call on this one (provided it is residential friendly) since it is one of the cheapest thing given its location at KL CBD now....

Same here. Thumbs down if it's purely office play.......but looks like Sunrise will do an Empire with this one..... Guess will know more later today......
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post Jan 14 2011, 06:01 PM

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Credit to Sunrise............. their last minute change to business suites has ensure that this project will be a sell out.....

and with dual purpose use......this place wont die........ wink.gif


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post Jan 14 2011, 08:15 PM

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Kochin,..... dunno yet as of now........

Anyway to those who can masuk today or tomorrow below 400k.... Congrats wink.gif

Anything above 500k is a big question mark......


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post Jan 15 2011, 12:52 AM

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QUOTE(kh8668 @ Jan 15 2011, 12:02 AM)
hehehe//

WHY soho = ltv70% ONLY?

Why Business Suite = 90% loan?

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Simple.......soho is considered as residential where as business suite is commercials.......and commercials not subjected to 70% ltv........ Hence why I genuinely think this project will sell well..... Irrespective of the obvious negatives that comes with the package......


@wonghs,

That's what I'd buy as well...... But think cap appreciation will be fairly limited for this one......good if can get units but it's not like there aren't better buys out there at the moment..... wink.gif
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post Jan 16 2011, 11:55 PM

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QUOTE(chess_gal @ Jan 16 2011, 10:37 PM)
They have 8 levels of carpark, I forgot to ask the SA but I guess it would be about 2k carpark based on my estimation. There might be an oversupply of studio but the other development are pricing their unit at RM850-RM1000 hence if you compare this to M suites, M City, Elements, SS already win hands down on pricing.
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think this isnt an accurate comparison. These props arent really within KLCC vicinity...........and all these 3 r freehold?

But anyhow u look at it..........700psf for a decent looking facade, small sized units, good developer (not sure if this still hold but should be still better than Mayland ), at this location ............somemore with built ins ....................is really dirt cheap.
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post Jan 17 2011, 01:59 PM

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QUOTE(kochin @ Jan 17 2011, 01:00 PM)

4. hood, hob, fridge, air con provided

4 years construction period

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if im not mistaken, kitcab and oven also given.........................

and 4 years contruction period is a big plus for those who r vested.......would have been better if got DIBS but then again one cant have everything.......... wink.gif
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post Jan 17 2011, 05:51 PM

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QUOTE(eXTaTine @ Jan 17 2011, 04:34 PM)
Not saying that it is a bad buy....but 4 years construction seems to me more like a con rather than a pro.....ideally is 2++ to 3 years.....
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On a short term perspective........yes having your prop VPed at earliest possible is a plus. I dont fancy the prospects of being a seller come 2012-2014......... as I anticipate that it would be a buyer's market then.

But, if Sunrise allows subsale during construction...........then it makes no difference for those who wants to let go their unit early....... wink.gif
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post Jan 18 2011, 09:32 AM

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wah...........why does it matter to anyone on whether im vested or not?

Anyhow, for sake of disclosure...........am vested in SS......................not as much as I would have liked...........but more than I initially anticipated.............

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post Jan 18 2011, 10:46 AM

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QUOTE(airline @ Jan 18 2011, 09:39 AM)
Pai always target studios...
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Not true leh..........Zest, TS, Tropics, PDS, Axis, Raintree all arent studios................

I target great buys............big or small biggrin.gif


Added on January 18, 2011, 10:50 am
QUOTE(JamesPond @ Jan 18 2011, 10:42 AM)
pai, i am surprise even 400k you also buy.
you going for high end start now?
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700psf for a p/f unit in KLCC area is defo not high end..................when places like Setapak, Damansara Perdana, Kota D, all selling at min 500psf now.........

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post Jan 18 2011, 11:22 AM

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QUOTE(prody @ Jan 18 2011, 09:32 AM)
In BBB time, 4 years is better then 3 years, 5 years is better then 4 years, 2 years is better then 3 years.
In SSS time, 4 years is worse then 3 years, 5 years is worse then 4 years, 2 years is worse then 3 years. Understand? smile.gif
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While we cant predict whether it will be a BBB or SSS in 2015............. 1 thing i know for sure is that 2 things will be more expensive in 2015 :

1. Land cost
2. Construction cost.

So the longer you hold..........the more valuable it is....... wink.gif
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post Jan 18 2011, 11:38 AM

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QUOTE(JamesPond @ Jan 18 2011, 11:09 AM)
coz i am currently suffering pre-approval loan due to high commitment. all tied under-con. Cant justified further....

http://www.sunrisebulletin.com/sunrisebulletin/v.aspx?n=199
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There lies your main prob.

FYI my 1st 5 props were all completed, high yields rental props. Rental income counts big time mate.......and there's plenty other tips one can use to secure financing......... tongue.gif

But defo no hill behind............so need to be more financially savvy n dynamic to pull off all this without getting into trouble. Education is key wink.gif
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QUOTE(prody @ Jan 18 2011, 11:53 AM)
By this reasoning 10 year construction period (2021) would be even better. wink.gif
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On the same logic u r not wrong but if it takes 10 years to complete.............then we all should be dead worried tongue.gif


Added on January 18, 2011, 12:54 pm
QUOTE(lelynx @ Jan 18 2011, 11:53 AM)
Pai Kor, now still can find cheap & reasonable completed unit for rental?
mind sharing?  smile.gif
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the word "cheap" n "reasonable" is highly subjective...... wink.gif

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post Jan 21 2011, 10:58 AM

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QUOTE(Robert L @ Jan 21 2011, 09:18 AM)
Hi everyone, i went to cendana this morning, i saw construstion work at IGB land, therefore i check it out with worker on whats happening.

One of the worker told me, IGB have sold the land to Platinum, the initial show office for cendana will be the temporary office for platinum while waiting for their own show unit to be completed. The struture is ready, their sales office is 3 storey high. According to the worker, Platinum is planning to build hotel and residential apartment. Can any tai kor here to call platinum and verify this?
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I hope PV price their units lower than SS ................. wink.gif
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post Jan 22 2011, 09:56 AM

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QUOTE(Robert L @ Jan 22 2011, 09:19 AM)
Dear All,

I called PV this morning, the staff told me that PV is planning to building service apartment on that piece of land. However, everything is not final yet, as they are waiting for the approval on the plan submitted.

Details (not finalised)
1. est selling price - rm1200/psf
2. fully furnish - i think the concept similar to The Crest.
3. smallest unit start from 700sqft.
4. PV hope the project can start this year.

By 2015, the place will be quite happening.
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Sure boh.......there goes my dream to accumulate further........ cry.gif
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QUOTE(eXTaTine @ Jan 22 2011, 11:12 AM)
Planned selling price is 1200psf actually not 1000psf! Even if they revise it downwards in light of SS prices....its still a big gain for SS investors...
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Think that is assuming PV price is the median......which is defo not the case.....

marc res 1 bedded unit also only doing 1.2kpsf now, FH nat a better location altho noise is major issue there apparently.......
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post Jan 24 2011, 08:20 PM

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If anyone planning to let go their SS units pls let me know. Got fren keen to whack ................ wink.gif
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post Jan 24 2011, 10:46 PM

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QUOTE(eXTaTine @ Jan 24 2011, 08:22 PM)
The fren is not you ka Pai? I thought you wanted more units?  whistling.gif
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post Jan 26 2011, 01:06 AM

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QUOTE(chess_gal @ Jan 26 2011, 12:47 AM)
According to Pai, the second block might be managed by some Hotel Management Company such as Ascott, not sure if they would manage the whole block or sell partially as residential to investors.
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I got make such claims meh? hmm.gif

Anyhow did hear the same story...... But I would recommend taking this news with a pinch of salt.....


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