He's a beast.
It's like his first season. He was awesome then too. Now he's even better surely.
Carrick seems like a good partner for him.

He's our player. We can do whatever we want if the player is OK with it as well. SAF already said earlier in the season Cleverley would be back in the side. Things might change, but if his form for Wigan catches our eyes enough, he would be back, even if for a while. Considering we are light on the wings with Park gone and have only Giggs and Nani left who can be counted upon with Obertan blowing hot and cold, Cleverley would be involve in our games. We won't disrupt anything, except that we get to keep him for a month instead of Wigan. They would gladly accept the terms as long as they get Cleverley back considering he's important to them right now.

the best thing about Ando-kun is that he can hold the ball MAGNIFICENTLY. unlikes Carrick. he lacks the proper concentration. aiyah

yes he is or player, but were the ones whom loaned him out in the first place, and in a sense we need to be gentleman about it and honour that agreement.usually clubs do recalls if too affected but with still players availble its far chance for him to return in january.

he will return thats for sure but not this season.he still has part in our future set up and thats what the gaffer meant by him returning imo.

great result for MU ! anderson is great ! molotov is very damaging LOL

btw boxxy mana??sdah sampai rumah ka blom lol.heard kena jinx wakaka

+1

Enough of football. Time to study lol

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/...an-der-Sar.html

who is this guy? Rene Adler

hoo after yet another good performance still carrick kena stick.

he's a goalkeeper from Germany.

Our GK coach and SAF watched A.Madrid plays. Why the hell would he bring his GK coach with him to scout Valencia(the club) or A.Madrid play that time? To see Valencia's GK weaknesses? We have the tabs on all the 'top' up and coming GKs around. SAF commented about Akinfeev.. why, because he's been getting reports about him from the scouts. Chances are those scouting is for finding replacement for VDS. The whole world knows about us needing a replacement for VDS, why because nobody saw Kuszczak as nothing more than a good backup GK for us. And if we do view him as having even a tiny little chance, he would have gotten a lot more games than he has in his 4 + 1(this season) years with us. Instead he sits on the bench most times.

The likes of Nani, C.Ronaldo, Anderson always had the talent. They were just inconsistent considering they were young(still is!). Things like dribbling, crossing, playing through balls.. those guys have proven they can do it. It's just they were inconsistent. Kuszczak is just plain bad at kicking. No matter how much he practices, he would be good at it because he doesn't have the confidence whenever the ball is pass back to him and that's even before the opponents try and close him down. Kuszczak will be 29 next March. He may improve his consistency, but he won't suddenly turn into the best GKs around especially at that age.

We brought in Kuszczak precisely because of us needing a backup GK for VDS with us letting go Tim Howard that same season he was signed(first on loan from WBA). We let Roy Carroll go the season we sign VDS. So we have a need for a backup GK, which was Kuszczak. Had EPL experience, albeit very little(one season). Wasn't a regular, except for a short spell before we sign him. It was Foster who we sign with a view of him taking over from VDS, if it works out. We sign him the same season as VDS but was straight sent on loan. It's like the Roy Carroll situation. Sign him on as backup to Barthez, then Barthez went crazy, we brought in Howard.

Who knows if he's gonna be PIG's replacement?

Add Adler to that list.

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Added on December 27, 2010, 1:54 amChances are he'll be #1 with Lindegaard being #2..

This post has been edited by Wan: Dec 27 2010, 01:54 AM

If that so, it proved that United bought Lindegaard purely based on hypes (?)

As with most loan agreements, we can recall our players whenever we wanted. We only have Giggs and Nani as the seniors. Considering Giggs is a dinasour almost, we do need every quality players available at our disposal ready to play for us.

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The Manchester United manager told Inside United Magazine: “We’ll probably bring Tom back in January,

"Tom’s going to be a great footballer, I really like him. I’ve heard the fans are starting to talk about Tom, and I think they’re right to do that because he could very well be the next top player to come through the ranks."

Although Ferguson confirmed his intention to recall Cleverly, the Scot believes six months away from Old Trafford will serve the precocious former Watford loanee in good stead, not least because the arrival of Bebe in the summer may have hindered the midfielder’s first team opportunities had he remained with the Red Devils.

Ferguson continued: "When we signed Bebe it gave me a problem in terms of our 25-man Premier League squad. Not because Tom is ineligible – he’s young and English so he fits nicely into the criteria – but because he was an extra player and somebody else to keep happy and find a spot for.

"I felt it could be hard to give him enough football. I think five or six months on loan could really help him – he’ll benefit from first-team football in the Premier League."
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fair point but stating blatantly that one player is back up is what doesnt feel right imo.i mean every one goes trough rough patches, injuries suspension etc.thats when we need the number 1 to replace the number.my take is those whom are still here is all on the same shelf.were never the club to go stagnant and filed the same bodies every single game, thats what were really good at.

as for tom, ben and lindergard, the competition is still open.lindergarrd maybe was brought in to be back up as weve let ben go if so to speak on your terms.and as for tom improving, now not even you know it man.who are we kidding here.vds wasnt the sharpest tool when he was at fulham either.yes he was doing great at juve and before that but he himself was onec deposed by some one beater.and with his age and defying that number itself he become successful again with us.so who are we to say that at 29 or even further tom would be a world beater.

yes clubs can bringg them back anytime, no one saying they cant.but seieng how cthe lad had stop and go season, its best for to stay at wigan where he is assured a starting berth then here with us wch is a high premium even with park off for 7 games.as far as quality goes gibbo has it, and so does mr hot and cold french.only consistency+experience is lacking in them

This post has been edited by mhyug: Dec 27 2010, 02:04 AM

Get him back in January, then loan him back out within the loan window. I don't see how that's a problem.

key word would be stop and go .he has to be back here training with the united set up(not to say he is alien to it but would be diffrent then what he was preping up week in week out at his current home club)

but if he does return in jan, i doubt he will go anywhere after that.that way he is set for better progress.you know what he would be staying or returning for that matter if one of our old friend still doesnt make a comeback.

This post has been edited by mhyug: Dec 27 2010, 02:08 AM

Kuszczak was brought in as a backup. GKs unlike outfield players, can't be rotated too much. One mistake, and it can cost you games. With outfield players, their mistakes can be cover up by other players. With GKs, you don't take that chance. 4 years, and he never once got a look in, except in the Cups and when VDS was out injured. He's a backup. He was a backup at WBA as well, before he got his chance(main GK injured or something) for that one season before we got him on loan.

Unlike Kuszczak, VDS always had the ability. He always had the ability with his kicking, controlling the ball with his feet his confidence was good as well. He played for one of the best team at the time. And was replaced by the one of the best GKs around. That's no shame. Although he makes mistakes there, but even Schmeichel make mistakes. Fulham at that time was loaded, that's why he ended up there. At that time he sign for Fulham, we already got Barthez who had a very good first season with us. And it was likely that other top teams don't need GKs at the time. GKs at top teams don't generally move around a lot.

He had 4 seasons with us myhug. And whenever he plays, those stuff he's weak at stick out like a sore thumb. He will never have the confidence, the kicking ability, the aura of calmness that great GK brings to teams. Not many are, and that's why we're looking at other up and coming GKs and trying to sign them.

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Added on December 27, 2010, 2:20 amHe just need a little adjusting to do, but it's no big deal. He already know first hand how we train. It's not like signing a new player who never had the experience of training with our first team before. We are getting back one of our own who was with our setup for years before joining up with Wigan on loan.

It depends a lot on Valencia. If we feel confident that he's gonna be fine, like with earlier in the season, it's better for Cleverley's development that he go out on loan and play regularly somewhere in EPL.

This post has been edited by Wan: Dec 27 2010, 02:20 AM