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post Dec 27 2010, 10:54 PM

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QUOTE(chiahau @ Dec 27 2010, 10:53 PM)
You mean Siggy lens? They need to be sent for calibration thingy. Tammy n Minolta n CZ all work fine, If i recalled correctly.
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yup² maybe the new sigma.. need to mod..
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post Dec 27 2010, 11:08 PM

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QUOTE(ieR @ Dec 27 2010, 10:30 PM)
codyx: when u read review on the tamron1750, most website is using nikon or the canon version which their camera required motorized lens. hence the Conventional motor is noisy.
on sony, we have body motor driven, so the sound is SAME across all any A mount lenses.

becareful when u read review, most review are not base on lenses for A mount which alpha has slightly diff approach. non VC 1750 on canon and nikon faces a lot handshake issue even with high iso on lowlight compare to sony with SSS.
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OLDer sigma requires their chip to be replace with the one compatible with A33/55.

the New one mostly are replaced with the new chip.

it is not calibration.
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post Dec 28 2010, 12:03 AM

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wanna ask u guys, cheapest f58 i've found is rm1k though....anyone got cheaper??
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post Dec 28 2010, 12:04 AM

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QUOTE(porkchop @ Dec 28 2010, 12:03 AM)
wanna ask u guys, cheapest f58 i've found is rm1k though....anyone got cheaper??
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if new one.. it's cheap.. <--(lol 1k cheap) sweat.gif

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QUOTE(porkchop @ Dec 28 2010, 12:03 AM)
wanna ask u guys, cheapest f58 i've found is rm1k though....anyone got cheaper??
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1k cheapest so far. and its the malacca shop you are getting from. He's the only one who offers such price >">
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kekek and got another guy i recommend brows.gif

tell mitmivec I recommend u and he can give u same price too

looks like i am gonna get from him tomorrow flex.gif

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post Dec 28 2010, 12:44 AM

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QUOTE(ieR @ Dec 27 2010, 10:30 PM)
codyx: when u read review on the tamron1750, most website is using nikon or the canon version which their camera required motorized lens. hence the Conventional motor is noisy.
on sony, we have body motor driven, so the sound is SAME across all any A mount lenses.

becareful when u read review, most review are not base on lenses for A mount which alpha has slightly diff approach. non VC 1750 on canon and nikon faces a lot handshake issue even with high iso on lowlight compare to sony with SSS.
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so actually the one i am planning to get from mitvivec is a New Model? what what di II version?....for sony i know is without VC...so in the nutshell...izzit applicable for me to get this lens for a55? any thing i need to note? and you mean the motor sound should not be worried to me?

thanks for the feedback! rclxms.gif appreaciate that!

QUOTE(porkchop @ Dec 28 2010, 12:19 AM)
kekek and got another guy i recommend   brows.gif

tell mitmivec I recommend u and he can give u same price too

looks like i am gonna get from him tomorrow  flex.gif
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recommend me too...a55 thumbup.gif


Added on December 28, 2010, 12:48 amOne last thing...i planning to get a external Flash...can you guys recommend me a good one? no need to be sony because i ready tight on Budget...reaaal tight ><....and i also want a longer/deeper lens flower hood and a cheap detachable tripod stand...anybody can quote me? how is mitvivec quotes?

tqvm again!

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post Dec 28 2010, 01:02 AM

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codyx: 1750 is good lens indeed, no i wouldnt call it old, as there is only 1 version for sony, and that it, the new with VC seem to have more issue on canon and nikon then non VC model. so, dont need to worry, we have like 10 user here with the 1750, half of them no complain, half complain bout backfocusing, but the backfocusing issue is very random(some got it fixed result from body, NOT LENS), noone has report from A55 user yet with 1750 problem.

my advise, stick with kitlens first, cheap and backup lens when u have new lens (or when new lens like tamron1750(or other kitlens replacement) goes to service, u'll have a spare 1855)

as for flash, there is reason why original brand flash are expensive (even C and N).
they spend HUGE amount of money the develop ADI(sony/minolta), eTTL II (canon, or iTTL(nikon) compare to 3rd party is just simply a TLL which cause very inaccurate and inconsistant flash result. (except 3rd party like METz (which is same price as sony flash) with licenses($$) from company to use their ADI/eTTL/iTTL technology.)

stick with original, if u have tight budget, leave the tamron lens first, get flash like F58,

or B. get the tamron, and sony F20 flash (small compact, and fun)
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ier, well said

cody, I think mitmivec has teh latest one, but on sony mount i think the VC is taken out ...the II is still there, the last i remember, sold mine already

also on flash, if ur on budget get the f42 lo...but i would suggest get the f58 instead if u can...rm1k only ma now tongue.gif but else, then go for f42 then only upgrade to f58 then u can play 2 wireless flash already

anyway I have not fully molest the a55, see if can get to play it at mitmivec shop...but the evf sure make me wanna vomit..
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QUOTE(ieR @ Dec 28 2010, 01:02 AM)
codyx: 1750 is good lens indeed, no i wouldnt call it old, as there is only 1 version for sony, and that it, the new with VC seem to have more issue on canon and nikon then non VC model. so, dont need to worry, we have like 10 user here with the 1750, half of them no complain, half complain bout backfocusing, but the backfocusing issue is very random(some got it fixed result from body, NOT LENS), noone has report from A55 user yet with 1750 problem.

my advise, stick with kitlens first, cheap and backup lens when u have new lens (or when new lens like tamron1750(or other kitlens replacement) goes to service, u'll have a spare 1855)

as for flash, there is reason why original brand flash are expensive (even C and N).
they spend HUGE amount of money the develop ADI(sony/minolta), eTTL II (canon, or iTTL(nikon) compare to 3rd party is just simply a TLL which cause very inaccurate and inconsistant flash result. (except 3rd party like METz (which is same price as sony flash) with licenses($$) from company to use their ADI/eTTL/iTTL technology.)

stick with original, if u have tight budget, leave the tamron lens first, get flash like F58,

or B. get the tamron, and sony F20 flash (small compact, and fun)
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QUOTE(porkchop @ Dec 28 2010, 01:12 AM)
ier, well said

cody, I think mitmivec has teh latest one, but on sony mount i think the VC is taken out ...the II is still there, the last i remember, sold mine already

also on flash, if ur on budget get the f42 lo...but i would suggest get the f58 instead if u can...rm1k only ma now tongue.gif but else, then go for f42 then only upgrade to f58 then u can play 2 wireless flash already

anyway I have not fully molest the a55, see if can get to play it at mitmivec shop...but the evf sure make me wanna vomit..
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I Love you both...okay let me explain my story

I was advices to grab the tamron due to it's low light potential aperture than the kit lens...so by this i prioritize on image quality

secondly i need a external flash because the body flash as we all know is useless and worst for close up or near shorts

budget issue....for a55+tamron(approx 3.3k).....plus flash(not considering small ones)..i heard nissin brand was good..no idea about the compatibility....hence i need a flash which is budget wise but has standard feature....therefore sony hardware flash cost more to my budget and i was thinking you guys have any alternative flash i can wear...i do not prefer perfect flash but as long i got one

the reasons for my statement above because i wanted to build a complete DSLR set(better lens/external flash) because i wanted to use it ASAP....i do not care for spare issue as i just a student and i cost to be an enthusiast!...i know better price gadget comes with exp price but the time now as long i can get a full rig i have satisfied....budget-urgent business....after then i can consider selling of/replacing/buying much much more appropriate lens/flash as long i got a good machine(a55)...agreed?

therefore, please consult again....so far as i know i'll skip the kit lens and get tamron for now....the issue is the ex flash....i need a price ranging for the flash so i can budget....i was hoping to get a decent/non sony ex flash for around 3xx-6xx...lesser the better whistling.gif

hope you guys understand.. wink.gif

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EVF is not for everyone, but it seem many love EVF. i myself like EVF, it has more advantage then disadvantages.

but some ppl just exaggerate how bad it is, when its just a mere mind psychology thing. i mean, there is so many ppl LIVED fine with LCD liveview (compact camera to mirrorless to DSLR, and infact, noone ever complains bout the liveview or LCD!!!!!) and the EVF is just a mere LCD in a hole for those "hole" freaks (looking into the hole makes u look more pro mindset or how silly u are using the LCD LV to take pic, looks like compact shooter or uncle photographer etc. the mindset is soooo strong that even when we saw Nex user, we will never think they are PRO or think they are just noob sigh~)
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QUOTE(ieR @ Dec 28 2010, 01:29 AM)
EVF is not for everyone, but it seem many love EVF. i myself like EVF, it has more advantage then disadvantages.

but some ppl just exaggerate how bad it is, when its just a mere mind psychology thing. i mean, there is so many ppl LIVED fine with LCD liveview (compact camera to mirrorless to DSLR, and infact, noone ever complains bout the liveview or LCD!!!!!) and the EVF is just a mere LCD in a hole for those "hole" freaks (looking into the hole makes u look more pro mindset or how silly u are using the LCD LV to take pic, looks like compact shooter or uncle photographer etc. the mindset is  soooo strong that even when we saw Nex user, we will never think they are PRO or think they are just noob sigh~)
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i rely on evf..beside under great sun light....evf give you the priority focus...hehe
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u do not need a F2.8 lens when u have marvelous ISO body. period. kitlens can do as good.
u wan bokeh, get 50mm F1.8. period.
99% nissin-sony user i know will have hard time selling the flash and eventually will get F58 flash. F58, end of flash journey, nothing to upgrade anymore and no worries for many years to come.

prepare rm200-250 to get a PROPER charger and LSD-type(google/wiki) AA batts for ur flash.
shashinki now having promo for get the 401s(period) with their New imedion2400(LSD type) and FOC a carrying case/bag for it.

and finally, if u do not have saving up to 5k, dont bother start DSLR. u will settle with HALF HALF setup. u only will feel more frustration then satisfaction.

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QUOTE(ieR @ Dec 28 2010, 01:35 AM)
u do not need a F2.8 lens when u have marvelous ISO body. period. kitlens can do as good.
u wan bokeh, get 50mm F1.8. period.
99% nissin-sony user i know will have hard time selling the flash and eventually will get F58 flash. F58, end of flash journey, nothing to upgrade anymore and no worries for many years to come.

prepare rm200-250 to get a PROPER charger and LSD-type(google/wiki) AA batts for ur flash.
shashinki now having promo for their New imedion2400(LSD type) with free bags, get the 401 charger(period).

and finally, if u do not have saving up to 5k, dont bother start DSLR. u will settle with HALF HALF setup. u only will feel more frustration then satisfaction.
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ok..since i have no budget...you recommend i get the kit lens and get a better sony flash?..afterwards just grab a better lens....something like future planning?....it's true i don't have the initial budget....but flash is important...

alright...i'll consider taking kit lens package with sony flash....how much is the flash again? what i need to know? extra item to be brought?....btw i need a good lens flower hood..since i don't think kit lens have one...how much for a long deep hood?

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ohya btw, the tamron lens.....

Di - means it has chip (distance information and zooming length info) sorry wrong info, Di means it has coating meant for digital sensor.
Di II - means its for crop sensor only (not fullframe friendly)

sony version of tamron has always been a Di II there is no such thing as Version II

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QUOTE(ieR @ Dec 28 2010, 01:39 AM)
ohya btw, the tamron lens.....

Di - means it has chip (distance information and zooming length info) sorry wrong info, Di means it has coating meant for digital sensor.
Di II - means its for crop sensor only (not fullframe friendly)

sony version of tamron has always been a Di II there is no such thing as Version II
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so tamron or kit lens for my case? budget case?
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cody, i think A55 will let u survive for quiet sometime with great iso and speed.... u are sony staff? unless the manager there is nice enough then only u get cheaper/staff price (no, u cant get cost price. it is confidential to let other know the cost price, u might get fired too if ur manager or someone from sony finds out u spreading cost price list around tongue.gif)

the lens hood is for outdoor use with u have strong lightsource in corner (eg. the SUN) but then, a lot of people LOVES the sunflare, it add dramatic effect to the photo. and i doubt there is petal hood for the 1855 kitlens as it has rotating front element?

as for flash, we always as ppl get F58 if budget allows. also it look really really really weird for F58 to sit on a small A55 body (F58 is huge)

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QUOTE(ieR @ Dec 28 2010, 01:44 AM)
cody, i think A55 will let u survive for quiet sometime with great iso and speed.... u are sony staff? unless the manager there is nice enough then only u get cheaper/staff price (no, u cant get cost price. it is confidential to let other know the cost price, u might get fired too if ur manager or someone from sony finds out u spreading cost price list around tongue.gif)

the lens hood is for outdoor use with u have strong lightsource in corner (eg. the SUN) but then, a lot of people LOVES the sunflare, it add dramatic effect to the photo. and i doubt there is petal hood for the 1855 kitlens as it has rotating front element?

as for flash, we always as ppl get F58 if budget allows. also it look really really really weird for F58 to sit on a small A55 body (F58 is huge)
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then?

btw i know stock prices

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cody: just get a A55 first, get used to the camera first, after u feel like u can handle the camera, then only add accessories like flash.

getting a flash might confuse u when shoot or trying to get a good shot. i have many friend after 3 month still can get the flash to work rite... then i found out, they have mess up the setting with the body, not the flash. learn the body first.

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