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Streamyx Streamyx Is Planning Revising Fair Usage Policy, Do you agree or not ? Please Vote Now ?

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takercena
post Dec 18 2010, 12:50 AM

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I am going for Limited Bandwidth. However 60GB is too small for me sleep.gif. FUP need to be revised. However if it is possible, TM can create different package targeted at difference audience such as http://www.plus.net/support/broadband/spee...itisation.shtml
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post Dec 18 2010, 12:55 AM

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QUOTE(iipohbee @ Dec 18 2010, 12:52 AM)
The unlimited fiber usage at this moment is consuming most of their bandwidth at this moment.

Admit it. They can't implement the volume cap with their Unifi users at this moment because it would be a 2nd blow to them as well people would steer away from subscribing Unifi fending off many potential subscribers.

Here's a 3rd solution:

Make your HSBB network neutral and allow other isps to come in.
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Too bad, this kind of suggestion is up to gov.


Added on December 18, 2010, 12:56 am
QUOTE(birain @ Dec 18 2010, 12:54 AM)
maybe the bandwidth limit should follow the HDD size like 120gb, 320gb, 500gb.
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Yes, even I think it is sarcasm, I agreed with you. But I only spend 3 day at home per week so I don't think I can go for that smile.gif

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post Dec 18 2010, 12:59 AM

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QUOTE(khtan2000 @ Dec 18 2010, 12:57 AM)
dont really think they will leave this FUP out for good regardless what we say, when I signed my contract in 2004, dont even have this FUP crap in it, TM just change as they like.

I vote for limited bandwidth as like it or not FUP probably here to stay, as well ask TM to give a a real bandwidth number so we could manage our downloads with condition that no more throttle p2p or certain sites, no specific ip priority(like mine 60.xx nicest ping, 115cap, 118 uncap, 124 local cant even load sometimes). However the bandwidth must be a realistic value, not like 1 TB a month which beat the purpose of bandwidth limit which most probably TM will reject anyway, or only <60gB as we are already paying premium for such low speed.

100% no to contention ratio like what is happening now, everyone slowed to 256/384 indiscriminately. Even though my speedtest shows that I'm getting 1.5mbps for my 1mbps package, using monitoring software can see that the download speed varies also (like triangle shape, go to max rate then drop back 50KB, then back up)
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Yes, the one that will agree with this is 512kbps users.

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post Dec 18 2010, 01:00 AM

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QUOTE(zamans98 @ Dec 18 2010, 12:59 AM)
allow MAXIS already ma...
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More specific, JARING or TIME and not MAXIS. tongue.gif
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post Dec 18 2010, 01:03 AM

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QUOTE(birain @ Dec 18 2010, 01:01 AM)
i like the way before the experiment started. now every thing is turning into a mess.
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You mean before UNIFI start depleting all the bandwidth? Most streamyx users never exceed the limit, however TM doesn't want to admit this and put blame on Streamyx users, while UNIFI continue enjoying our sacrifices, with 5-20mbps uncapped in both upstream/downstream.

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post Dec 18 2010, 01:07 AM

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QUOTE(birain @ Dec 18 2010, 01:04 AM)
agree about? btw, i'm on 512 line.
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Well technically, 4mbps users can get speed like 512kbps user most of the time, which is UFUP. (unfair FUP).
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post Dec 18 2010, 01:12 AM

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QUOTE(birain @ Dec 18 2010, 01:11 AM)
i think 512kbps should be the baseline if they intended to capped, and not anything lower than 512kbps. nod.gif
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And therefore, why they introduced 4mbps package at first place?
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post Dec 18 2010, 01:17 AM

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QUOTE(vapeace @ Dec 18 2010, 01:15 AM)
if TM insist on aplying volume cap this is what i want or most of us want

512Kbps -> 50-80GB per month
1Mbps -> 80-150GB per month
2Mbps -> 150 -250GB per month
4Mbps -> 250 -350GB per month

screw those who download 1TB per month, Just because u download 1TB for yourself.. all of us have to suffer  vmad.gif
i see that volume cap is pretty reasonable for me.. as i only download a max 150Gb per month.  laugh.gif
user may different
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I am wondering if ADSL is stable enough to download 1TB per month. sleep.gif
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post Dec 18 2010, 01:30 AM

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QUOTE(Oga @ Dec 18 2010, 01:27 AM)
Before I cast my vote, does revising FUP mean it's a good thing or a bad thing?
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If you want to get out from this mess, the answer is yes. But if you don't have a faith on GLC company, better not voting.
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post Dec 18 2010, 01:33 AM

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QUOTE(mylinear @ Dec 18 2010, 01:28 AM)
Sure enough, it was already said before...  normally after this sort of meeting with some users, something like this will happen, and it has.

It really seems that TM is using these user group meetings to do their dirty work for them. They let some users go and spread the news and get feedback. Seriously, a large company like TM can't do this sort of survey or pass on news by themselves??
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From Altantuya to GE to anything else, there will always be like this.
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post Dec 18 2010, 02:07 AM

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Yea, maybe we MX510 can give answer in 8 hour. Or now.

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post Dec 18 2010, 02:14 AM

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QUOTE(mylinear @ Dec 18 2010, 02:12 AM)
Yes, and let me also say this. Say for example the result is everyone agrees to a data transfer limit. Then the next survey will be focused on that. And they give you a choice of 5Gb, 15GB or 20GB . Then what? You will say, ok let's just take the highest one since they all seem low anyway and so vote for 20GB. Example only.

IWO, they can dictate how the outcome is going to be according to what the outcome they would like to have. Mainly because there is no further info, no way to get answers, no way to debate anything.

Look at the survy options again. Take for example:
Limited Bandwidth like UniFi VIP packages ( 60GB per month )

Was it just MX510 who put 60GB to show as an example of how it is for Unifi?

Or is it really 60GB? For which package? 1Mb? 2Mb? 4Mb? Or for everyone irrespective of package?

How can you agree to data transfer limits when you are not told what they would be?

How can you agree to contention ratio when you do not know what the ratio will be and even if you do, how exactly will the contention be resolved and bandwidth distributed?

There is not enough info or answers. You must have that to make an informed decision.
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Yea thanks for clarification. Maybe I just want this problem to be solved as quickly as possible.
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post Dec 18 2010, 02:27 AM

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QUOTE(qedx @ Dec 18 2010, 02:25 AM)
I signed up for an unlimited service. I did not sign up for some BS fair usage policy to be tacked on at a later date.

So I guess that is a "hell, no!" for me then.
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Yes, hell no to what?
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post Dec 18 2010, 02:30 AM

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Even using VPN also slow. huh.gif huh.gif
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post Dec 18 2010, 02:33 AM

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Can we put another option? No to ZAM as CEO?

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post Dec 18 2010, 02:51 AM

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Yes, MX510, please elaborate what you got from the meeting and then describe what TM is going to do about that. Then after that we can discuss about the possible solutions.
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post Dec 18 2010, 03:00 AM

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QUOTE(biatche @ Dec 18 2010, 02:57 AM)
So, what I can see so far is:

A. We give more $
B. They provide less
C. Why exactly is TS providing VPN / "downloading" service?

Great meeting indeed.
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Well he claimed that it is non profit service. So can you please do not put pressure on him? However, we need this problem to be settled as quickly as possible.
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post Dec 18 2010, 10:37 AM

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QUOTE(Tentris @ Dec 18 2010, 10:07 AM)

Added on December 18, 2010, 10:11 am

I really have no idea who started this cockamie theory.

Unifi is eating all the bandwidth so Streamyx got non left.

It's the type of simplistic conspiracy theory that simple minds will buy.

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Then tell us is it just coincidence that UNIFI users can download as fast as you can while the friend beside him with streamyx being throttled like there are super extra power big outrageous accident in PLUS? , or because of 2000+ VIP is coming using the highway?

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post Dec 18 2010, 01:37 PM

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QUOTE(vapeace @ Dec 18 2010, 01:33 PM)
from the slide they are planning to apply VB of RM2 perGB on streamyx user as well.. If compared 20Mbps speed it bang for the buck

wtf their management is thinking ??????? 512Kbps exceed VB have to pay RM2 per GB..ridiculous indeed laugh.gif
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12mb cache q9550 is RM600. 1TB hard disk is RM170. RM2 per GB?
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post Dec 18 2010, 01:51 PM

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Well if 30 000 of streamyx user download 1TB every months, then our bandwidth is around 750TB

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