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 The next USB DAC, come on guys let's guess it!, Powerful DAC in small size!

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tunertoobe
post Jan 23 2011, 04:26 PM

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Owh, leectronics not good ka?
Maybe the speed and complexity overwhelms it.
I don't have any electronic music in my library, not my thing. tongue.gif
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post Jan 23 2011, 04:43 PM

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QUOTE(tunertoobe @ Jan 23 2011, 04:26 PM)
Owh, leectronics not good ka?
Maybe the speed and complexity overwhelms it.
I don't have any electronic music in my library, not my thing.  tongue.gif
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Trance, house, electro, etc....

No sound lively...like got constipation..then no syok liao.... laugh.gif
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post Jan 23 2011, 06:47 PM

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Oh, you mean like, compressed?
Hmmmm....now that you mention it, I've never tried some of my prog music, which does have electronic elements in them. And you're right, they do sound a tad bit smothered. hmm.gif

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post Jan 23 2011, 06:50 PM

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QUOTE(Cosef @ Jan 22 2011, 12:33 AM)
My Review:

For users who listened to Burr Brown op-amps before, you'll easily guess out how it sounds like. I was amazed by
The PCM2706 DAC running I2S made the same sound signature like the op-amps do. I personally not really like Burr
Brown Op-Amp after i tried OPA2107 and OPA2604 before, but this DAC was a lot better with Burr Brown sound
signature on it.

Onboard Realtek ALC887 vs Wolfson WM8501 DAC from chchyong89 running with my Modded Edifier M3300.

High:
ALC887 has sweeter soundings on high, it can goes up higher. WM8501 DAC high was flat, not detail enough but
still blend in the music nicely.

Mid:
I'll say WM8501 has great mid, really amazed me. It was rich, dynamic and strong. ALC887 has thin mid but it has
better details than WM8501.

Bass:
WM8501 bass round and deep, not boomy but compare to ALC887 it loses on details again. ALC887 bass can go higher,
much refined too.

Overall sound:
WM8501 DAC has warm, smooth, bold and round. It gives a different taste to the music, makes you fall in love with
it. It's soundstage is narrow, quiet feeling, vocal sound to your face and the instruments sounds like far away
from you, not all the musics.
ALC887 has wide soundstage, details, much neutral soundings.

Scores:
High: 6/10
Mid: 9/10
Bass: 7/10

Overall: 7/10  -1 because it is danger to have it naked sometimes  tongue.gif
Conclusion:
I prefer this DAC for user who wants a different taste on thier setup. For neutral sounding i prefer go for other
DAC or sound card, or you can give it a try if you fed up to your on board one. because this DAC sound
interesting. For only RM168, with good quality components, can't expect much more.

A pic for the DAC  rclxms.gif
user posted image

Remember that different pc setup will affects the onboard audio codec performance due to noisy components inside
pc interfere it. I just refer to my own pc onboard for the comparison. blush.gif

I will try test it again on hi-fi setup.
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thx for sharing m8.
at least i know this isnt for me.
am lookin for neutral sounding.
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post Jan 23 2011, 06:55 PM

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Could somebody do like, an RMAA test or something to test out this DAC? biggrin.gif
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post Jan 23 2011, 07:12 PM

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QUOTE(DaEMoNteNTAcLe @ Jan 23 2011, 06:50 PM)
thx for sharing m8.
at least i know this isnt for me.
am lookin for neutral sounding.
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A similar to know roughly how it sounds like is refer to Naim Sampler album, the sound signature is quite similar.
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post Jan 25 2011, 08:04 PM

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Just got my DAC an hour ago from chchyong! rclxm9.gif
Will do some serious listening tonite.
Good to see you again, chchyong. wink.gif
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QUOTE(jazzy939 @ Jan 25 2011, 08:04 PM)
Just got my DAC an hour ago from chchyong!  rclxm9.gif
Will do some serious listening tonite.
Good to see you again, chchyong.  wink.gif
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Hope to see your reviews and opinions on the DAC rclxms.gif
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post Jan 25 2011, 08:50 PM

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QUOTE(Cosef @ Jan 23 2011, 04:43 PM)
Trance, house, electro, etc....

No sound lively...like got constipation..then no syok liao.... laugh.gif
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Trance, house, electro, etc not good ka? hmm.gif

wow thats great then! rclxms.gif cos I don't like that genre music, I like classical and jazz music which you say it sounds superb! yay! rclxm9.gif
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post Jan 25 2011, 09:15 PM

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A short 'burn in' in progress.. driving my Superlux HD681 right now.
Will hook up to my main system later tonite for an initial impression.
Stay tune! wink.gif

* I promised chchyong for a review too! biggrin.gif

QUOTE(Cosef @ Jan 25 2011, 08:43 PM)
Hope to see your reviews and opinions on the DAC  rclxms.gif
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post Jan 25 2011, 09:46 PM

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QUOTE(jazzy939 @ Jan 25 2011, 09:15 PM)
A short 'burn in' in progress.. driving my Superlux HD681 right now.
Will hook up to my main system later tonite for an initial impression.
Stay tune! wink.gif

* I promised chchyong for a review too! biggrin.gif
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Jazzym I hope you really like it. blush.gif since u listened to so many
quality DAC before, I am worrying you wont flavor this blush.gif
Btw, open a new thread for it la, purely for
review one, this thread basically used for technical support one tongue.gif So
every reviews of this DAC can dump at there biggrin.gif

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post Jan 25 2011, 11:32 PM

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Do I like it, definitely! At this low price, it wouldn't be fair to pit it against commercial DACs costing many fold over, right? But it would be nice to know what's lacking for sure.... and of course it's strength if any... tongue.gif
Will post when I am done.. several more tracks to play and analyze.. hehe wink.gif
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Yes, at this price, we cannot simply compare it to better DAC which costs more that it.

But i wanna try compare see how much difference will it be tongue.gif

Few more days i can go try it on Hi-Fi set >.<
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post Jan 25 2011, 11:45 PM

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Cosef,
The difference will be very noticeable! Heck, the improvements will obviously costs many times more! laugh.gif There's no such thing as 'free lunch' ...
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post Jan 25 2011, 11:56 PM

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QUOTE(jazzy939 @ Jan 25 2011, 11:32 PM)
Do I like it, definitely! At this low price, it wouldn't be fair to pit it against commercial DACs costing many fold over, right? But it would be nice to know what's lacking for sure.... and of course it's strength if any... tongue.gif
Will post when I am done.. several more tracks to play and analyze.. hehe wink.gif
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I am so glad you like it! wub.gif A moment before I still worrying you this
old and experience uncle will like my this cheap thing or not sweat.gif
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post Jan 26 2011, 12:08 AM

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No problemo! There would be no reason NOT to like it! He he.. Will try to get it a really nice casing.. Naked is good but.. looks 'vulnerable' lah.. laugh.gif
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post Jan 29 2011, 03:38 PM

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Received the DAC already, now under run in time.

Saw you at Car Hifi Forum before.
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post Jan 29 2011, 09:54 PM

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QUOTE(loon1031 @ Jan 29 2011, 03:38 PM)
Received the DAC already, now under run in time.

Saw you at Car Hifi Forum before.
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Hope you like it biggrin.gif How does it sound btw biggrin.gif
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post Jan 29 2011, 11:01 PM

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Hehe, just played around withe the DAC. I connected my laptop to the TV via S-video, and the sound is outputted through the TV speakers via the DAC's RCA output.

Something intriguing happened, the volume on some parts of songs fluctuate. Why is that? And this isn't just random fluctuation. It happens at parts of a music and it follows the music. The sudden burst of volume happens not to the whole music, but at some parts the lead guitar gets loud, and at others the vocal gets loud, and at times, everything is balanced. What's going on?

Owh and one more thing, when using an amp, either desktop or portable, would using the RCA and the 3.5mm to output to the amp make much of a difference?

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post Jan 30 2011, 01:56 AM

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QUOTE(tunertoobe @ Jan 29 2011, 11:01 PM)
Hehe, just played around withe the DAC. I connected my laptop to the TV via S-video, and the sound is outputted through the TV speakers via the DAC's RCA output.

Something intriguing happened, the volume on some parts of songs fluctuate. Why is that? And this isn't just random fluctuation. It happens at parts of a music and it follows the music. The sudden burst of volume happens not to the whole music, but at some parts the lead guitar gets loud, and at others the vocal gets loud, and at times, everything is balanced. What's going on?

Owh and one more thing, when using an amp, either desktop or portable, would using the RCA and the 3.5mm to output to the amp make much of a difference?
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Either the 3.5mm and RCA both are same, there will be different if you are "believer".
Do you have other amplifier using RCA? give it a try, we will solve this problem
all togethers wub.gif no worries biggrin.gif

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