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leongal
post Dec 9 2012, 08:13 AM

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We finally engaged with cyrocord for the basic stem cell storage, during the 4th Maternity expo.. Spoken to our gynae over the matter n her advice is to go for 5 vials (the more the better), since cyrocord is the only company with this facility at the current moment, but we decided basd on that... Total package is rm2300(first pymt) +rm2500(20 years) + option of 5 vials (rm500), then they have a baby carrier gift, but since we already got our baby carrier, we decided on the cash option, discount of rm300, overall we paid a lump sum of rm5k

We decided to store bcod hubby is a thallesemia carrier... So there is chance tat our baby will be a carrier too....
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post Dec 28 2012, 10:37 AM

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i met with the crycord consultant yesterday, the package got three which is cord blood, cordblood+MSC (2 million) and cordblood + MSC (30 million).

If you only go to cord blood package, the first sign up amount is RM 2300 ( 1 bag) and Rm 2800 (5 vials). Continuely will be RM250 per year (non limited year)

They are package for you until 21 years oled which is ard 5K+ ( The exact amount , u can check with the consulatant).

Regarding the MSC, (kind of jelly storage), you may check/google around as this is quite new for me smile.gif
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post Jan 4 2013, 10:12 PM

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QUOTE(leongal @ Dec 9 2012, 09:13 AM)
We finally engaged with cyrocord for the basic stem cell storage, during the 4th Maternity expo.. Spoken to our gynae over the matter n her advice is to go for 5 vials (the more the better), since cyrocord is the only company with this facility at the current moment, but we decided basd on that... Total package is rm2300(first pymt) +rm2500(20 years) + option of 5 vials (rm500), then they have a baby carrier gift, but since we already got our baby carrier, we decided on the cash option, discount of rm300, overall we paid a lump sum of rm5k

We decided to store bcod hubby is a thallesemia carrier... So there is chance tat our baby will be a carrier too....
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QUOTE(nexUp @ Dec 28 2012, 11:37 AM)
i met with the crycord consultant yesterday, the package got three which is cord blood, cordblood+MSC (2 million) and cordblood + MSC (30 million).

If you only go to cord blood package, the first sign up amount is RM 2300 ( 1 bag) and Rm 2800 (5 vials). Continuely will be RM250 per year (non limited year)

They are package for you until 21 years oled which is ard 5K+ ( The exact amount , u can check with the consulatant).

Regarding the MSC, (kind of jelly storage), you may check/google around as this is quite new for me smile.gif
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Hi Leongal/nexUp/Cryocord subscriber,
Is that RM2800 (5 vials) using AXP automated machine or manual?
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post Jan 4 2013, 11:55 PM

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QUOTE(cierra_tansy @ Jan 4 2013, 10:12 PM)
Hi Leongal/nexUp/Cryocord subscriber,
Is that RM2800 (5 vials) using AXP automated machine or manual?
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At the end of the day it depends on your baby's cord quantity of cell.. My baby's lack quantity of cell, thus had to use manually.... They will contact you to tell whether auto or manual
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post Jan 5 2013, 10:38 AM

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My 2 cents here. Whether it makes sense or you agree/disagree it is up to you.

Few years back when my wife was about to deliver our 3rd (and final) child, she raised the placenta storage option. Initially, it sounded very good/promising from what I read. Later, decided to ask a friend in one of the forums (who happens to be a doctor) and also my sister's good friend in Aust (who happens to be a doctor as well) on stem cells cryogenic storage. They both suggested not to go for it as the reality on stem cells "cure" is not what one reads in newspapers/magazines/internet.

My other reason for not going for it is, it is also quite expensive and adding salt to injury, stated that they are not liable if their cooling system fails. Read recently that they can also use other cells as stem cells (still in early research).

I am sure there will be a chain of replies disagreeing with me (those who have already done it?). Like I said earlier, just a quick recap of my decision making flow. If I missed the "golden" opportunity, my fault then.

Cheerio.

This post has been edited by plumberly: Jan 5 2013, 04:41 PM
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If affordable or spare money then buy. Just my 2 cents.
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post Feb 14 2013, 11:54 AM

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Good morning! Anyone have experience with CellSafe? Are they also okay comparing to CryoCord?
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post Feb 14 2013, 03:18 PM

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QUOTE(Josh0027 @ Feb 14 2013, 11:54 AM)
Good morning! Anyone have experience with CellSafe? Are they also okay comparing to CryoCord?
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To be honest, all of them have horror stories which can be found easily via a simple search on Google. However, based on what I've read, StemLife received the most flak.

I personally consulted CellSafe during a baby fair but the Sales Consultant provided me wrong facts hence I went to Cyrocord instead. sweat.gif
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post Feb 14 2013, 05:28 PM

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QUOTE(talexeh @ Feb 14 2013, 03:18 PM)
To be honest, all of them have horror stories which can be found easily via a simple search on Google. However, based on what I've read, StemLife received the most flak.

I personally consulted CellSafe during a baby fair but the Sales Consultant provided me wrong facts hence I went to Cyrocord instead. sweat.gif
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Thanks talexeh! smile.gif I wasn't able to find any info about CellSafe for some reason, maybe need to Google again.

I was able to talk to a CryoCord representative on last year's PISA baby fair and they are very professional in explaining the details to me. CellSafe though is much cheaper.

Yup, StemLife... I've read so much about them that it strained my eyes. I'm definitely avoiding them.
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post Feb 15 2013, 02:03 AM

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QUOTE(Josh0027 @ Feb 14 2013, 05:28 PM)
Thanks talexeh! smile.gif I wasn't able to find any info about CellSafe for some reason, maybe need to Google again.

I was able to talk to a CryoCord representative on last year's PISA baby fair and they are very professional in explaining the details to me. CellSafe though is much cheaper. 

Yup, StemLife... I've read so much about them that it strained my eyes. I'm definitely avoiding them.
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Ooh... PISA eh? I was there as well to inquire about cord blood storage. I went to CellSafe first & then CyroCord. If CellSafe didn't feed me with misinformed facts, I would have gone for them instead of CyroCord. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(plumberly @ Jan 5 2013, 10:38 AM)
My 2 cents here. Whether it makes sense or you agree/disagree it is up to you.

Few years back when my wife was about to deliver our 3rd (and final) child, she raised the placenta storage option. Initially, it sounded very good/promising from what I read. Later, decided to ask a friend in one of the forums (who happens to be a doctor) and also my sister's good friend in Aust (who happens to be a doctor as well) on stem cells cryogenic storage. They both suggested not to go for it as the reality on stem cells "cure" is not what one reads in newspapers/magazines/internet.

My other reason for not going for it is, it is also quite expensive and adding salt to injury, stated that they are not liable if their cooling system fails.  Read recently that they can also use other cells as stem cells (still in early research).

I am sure there will be a chain of replies disagreeing with me (those who have already done it?). Like I said earlier, just a quick recap of my decision making flow. If I missed the "golden" opportunity, my fault then.

Cheerio.
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The medical pro are still divided on this issue of storing cord blood stem cells. This is largely because it is still under the research phase although some success have been demonstrated. In some countries only public cord banking is available and in Malaysia Pusat darah Negara is offering this servis too on top of the services offered by commercial companies.
storage facilities requires cryogenic facilities + clean rooms for stems cells extraction and processing + tests prior to storage + security services etc etc..This facility shud be just like a medicine manufacturing facilities coz they dun want contamination as well preserving viability of the cells..So cost is playing a big factor in this area.

I belive those who engaged the companies have adress this...hoping Anybody can share
a) whether the company is giving guarentee on the viability And min potency of the stem cell stored? ( viability = dead or alive , potency = min cell required for use)
B) procedure to withdraw the cells for the future i.e tests conducted prior to use

P.s im not from any company offering servis.
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post Feb 18 2013, 08:46 AM

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QUOTE(talexeh @ Feb 15 2013, 02:03 AM)
Ooh... PISA eh? I was there as well to inquire about cord blood storage. I went to CellSafe first & then CyroCord. If CellSafe didn't feed me with misinformed facts, I would have gone for them instead of CyroCord. biggrin.gif
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Hmmm... maybe it is different from every sales agent of any company. I was bugging my CryoCord contact on clarifications on their packages. They haven't replied to any of my inquires, even follow-ups. During PISA, they were so accommodating but when it comes to follow-ups they don't answer you back. They need more training on customer service. shakehead.gif

I got the CellSafe package instead. Good thing you reminded me of questioning their packages and so far their answers were satisfactory. No BS. I read their contract and the terms of service is reasonable for me.
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post Feb 18 2013, 03:31 PM

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hi,

Stem cells have the remarkable potential to develop into many different cell types in the body during early life and growth . In addition , i many tissues they serve as a sort of internal repair system's , dividing essentially without limit to replenish other. cells as long as the person or animal is still alive .





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post Feb 19 2013, 03:50 PM

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From my understanding from various souces stemcell works something like this.

Baby A stores stemcell sample A, Baby B stores stemcell sample B. If baby A has Leukemia, baby A can use the stem cell of baby B. Then the sample A has to be discarded as defective, since baby A is proven to develop leukemia.
So 2 stemcells can only be use by 1 individual, if you will only have 1 baby. Probably dont need to store any stemcell since using stem cell by themselves are not viable option as for now.

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post Feb 19 2013, 09:35 PM

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QUOTE(Aggie123 @ Feb 18 2013, 03:31 PM)
hi,

    Stem cells have the remarkable potential to develop into many different cell types in the body during early life and growth . In  addition , i  many  tissues they serve as a sort of internal repair system's , dividing essentially without limit to replenish other.  cells as long as the person or animal is still alive .
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U sure without limit to replenish other cell??
what about dosing?? side effects??
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post Mar 2 2016, 03:29 PM

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Thank you all for the information given.
Just to reconfirm.... let say I stored A's stem cells. 3 years later, A developed leukemia. Can I use A's stem cell to cure him? Or I need to find other ways eg other matching stem cells for transplantation?? icon_question.gif
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post Dec 15 2017, 12:28 PM

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QUOTE(FRIEND2 @ Mar 2 2016, 03:29 PM)
Thank you all for the information given.
Just to reconfirm.... let say I stored A's stem cells. 3 years later, A developed leukemia. Can I use A's stem cell to cure him? Or I need to find other ways eg other matching stem cells for transplantation?? icon_question.gif
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Possible, but doctors prefer to use a donor's stem cell for that according to what I've read.

Basically, private banking is discouraged and even outlawed in some European countries, but sadly, we don't have any public banks in Malaysia that I know of.
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post Dec 26 2019, 11:48 PM

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Dear all, my wife is going to deliver soon. Am thinking of opting for stell cell bank package with either Stemlife or Cryocord. Understand there are 2 main packages - Cordblood and Cordblood and MSC. Still doing my own research/reading online

Any recommendation based on your experience? Thank you
Terence573
post Apr 30 2020, 10:09 AM

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This thread had been not active a while,but ive googled bout cord blood and stuff and since im expecting new born in June.Just to add info to this that the salesperson even mention stemcell to fight COVID19 in China.
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hello guys.. between stem life & cryocord.. which one do you think is more better?

Thanks for the help.

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