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post Dec 11 2010, 04:34 PM

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QUOTE(vanderbilt @ Dec 11 2010, 02:44 PM)
i would like to ask you one question. let's say i am applying for my 3rd credit card ©, which scenario is better to get higher limit and better chance of being approved:

scenario 1

Card A: Fully utilized and been paying minimum

Card B: Almost fully utilized and paying minimum

or

scenario 2

Card A: no outstanding at all

Card B: no outstanding at all

Was told most banks prefer scenario 2, but some say they like customers in scenario 1 better so that they can earn from the interest. What do you think?
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your application approval and CL in not just based on above, the banks will also take into consideration of your income and total credit facilities approved by other banks e.g. housing loan, car loan personal loan, OD, etc. Different banks have different evaluation criteria, In the last thread, one guy applied many cards one go and some banks rejected his application and another bank giving him Platinum.
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post Dec 11 2010, 09:52 PM

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QUOTE(rockefeller @ Dec 11 2010, 06:45 PM)
i know.. but i'm speaking about other card spending and payment pattern here..
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I was replying to vanderbilt post, how come pulak you implying I answering your question rclxub.gif whistling.gif wink.gif

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post Dec 11 2010, 10:04 PM

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QUOTE(MaxWealth @ Dec 11 2010, 10:00 PM)
Hi just want to know about HSBC annual fees. Is it free?
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for HSBC visa platinum is it now free as long as you swipe 12 times a year. Amanah is free also. Today at Midvalley, the HSBC told me that Amanah give cash back and even GST, but I was not interested so didn't bother to ask further. Go check it out.
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QUOTE(MaxWealth @ Dec 11 2010, 10:49 PM)
Ok thanks bro. Btw, what's the diff between Gold Visa/Master and Amanah Gold Visa
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Amanah as the name implies is based on Islamic principles. So you can't use it for clubbing tongue.gif and non-halal transactions.

Anyway, please note that HSBC overseas transaction is high, read the last few pages of the previous thread.

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post Dec 11 2010, 11:16 PM

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QUOTE(MaxWealth @ Dec 11 2010, 11:00 PM)
Thanks for your info.
Btw, i heard few of my friends saying that it is "worthy" to buy with credit card rather than buying with cash overseas.. any idea?
Thanks Miles..understood...
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it depends on the exchange rate of the currency at the time of purchase. For example, if you exchange US at money changer a week before you went overseas and while you were there, US currency weaken and then by using the card you will most probably pay less. However if the rate was constant, using card you will end up paying more as there is an admin charge. Do note that some cards do give more points for overseas transactions e.g. RHB Travel & most Plat cards.

QUOTE(MilesAndMore @ Dec 11 2010, 11:04 PM)
If you have HSBC or Citibank credit card that gives you lots of discount in certain countries such as Singapore and Hong Kong or if you have a Maybank credit card that gives a very favorable exchange rate, then yes. Definitely. Otherwise, cash probably will help you to minimize the loss in exchange rate better.
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Dont' know about HK, but was in SG 2 weeks ago and didn't notice any HSBC promotion but Citibank many shop giving extra 10% discount on top of sale price.
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post Dec 12 2010, 10:24 AM

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QUOTE(winner @ Dec 12 2010, 06:57 AM)
I guess vanderbilt = rockefeller. biggrin.gif
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yah, noticed that vanderbilt and rockefeller postings are similar (always mentioning enrich points) and both also rich. rockefeller has MBB WMC and vanderbilt dad has RM300K CL for CIMB Enrich card. But the funny thing is vanderbilt started a thread asking where can "cash" out from merchant in KL or something like that rclxub.gif How come vanderbilt no ATM card?

so rockefeller care to explain?

QUOTE(opjust @ Dec 12 2010, 08:41 AM)
Sir,

I want to ask, if i want to make full settlement of my credit card.. is there such thing as discount? I heard before but not sure its real or not...

2nd, let say I have 7k of cash n 7k of credit credit card debt...
should I pay that amount or do something else with that cash..
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QUOTE(opjust @ Dec 12 2010, 09:44 AM)
ic... tq for your advise sir... i really felt the burden of paying only minimum payment everymth..
I want to settle all and forget about credit card... been using it for wedding preparation few mths back...

on the other hand, thats the only cash I got... I been thinking of paying my debt.. but got 1 of my frens giving me advise if u got the money use that for other purposes or just save it..
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QUOTE(David83 @ Dec 12 2010, 08:53 AM)
There's no such thing of discount if you settled the CC bill before the statement/bill due date.

However, if you have other CC from another bank that offers balance transfer at attractively low interest; i.e 0% for 6/12 months, you can transfer the outstanding to that CC. By doing so, you can utilize your cash for other revolving purpose; not getting into more debts.

Make a wise decision.
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opjust: your statement that you want to settle all and forget about credit card is good. As for your friend, he is not the one being imposed interest nor is he the one paying the bills. The only reason that can justify you paying off the debt later is that you now at this moment can use the money to invest and earn more than the CC interest charges but I doubt that (unless you can do BT as David mentioned and get 0% installement, but you need to have anther card on hand and it takes time to get a new one approved, if you posted before you purchase the stuffs, many here can give you ways to prolong your payment with 0% interest).

Go read the thread on how long it takes to pay up your debt if you only pay the minimum. It takes years, Don't start owing people money, moreover you just married and your lifestyle will change tremendously once you have children.

Just pay off the debt since you got the money and start saving all over again.
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QUOTE(MilesAndMore @ Dec 12 2010, 02:15 PM)
The one in KLCC does, if my memory serves me correctly.
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burger king do accept CC. However once at Midvalley, their terminal was down but they still gave me 10% discount with CIMB WMC.

Today was at 1U GSC, use my DA VI to get 2 free tickets as my wife has a supp from me too. If I were to go there 3 times a year then it will breakeven the GST cost.

1U is the best place for shopping as besides getting rewards point or cash back with CC, we get free gifts from 1U shopping centre and/or MBB centre and OneCard points that can be used as payment. Also at 1U MBB card members can redeem 210 treatPOINTS for RM1 cash equivalent to pay merchants with RCUBE Programme.

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post Dec 13 2010, 05:35 PM

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QUOTE(leozai @ Dec 13 2010, 05:20 PM)
haha... dunno consider shopping or not ... need it for IPHONE 4 EPP XD... planning to gift it to my GF
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just hope that you are not investing on someone else wife in the future tongue.gif

QUOTE(cherroy @ Dec 13 2010, 03:33 PM)
This pinned credit card thread is specific for this purpose already, don't need duplicate discussion.

As if moderating team allow multiple CC topic around aka each credit card one topic, 50 topics also not enough.

Thank you for cooperation.
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well, we can start to update on OCBC Titanum oulets giving 5% rebate and the next person who open V14 post it on the second post. Do what people do at garage sale and specific phone thread, reserve the 2nd and 3rd post.

I have yet to receive my EON Signature card, not free today to go branch and check if arrived but already got another telemarketer calling me to ask if want do Cash On Call or something like that where interest 3.99% upfront. But they offering only up to 50% of CL whereas HLB also calls me time to time offering cash loan for 6.99% (i think should be 6 months period) but up to 90% of my CL.
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QUOTE(yhtan @ Dec 13 2010, 05:37 PM)
isn't that Digi EPP plan is combine together of phone value and bill value? i'm not sure about this

One of my friend earn quite high, around 3-4k per month, but every month spend until finish, because he need to settle car loan, rental, EPP for phone, EPP for sunglasses bla bla bla, i already advise him to cut down on spending because this commitment could kill him if he cannot sustain the income, he is doing sales line fyi.
This is how nowadays Y-Generation people spend, too attracted by the glamorous and forget the 4 basic thing of our life(Food, Car, House and Clothes) which u need the minimal to survive
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for DiGi iPhone, well I sign up for the 24 months plan earlier this year for the iPhone 3GS where the amount is charged to my DA. The iPhone is used mainly for internet and calls never exceed the allocated minutes. Then few months back was at DiGi and I asked the can I sign up auto debit for my iPhone account eventho the bill is RM0 (since I know that I get RM5 discount for my BB RM58 plan) and was informed sure. So signed up for auto debit with my AMEX Gold CC and now the iphone account has more RM26 credit thumbup.gif

yah, EPP and other installement plans kind make us spend more and buy stuff we would otherwise cannot afford. I have mentioned before, sometimes we get discount if we were to swipe in full instead of going for EP with merchant. Last year Harvey Norman gave me RM100 discount for a HP tablet and more than RM300 for a cloth dryer on condition I don't do 0% installements with them. Was also given discount for furniture shop at Subang Parade if don't go for installments.

QUOTE(yhtan @ Dec 13 2010, 05:40 PM)
u so rich already, why need cash on call service or personal loan? tongue.gif
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just sharing on the cash on call thingy. I just checked EON bank's cash on call. Pretty good if need cash, with the 1% cash back the interest is 3.99% for 12 months as mentioned by the telemarketer. The rate is even lower than my OD facilities. I can even make some money out of it - only if I can still get FD with interest paying 5%. Or if want to buy car and just need loan for 1 year tenure, this may be an option as car loans minimum tenure 3 years.

http://www.eonbank.com.my/personal_banking...llforcash.shtml

QUOTE(MilesAndMore @ Dec 13 2010, 05:56 PM)
Just go to Sushi Zanmai lah. Good enough already. It's cheap (for Japanese food) and foods are generally fresh  biggrin.gif
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for fusion food with Japanese flavour, Pasta Zamai cheaper. I just love the garlic fried rice with chicken.


QUOTE(David83 @ Dec 13 2010, 06:16 PM)
Ok so far I have got following by using MC, note must be a single swipe:

(1) Subang Parade - RM100 gets you 2 pop up christmas greetings card. Also qualify you for lucky draw.
(2) Pavillion RM500 gets you a small pouch, good for ladies to keep make up I suppose. [EON bank CC - RM300 get you a better gift, my EON card still not in my hands so didn't get anything from EON. CIMB giving hampers].
(3) Midvalley - RM250 get 1 token for 5 hours carpark. RM400 2 tokens get a mug. Applies to any HSBC too.
1U - nothing with MC and yesterday free calendar already finished for that day and it wasn't even noon time.
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post Dec 13 2010, 10:22 PM

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QUOTE(rockefeller @ Dec 13 2010, 10:09 PM)
serious?
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yes, at Ground Floor. But if you have Isetan or Robinson card also can.
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OT - If want get iPhone, make sure sign up for DiGi Plan where the price for internet usage is fixed. If sign up with Maxis do note you will be charged for every additional 10kb used once you reach the allocated GB. Same applies to BlackBerry plans, go with DiGi for unlimited internet usage with fixed monthly cost and don't forget to sign up for autodebit with CC or AMEX and get RM5 discount.

Collected my Eon Visa Signature today. There's no EON Bank logo in the front and the card is not pure white but more of biege color. Card looks very plain and don't look like a Premier Card. Click here to view my card at my blog at credit cards malaysia blogspot.

QUOTE(erry- @ Dec 14 2010, 05:34 PM)
why u so lazy to go to scb website?  doh.gif
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normal lah, must be something to do with our education system where the students are spoon feed. Sometimes got Uni students asking about their assignment too in this section.

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QUOTE(persistence85 @ Dec 14 2010, 06:04 PM)
does the fixed deposit for Rm70k will appear in CCRIS report too?
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No, only credit facilities given by banks. However if you pledge FD as collateral for credit facility then there will be a code/note.

It will be cool if can get a report on our deposits in all banks.

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QUOTE(MilesAndMore @ Dec 14 2010, 06:30 PM)
Don't think this is a good idea. Not to me anyway especially if Bank ABC can check your total deposit in Bank DEF.
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Well, you be surprised that SB knows your networth.

QUOTE(MilesAndMore @ Dec 14 2010, 06:33 PM)
Because that's a fashionable thing to do. Just like owning a DSLR  biggrin.gif  Other things are considered lame. All you have to do and just ask. No need to go through all the hassle yourself to get the answer  whistling.gif
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and got people like us here got nothing better to do and answer their questions biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(MilesAndMore @ Dec 14 2010, 06:36 PM)
To use the phone for 2 - 3 years ? Yeah. Guess i am fine with that.
SB ? Somebody ?
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SB = Special Branch

QUOTE(MilesAndMore @ Dec 14 2010, 06:38 PM)
laugh.gif  And i am just boosting my post count. Win-win i suppose.
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who cares about post counts. does not benefit us but allow one to have global unlimited attachments

As for you, I would say that you are one of the most informative person in this section as far as cards and banking accounts are concerned.
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Just read, up to October this year, 4651 people declared bankrupt due to CC. Article from The Edge
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QUOTE(hye @ Dec 14 2010, 11:15 PM)
I share your sentiments but everytime I voice out something ... I always get flamed! rclxub.gif
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just keep posting your comments. sometimes we do get senso people who don't know how to read (or don't read) what was posted and think we attacking them whereas we are only stating facts.
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Just got my Alliance statement enclosing a pamphlet where they offering 12 months BT 0% interest minimum amount RM2000 up to 80% of CL. No mention of admin/handling fees. However there is a 5% charge for early exit.

Good, more banks offering 12 months 0% BT. Hopefully next year CIMB/DA will match this offer instead of 0% for 6 months. I like DA BT, separate statement for BT and very fast approval and application can fax in.

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QUOTE(Robin Liew @ Dec 15 2010, 05:22 PM)
yesyes yes
cimb has a very good balance transfer with separate statement

btw, for cimb bt, on the 6th month, we have to settle full? or the 7th month?
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well if you don't settle in full by the 6th payment then you just have to pay higher interest.

Better to call CS and confirm when dateline to settle in full somewhere on the 5th month to avoid interest charges.

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QUOTE(skincladalien @ Dec 15 2010, 07:50 PM)
what are the steps to apply balance transfer? only and transfer to another bank?

btw maybe can update first page for annual fee free card -> Affinbank

and also Affinbank tier 1 is only 9.9%p.a

(on a side note, i seriously hardly see people use affinbank cc. sometimes i take out the card the cashier is like what card is this lol)
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AMEX Gold CC also 9.9%

Step 1 - You must have outstanding balance (except for HLB they can give you cash without you owing anybody any money) in your existing card (in your case Affin card and we call it Card A);

Step 2 - You must have another credit card from another bank, say Card B (if want to do BT and no 2nd card, plan in advance because applying for a card may take up to 3 to 4 weeks before you can actually do BT) and choose wisely as not all cards give 0% interest;

Step 3 - Get BT application form for Card B (usually can download it from bank website) and fill in the amount you want to transfer from Card A, all other details required, tick where applicable and sign the application form. Failing to do one or the other may delay in your application being approved;

Step 4 - Post or fax (recommend you fax instead of post) application form to Bank B togeher with Card A Statement. Also important that you immediately take action and fax the form after you got statement for Card A to allow Card B to process, approve and make payment before Card A due date;

Step 5 - not necessary but recommended, pay at least the minimum payment card A and never BT 100% just in case application got problem. This is to avoid bad credit records; and

Step 6 - check with Bank B 3-5 days after you faxed application to check status. Then after few days again to see if approved. If approved find out when they paid for card A and after 2 days check with card A to confirm. You can wait for letter from Card B to inform you that your application have been approved, however if your application was rejected and you found out after Card A due date, you'll be imposed interest on Card A balance.

Click more on BT at my sign.

MileAndMore - e.g. of nothing better to do - quick manual for BT biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(ronnie @ Dec 16 2010, 10:47 AM)
I received 5% rebate from MPH in my latest DA statement... I thought the offer was over. Thank you DA/CIMB  icon_idea.gif    rclxms.gif
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the offer until 31 Dec and you did get RM5 vouchers too from MPH using DA/CIMB MC?

In the first post, Best WMC for frequent flyers = MBB WMC but for non frequent flyers, best is CIMB/DA WMC where got many offers and free coffee.


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