anyone interested to become a proposal engineer?
Oil & Gas Career v2, Job Oppurtunities & Technical Sharing
Oil & Gas Career v2, Job Oppurtunities & Technical Sharing
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Apr 12 2011, 04:51 PM
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anyone interested to become a proposal engineer?
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Apr 27 2011, 08:36 PM
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u can try any refinery plant e.g. exxon, shell or petronas..
come to think about it, discussions here mostly talked about career opportunity in 'upstream' oil & gas... there r lot of opportunity in 'downstream' oil & gas also. QUOTE(DriksoN @ Apr 26 2011, 12:51 PM) Added on April 27, 2011, 8:44 pmconsultants firms are not actually at the bottom of the O&G chain. most of my friends who work with the consultants earns a huge amount of money. companies like SBM, Technip, DPS etc pays their employee amongst the highest for engineers. QUOTE(syiafuku @ Apr 23 2011, 11:01 PM) to each his own.i agree u can basically start off at any job,be it working from the lowest in the O&G chain(consultant firm etc),or right from the top(operators such as PETRONAS,SHELL).depends on the market and the vacancies.and of course luck.but to be a really good O&G engineer, you should start from a consultant,then move up to fabricators(like Kencana),so on and so on.you won't get much technical knowledge in operating companies.operators is more to business,document reviewing,management,budgetary etc2.in the long term,u are better off starting from the bottom.at least that is what i think This post has been edited by lovebattery: Apr 27 2011, 08:44 PM |
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May 11 2011, 03:25 PM
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hi all,
anyone has any idea about the career prospect as a proposal engineer? currently i'm working as a proposal engineer in one of EPCIC contractors for O&G projects. previously i worked for 1 & half years as an estimator for a shipyard doing FPSO projects. frankly speaking, i'm a bit loss as how would my career should progress as an engineer especially. as you would see, my line of work involves less technical but inclined more to commercial part of O&G projects. my main tasks are costing, spreadsheet, tender preparation etc. am i qualified to obtain my PE qualification based on my work experience? any of you guys would like to share what is the career prospect for me? how would my career progress 5-10 years from now? does any of the clients (petronas. empmi, shell) hired people like me? it's kinda boring with all the paperworks, proposal write-ups etc. it makes me feel less like an engineer but more of a business exec. kind of a person. thanks y'all. |
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May 12 2011, 11:52 AM
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thanks for the reply
used to be an estimator for structural-hull discipline for FPSO conversion projects with one of the shipyard in south malaysia. the only one with the FPSO construction capability... some people would refer it as the 'grandson' of petronas i think you can guess who. anyways, yes you are right as there are support depts. e.g. engineering, planning, procurement & subcontract etc. to porvide the technical inputs regarding any oil & gas projects. you can always apply for a position there in my old place. with their current book order & upcoming projects, they will be searching for people to fill in various positions. gumusut is out by the end of this year. recently awarded for FPSO cendor. i think kinabalu & tapis topside still in ongoing. they got some more gafar for iraq project. you from KNM? QUOTE(nibiahk @ May 11 2011, 09:56 PM) I am an estimator, definitely, as an estimator / proposal engineer, your work is more on commercial part, for me, there are somebody to back up on the technical parts such as engineer. if you want to qualified as PE, I think you should change to technical. mind to tell me where u work as estimator? I am looking new environment =P I am working in an engineering contractor firm, doing steel fabrication, pressure vessels and heat exchangers. |
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May 12 2011, 03:56 PM
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hahah...
used to be la.. now already with another company. doing proposal for EPCIC OnG projects. but still tired doing all the paperworks & write-ups. so how bro? u think any prospect for career advancement in this line of work? how long have u been an estimator? QUOTE(nibiahk @ May 12 2011, 01:51 PM) |
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May 12 2011, 04:05 PM
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hi,
ruby was already there when i started working. but cendor is mine already awarded & 1st cut steel already. now u're working with which consultant? if in kl i narrow down to a few... used to work for ruby project? QUOTE(karirzies @ May 12 2011, 03:49 PM) i was with kencana years ago (but not pinewell One problem about kencana IMHO is the HR, no time off and 10 days annual leave, and other benefit is not good enough compared to other similar company. i don't know whether this have changed, but according to my friends there it is still the same even after they transferred to solaris. dunno if they still work on saturday. in pinewell if as a field engineer should be mostly in field like offshore/shipyard, prospect wise should be good as most of the seniors will go for office position after 5-10 years, so there will always be opportunity for young engineers. design/engineering will be much different and most of the time will only stayed in office except for maybe acceptance test and vendors visit, and also if after completion of project got problem at site than you will have the chance to go i was from the design background but now doing something diff - still related to o&g err.. lovebatt... u did ruby isn't it? hehehe.... i was there during the start of the project, but stayed in kl at the design consultant office. wonder if we know each other? |
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May 13 2011, 12:31 PM
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yup.
my last job as an estimator is just minding my own job. there are ocassional meeting with clients, vendors, subcon etc. sometimes go to ship check. but other than that, just i'm just an ordinary office guy. now in new company, i got involve also with tender preparation & bidding process. but here is lesser technical. last time when i'm an estimator i got to do some technical work e.g. generating MTO, do some calculation (blast & paint area, staging volume, tank painting area etc). here, all the calculations done by the supporting dept. i'm here just to coordinate suppporting dept. to provide input for bidding. u think it's already late for me to change my career path? QUOTE(nibiahk @ May 12 2011, 04:36 PM) I think the prospect depend on what company, small company will have better chance like my current company, most of the senior employee the ex-estimator here already become a boss, some open their own yard else where. In those MNC or those oil n gas group, salary is high but i don think u can easily to reach the management level. But in my environment here, although i am an estimator, but i handle all the matters in project, from the tender, negotiation with client, liaise with client, liaise with my design engineer, co-ordination with all departments during the progress, including purchasing... client's payment.. etc. so i had learned technical & also commercial. if u want to be PE, then this might not suitable for you. if you want to be a boss or to be a contractor in future, then this is good for you to learn business & operation. your last job in shipyard, that consider a big company, u will just assigned a particular work, u will not handle others stuff not related to estimation/proposal, am i right? i have another thread here, pls support support http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1872941 |
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May 23 2011, 12:32 PM
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one think to note if u consider working in pasir gudang.
the environment there is really bad. u can practically smell the pollutants through the air u're breathing. not so much regulations enforcement. chemical plant, palm oil plant, fertilizer plant, some more heavy construction... |
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May 26 2011, 11:58 AM
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May 31 2011, 08:37 AM
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try this blog: http://savvycareers.blogspot.com/2011/05/c...exxonmobil.html
looks like exxonmobil is looking for a fresh graduate chemical engineer. good luck. QUOTE(swissprecision @ May 27 2011, 07:22 AM) I graduated with a BSc in Chemistry. Just wondering how come I cant seem to find any jobs for oil and gas that requires a chemist. I noticed all also want those with Engineering degree. Am I looking in the wrong place? Added on May 31, 2011, 8:44 amcontrary to that, marketing work for O&G is really an interesting job. i've never been there myself, but from what i know from my experience their job involves a lot of travelling. and by this i mean internationally. participating in conventions & expos. meeting with prospective clients (once my colleague got to join this meeting with Modec.. trip to japan y'all) as i am from the fabricator's side, we do a lot of marketing to our international clients. QUOTE(lock_82 @ May 30 2011, 07:29 AM) There isn't much marketing work for O&G I suppose... other than end users product like lub-oil, gas station... guess it would be boring Added on May 31, 2011, 8:46 amagreed. the marketing arms usually be called by business development. QUOTE(ch_teo @ May 30 2011, 08:31 AM) there are some. but mostly internal promotion or dept. transfer under "business development". This post has been edited by lovebattery: May 31 2011, 08:46 AMsometimes, one needs networks for this. or u can try your luck @ OGA 2011 coming soon 1-3 June 2011 @ klcc. |
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Jun 1 2011, 11:27 AM
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of course it's goin to be tough.
we're talking about exxon here dude. anyways, no harm in trying. QUOTE(mea05key @ May 31 2011, 06:52 PM) 1 vacancy for graduate mechanical engineer??? i suspect they will receive thousands of application. Tough competition. Added on June 1, 2011, 11:28 ami've tried for the cost engineer post. but so far no reply from SBM. what post r u applying? QUOTE(FOnte @ Jun 1 2011, 12:49 AM) This post has been edited by lovebattery: Jun 1 2011, 11:28 AM |
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Jun 7 2011, 11:41 AM
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all the best & good luck.
QUOTE(swissprecision @ Jun 6 2011, 11:42 AM) thanks for the pointers for OGA 2011. went there and deposited some resumes. applied for MMC, SapuraCrest, Chevron, Kencana for QA/QC or internship. hopefully can get in. Added on June 7, 2011, 11:43 amwent to OGA2011, i thought sime darby engineering is bought by MMHE already. but they have dedicated booth there.. also quite a huge one.. This post has been edited by lovebattery: Jun 7 2011, 11:43 AM |
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Jun 15 2011, 09:41 AM
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aker solutions is hiring.
details can be found here: http://savvycareers.blogspot.com/2011/06/c...-solutions.html |
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Jun 28 2011, 05:17 PM
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stumble upon this:
http://savvycareers.blogspot.com/2011/06/c...ty-ranhill.html seems the oil & gas door is not really closed for fresh grads... |
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Jul 4 2011, 02:40 AM
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i noticed that there has been a few threads abt petronas...
they start hiring for fresh grads? |
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Jul 9 2011, 07:45 PM
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1. most technical people are engineering graduates. their discipline may vary, but for sure it's either Bsc or BEng
2. depending on what business the company is in in the oil & gas chain value... services, EPCIC, E&P etc. different business require different people. 3. i don't know if this is related but u can try this: http://savvycareers.blogspot.com/2011/07/c...s-graduate.html apparently the oil & gas is getting hot for fresh graduates for the time being. QUOTE(OMG! @ Jul 9 2011, 10:34 AM) Would like to know whether ALL those who work as a project engineer or staffs mainly involved in technical services in Oil and Gas are all engineering graduates? Actually how many departments are available in an O&G company? Any management training program that accepts graduates like applied sciences(Chemistry or biochemistry) other than engineering graduates? |
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Jul 9 2011, 08:29 PM
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well my dad is an example.
he's a BSc grad from USA. got position as an engineer when he was first working. but mind u that he's a BSc in mechanical engineering... i don't know how do they come out with this "Bxx" shits during that time. but i get ur point.. basically, u need to study ENGINEERING to become an ENGINEER. cheers. QUOTE(OMG! @ Jul 9 2011, 07:57 PM) Well, i guess they are only looking for ENGINEERING graduates. any successful cases where grads from applied Science field get into engineering position? Or would the management training program which is offered by certain companies will actually train the grads( even from non-engineering fields, i mean basically a BSc degree like chemistry, biochemistry ,physics ) well to prepare them to enter the engineering position after this training? |
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Jul 24 2011, 03:08 AM
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wow...
so many post already... been busy for quite some time now. btw, mustang is hiring... the office at the icon is new too. cheers. |
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Aug 14 2011, 03:59 AM
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Aug 28 2011, 05:05 PM
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i have a fren there.
don't really sure bout the perks & benefits though. but y fren seems pretty happy there. previously he was with bumi armada, but quit less than 1 yr. since then been with east101. QUOTE(preakzz @ Aug 24 2011, 11:50 PM) Anyone ever heard of East One-Zero-One Sdn Bhd? I have applied for process engineer there and would like to know more about this company. Went to their website at www.east101.com already but it's better if anyone who really know about the company can share about it here. Thanks in advance! Added on August 28, 2011, 5:07 pmlast time MMHE minimum requirement is 2.75. not sure whether they're still hiring or not. some more bought yard & staff from SDE... QUOTE(figuremeout @ Aug 16 2011, 02:26 PM) This post has been edited by lovebattery: Aug 28 2011, 05:07 PM |
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