QUOTE(mules @ Dec 30 2010, 05:42 PM)
The bronze/Silver community, looking
The bronze/Silver community, looking
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Dec 31 2010, 11:05 AM
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QUOTE(mules @ Dec 30 2010, 05:42 PM) |
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Dec 31 2010, 11:59 AM
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Dec 31 2010, 12:25 PM
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QUOTE(Grimm @ Dec 30 2010, 09:49 PM) LOL! Your analysis is super accurate! lol , pls don do that on platinum level and above ahha... u will die miserably to their 2 gate rush/ 2 rax / roach rushBut I'm starting to beat the crap out of the top silvers and top golds after reading about stylo toss opening on TL. 15 Nexus. Period. By the time the game reaches the 10th min mark, I have roughly the same amount of army as the 1 base player. At 12 mins, I have more plus upgrades and collossi. At 15 mins, I have 3rd and 4th base and mapcontrol =/ This is vs bronze/silvers |
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Dec 31 2010, 01:18 PM
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Dec 31 2010, 02:08 PM
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QUOTE(Koroster @ Dec 31 2010, 12:05 PM) Ur Terran is more than enuf 2 take him down. Your rank's actually platinium based on ur skill. You're just scared they will kick u away from this thread! That's why u almost never ladder come, let you try my latest built order courtesy of realz. |
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Dec 31 2010, 02:25 PM
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koroster is the that day the zergy that play with u lo~ using my ID =D
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Dec 31 2010, 03:25 PM
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looking for ppl to play with now...pls add me and play with me =) GnoMey #914
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Dec 31 2010, 05:27 PM
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bronze here.. playing terran.. would wish some pro here to teach me
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Dec 31 2010, 05:42 PM
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QUOTE(Grimm @ Dec 30 2010, 09:49 PM) LOL! Your analysis is super accurate! Lol, the moment your expansion gets scouted, you can count on a units coming your way immediately. And theres no FFing the expansion ramp since that is usually hugeBut I'm starting to beat the crap out of the top silvers and top golds after reading about stylo toss opening on TL. 15 Nexus. Period. By the time the game reaches the 10th min mark, I have roughly the same amount of army as the 1 base player. At 12 mins, I have more plus upgrades and collossi. At 15 mins, I have 3rd and 4th base and mapcontrol =/ This is vs bronze/silvers |
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Jan 1 2011, 11:46 AM
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Aww, why so terasa all? No build order is perfect. I'm talking about how someone pointed out that newbies don't scout after the first. And they don't expo. This is a simple method to beat them lah. Why all the plat n diamonds all wanna criticize so much.
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Jan 1 2011, 12:19 PM
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QUOTE(Grimm @ Jan 1 2011, 12:46 PM) Aww, why so terasa all? No build order is perfect. I'm talking about how someone pointed out that newbies don't scout after the first. And they don't expo. This is a simple method to beat them lah. Why all the plat n diamonds all wanna criticize so much. +1This seriously works and we need more of this feedback. Seriously playing diamond and plat is no fun man, they are like insane Ai nightamare. Constant harrass, no mistake in macro, their !@#$ harvester is always more and their army is !@#$ more >.> cause they never queue and mineral always low although they are microing those !@#$ helion dancing at our minerals. not queue is so big man, i played a diamond toss, i think i did good with my mineral low, but 8 minutes point his army that comes just kept overwhelming me little by little. Watching replay i can only see his extra edge over me is just constantly warping on that 4 gate non stop and his mineral never ever above 200. yeah he kept poke my choke threatening me with that forcefield that says come and i cut ur army in half and to mess me up on macro. Off course he stomped my base when his army is of sufficient size. I know he is just macro challenge me but seriously frustrated la |
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Jan 1 2011, 02:41 PM
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@@ u got chances to play with diamond huh~ >.<a
facing gold n plat now~ hard time~ .. |
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Jan 1 2011, 04:06 PM
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Well yeah. Haha. I have problems constantly warping out 4gates as well. And if I remember my gates, I forget about my pylons. When I remember both of those, I forget about my robo. By the time I remember all 3? Main base mined out, 3rd base not yet up! Pah!!
But I guess this is the problems of silver/gold already. Bronzies still need to know how to keep worker count up. |
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Jan 1 2011, 04:44 PM
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not u only yo~ me also hav problem with that~ =D
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Jan 1 2011, 04:54 PM
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QUOTE(Grimm @ Dec 30 2010, 09:49 PM) LOL! Your analysis is super accurate! It works though. Just make sure that you don't get scouted early. Distract them by planting a pylon or cannon rushing them. When you're buying time, you can safely plant a nexus. Of course, there's a risk to it. Proper cannon placements below the ramp is your best bet early on.But I'm starting to beat the crap out of the top silvers and top golds after reading about stylo toss opening on TL. 15 Nexus. Period. By the time the game reaches the 10th min mark, I have roughly the same amount of army as the 1 base player. At 12 mins, I have more plus upgrades and collossi. At 15 mins, I have 3rd and 4th base and mapcontrol =/ This is vs bronze/silvers |
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Jan 1 2011, 05:17 PM
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I decided to log onto my sea account which I left at silver just to have some fun =) Played a few games and I noticed quite a few differences between bronze/silver level and the higher levels. So in my last game, I decided to "toy" around with my opponent a little to see what I could spot. My opponent happened to be zerg.
I threw everything at him, like proxy pylons, pheonix harress, dts and so on, while massing an army just to see how he would react. Heres what i noticed: 1. He didn't scout his base for proxys. I could have ended the game there and then if i went 4 gate and warped in an army right behind his mineral line 2. He over reacted to my pheonix harress. After the initial harress, i noticed a hydralisk den and a spire going down. Seeing this, I just had to go collossus or high templars. 3. No scouting after the initial scouting 4. Careless placements of overlords. My pheonix were able to kill abut 10 overlords at least. 5. No detectors, allowing me to rape his base with dts 6. Moving his entire army at once just because i had some stalkers in his natural, allowing me to take out his expansion with ease. 7. Not changing army composition even when i sent a collossus to "scout". It died =( Now, this guy may be just one person, but I believe that these points are the common mistakes that most people make at bronze/silver level. Hope i could help |
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Jan 1 2011, 05:46 PM
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QUOTE(Something Else @ Jan 1 2011, 05:17 PM) I decided to log onto my sea account which I left at silver just to have some fun =) Played a few games and I noticed quite a few differences between bronze/silver level and the higher levels. So in my last game, I decided to "toy" around with my opponent a little to see what I could spot. My opponent happened to be zerg. although i nt Z player..but those are kind the mistake i make (mayb it goes to most bronze too) its like if my opponent initiated the harass 1st and i react to it, he jz switch tech...its lk i'm always 1 step behind him all the time...dats y nw the oni way i can win in bronze ladder is always 4 hellion harass him =.= i am a T player...I threw everything at him, like proxy pylons, pheonix harress, dts and so on, while massing an army just to see how he would react. Heres what i noticed: 1. He didn't scout his base for proxys. I could have ended the game there and then if i went 4 gate and warped in an army right behind his mineral line 2. He over reacted to my pheonix harress. After the initial harress, i noticed a hydralisk den and a spire going down. Seeing this, I just had to go collossus or high templars. 3. No scouting after the initial scouting 4. Careless placements of overlords. My pheonix were able to kill abut 10 overlords at least. 5. No detectors, allowing me to rape his base with dts 6. Moving his entire army at once just because i had some stalkers in his natural, allowing me to take out his expansion with ease. 7. Not changing army composition even when i sent a collossus to "scout". It died =( Now, this guy may be just one person, but I believe that these points are the common mistakes that most people make at bronze/silver level. Hope i could help |
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Jan 1 2011, 06:37 PM
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QUOTE(Koroster @ Dec 31 2010, 11:05 AM) Ur Terran is more than enuf 2 take him down. Your rank's actually platinium based on ur skill. You're just scared they will kick u away from this thread! That's why u almost never ladder Wrong, actually Mules macro is Diamond level already and his thor rush rape every Toss! |
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Jan 1 2011, 07:03 PM
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y quote me for geng?
im juz lucky la This post has been edited by ganick5461: Jan 1 2011, 07:04 PM |
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Jan 3 2011, 10:07 AM
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QUOTE(Something Else @ Jan 1 2011, 05:17 PM) I decided to log onto my sea account which I left at silver just to have some fun =) Played a few games and I noticed quite a few differences between bronze/silver level and the higher levels. So in my last game, I decided to "toy" around with my opponent a little to see what I could spot. My opponent happened to be zerg. why is he not dead on bold? lolI threw everything at him, like proxy pylons, pheonix harress, dts and so on, while massing an army just to see how he would react. Heres what i noticed: 1. He didn't scout his base for proxys. I could have ended the game there and then if i went 4 gate and warped in an army right behind his mineral line 2. He over reacted to my pheonix harress. After the initial harress, i noticed a hydralisk den and a spire going down. Seeing this, I just had to go collossus or high templars. 3. No scouting after the initial scouting 4. Careless placements of overlords. My pheonix were able to kill abut 10 overlords at least. 5. No detectors, allowing me to rape his base with dts 6. Moving his entire army at once just because i had some stalkers in his natural, allowing me to take out his expansion with ease. 7. Not changing army composition even when i sent a collossus to "scout". It died =( Now, this guy may be just one person, but I believe that these points are the common mistakes that most people make at bronze/silver level. Hope i could help |
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