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TSFLampard
post Dec 2 2010, 12:54 AM

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hi footballers, i just came back from a night game....i made a blunder this game...

the opponent was hurt in game, so we kick the ball out for him to be treated, then when the ball restart, referee ordered a fair play so our opponent throw in and kick the ball high up back towards our defensive third. I went up to collect the ball. It was a real high aerial ball. I chested the ball on the first touch and i saw their striker charging at me... I was a bit panic since i was the last man standing before the goalkeeper and the second touch after i chested was a desperate clear with my left foot. Becoz its my left foot....so it didnt went far, it went straight towards an opponent player and they counter attacked.


The problem is i dun really understand the fair play rules, since its a fair play , aren't we allowed to control the ball properly first before they made any attempt to regain possession? Shouldn't he allow me to play the ball on the ground first before charging at me ? =.=" I didn't know and didnt want to take the risk so i just clear it desperately.

Cause he charged at me when the ball is in the air, even before i chested the ball. It was technically challenging becoz its a high aerial ball.



the question that i want to make it clear.


IF i didnt touch the ball and let it bounce, and he got the ball, will it be a foul (unsporting behavior)?


If he got the ball from me after i chested (before the ball touch the ground), will it be a foul (unsporting behavior)?



cause everytime i watch fair play on professional they usually wont pressure the defenders that control the ball....


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post Dec 2 2010, 12:58 AM

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there isn't a technical rule on foul in that case I think. he can challenge for the ball or whatever, but obviously he wouldn't be 'fair' even though there is no foul committed technically.

fair play is all about the spirit. he should allow the ball to be passed to your keeper. and play to resume from there or something. sounds like your opponent is a bit of a tosser. does he play for uruguay? ; p
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post Dec 2 2010, 01:06 AM

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QUOTE(FLampard @ Dec 2 2010, 12:54 AM)
hi footballers, i just came back from a night game....i made a blunder this game...

the opponent was hurt in game, so we kick the ball out for him to be treated, then when the ball restart, referee ordered a fair play so our opponent throw in and kick the ball high up back towards our defensive third. I went up to collect the ball. It was a real high aerial ball. I chested the ball on the first touch and i saw their striker charging at me... I was a bit panic since i was the last man standing before the goalkeeper and the second touch after i chested was a desperate clear with my left foot. Becoz its my left foot....so it didnt went far, it went straight towards an opponent player and they counter attacked.
The problem is i dun really understand the fair play rules, since its a fair play , aren't we allowed to control the ball properly first before they made any attempt to regain possession? Shouldn't he allow me to play the ball on the ground first before charging at me ? =.=" I didn't know and didnt want to take the risk so i just clear it desperately.

Cause he charged at me when the ball is in the air, even before i chested the ball. It was technically challenging becoz its a high aerial ball.
the question that i want to make it clear.
IF i didnt touch the ball and let it bounce, and he got the ball, will it be a foul (unsporting behavior)?
If he got the ball from me after i chested (before the ball touch the ground), will it be a foul (unsporting behavior)?
cause everytime i watch fair play on professional they usually wont pressure the defenders that control the ball....
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you said it yourself, those are professionals..not the one you played against (I guess)

and as soon as you chested the ball, means your team is in possesion of it just like before your opponent was hurt, and he is entitled to challenge you..just my opinion on that..yeah it may be unsporting, but I understand if the ref doesn't see it as a foul

This post has been edited by SGSuser: Dec 2 2010, 01:10 AM
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post Dec 2 2010, 01:08 AM

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QUOTE(katnl @ Dec 2 2010, 12:58 AM)
there isn't a technical rule on foul in that case I think. he can challenge for the ball or whatever, but obviously he wouldn't be 'fair' even though there is no foul committed technically.

fair play is all about the spirit. he should allow the ball to be passed to your keeper. and play to resume from there or something. sounds like your opponent is a bit of a tosser. does he play for uruguay? ; p
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QUOTE(SGSuser @ Dec 2 2010, 01:06 AM)
you said it yourself, those are professionals..not the one you played against (I guess)
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wth uruguay =.=

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post Dec 2 2010, 01:09 AM

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maybe he's friends with suarez. who knows. better wear a tough scarf next match yo.
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post Dec 2 2010, 01:12 AM

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or maybe you need a fifa ref to referee your next match laugh.gif
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post Dec 2 2010, 01:17 AM

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even FIFA ref won't be able to do anything. technically he's not committing a foul. the only thing TS can do next time they play is to do the same, no fair play for them. who cares if their players injured, take advantage of them completely. if they complain, point out this incident.
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post Dec 2 2010, 01:25 AM

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QUOTE(katnl @ Dec 2 2010, 01:17 AM)
even FIFA ref won't be able to do anything. technically he's not committing a foul. the only thing TS can do next time they play is to do the same, no fair play for them. who cares if their players injured, take advantage of them completely. if they complain, point out this incident.
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fifa ref will have better explanation to him laugh.gif

just play to the ref's whistle, if he doesnt blow then continue playing...unless you see the injured opponent has a weird looking leg or something
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post Dec 2 2010, 01:28 AM

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QUOTE(SGSuser @ Dec 2 2010, 01:25 AM)
fifa ref will have better explanation to him laugh.gif

just play to the ref's whistle, if he doesnt blow then continue playing...unless you see the injured opponent has a weird looking leg or something
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don't think the referee is obliged 100% to blow even if opposition injured. it's kind of a subjective point in FIFA rules, subject to referee discretion. most times, it's the player themselves who play fairly and kick the ball out so that the injured can get treatment or leave the field. then play is given back to the team last in possession.

playing to ref's whistle can be unfair sometimes and cynical. like United against Spurs. clearly it's a matter of fair play or not. professional does not equal fair too.
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post Dec 2 2010, 01:31 AM

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so theres no fair play rules after all. =.=
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post Dec 2 2010, 01:33 AM

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no, there isn't.
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post Dec 2 2010, 03:39 AM

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Theres no fair play in Malaysia.
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post Dec 2 2010, 09:51 AM

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Teams have been using the so-called fair play to their advantage in some of the games I've seen. They just purposely kick the ball out at the very edge of the opponents half, so that the opponents will have a throw in at their own half. When the opponents take the throw in, they will put pressure & sometimes will get back possession.

There's nothing much U can do about that, becoz it's not a written rule. It's just courtesy.
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post Dec 2 2010, 10:27 AM

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instead of arguing about the fairplay system,why don't we talk about techincal stuff a bit.

next time learn to clear the ball properly.

LOL.just kidding.tongue.gif

if it's really high ball,why don't you just head it@let the ball bounce on the field first?
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post Dec 2 2010, 11:10 AM

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Fair play is too subjective to even discuss about because there's no proper ruleset. All comes down to the player to judge.

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post Dec 2 2010, 01:44 PM

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QUOTE(sickx @ Dec 2 2010, 10:27 AM)
instead of arguing about the fairplay system,why don't we talk about techincal stuff a bit.

next time learn to clear the ball properly.

LOL.just kidding.tongue.gif

if it's really high ball,why don't you just head it@let the ball bounce on the field first?
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if i let it bounce then die liao, the striker can get it easily, i was confuse that time, i thought im suppose to be allowed to play the ball on the ground first at least....b4 he comes, or let me pass to the keeper first...
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post Dec 2 2010, 02:29 PM

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i have seen Selangor team clearly indicating that they will stop play and kick the ball out due to their own player's injury...

everyones stops play anticipating him to kick it out.. he kicked it high cross field towards the touch line ..but "miscues" it and the ball stayed in and received by another Selangor player on the far side...

to the horror of the opponent, insted of passing the ball out, he start to attack from there while the defensive line all over the place already stopped playing...

he passed the back to center.. 1 on 1 with keeper...goal..

needless to say they claimed no whistle from the referee...

thats profesional football for you..

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post Dec 2 2010, 02:49 PM

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leave it to GK is always good option, or even all defender and GK can leave the high ball until it goes out then u can have goal kick, we always do that in this situation
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u defender? high ball coming let it bounce first. the striker come at you if you cannot tahan then grapple with him and fall down and hold the ball. most of it he get fk. if not he foul u get fk. lol
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post Dec 2 2010, 10:23 PM

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screw him bah, confront him, push his chest and start fighting, when ref ask, tell ref about it. problem solve.

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