pls advice.

budget???

no budget , how about LED tv

LCD if u play a lot DVD, Bluray , games..

Plasma if for football. lcd can watch too, but u need to fork out at least 4K++ to get the model with at least 100Hz which normally xpensive.. normal lcd oni 50-60Hz oni..

watch astro

astro sports package most of time , go for plasma. ; or if got many cash go for LED/LCD with at least 100Hz..

coz many lcd below 2K out there oni 50Hz. not syioj watching fast games like real, barca etc.. got trail..

LG 42" 200 hz only rm2899...Sharp n LG 100hz only around rm2400-2600. Yes, it's LCD

LED

LCD with LED backlight

LED will fill the market soon. More slim/ stylish.

anyone pls recommend, lcd or plasma? my budget is 3k and not more. pls suggest me a brand, models and tell me if the pros and cons pls.

i read somewhere ppl said Hz is just marketing stuff..

Y TS so lazy browsing? still want to start a new thread? Lazy bump!!!

Why don't those who are unsure go check out the difference between LCD, Plasma, and LED with their own eyes? 9 out of 10 of my walk-in customers tell me LCD is better because they hear people telling them that. I have these TVs put side-by-side with default settings. Without telling which TV is which, I ask them to choose the one they think is LCD. Most of them will mistaken Plasma as LCD because they like the PQ of Plasma better. That say, at the end of the day it boils down to your own preference. Maybe you like the bright colour of LCD which to some is tiring to look at for long hours. Maybe you like the natural colour of Plasma. Maybe you like to show off to your guests how thin your LED TV hung on your wall is. You really have to do your own comparison as everyone's likings are different.

Different people different like. For me I ready cannot take plasma even it is 1080HD as I can spot plasma got old type TV render style if you look carefully and it always can't fight LCD in PQ.

I know some low end LCD got ghost trail issue but most higher newer LCD eliminate most this issue.

Thanks got LCD/LED as plasma never satisfied me.

This post has been edited by Andrewtst: Dec 6 2010, 02:18 AM

9 out of 10? Surely can't be that much because I thought worldwide sales figures is in favor of the LCD?

IMO, 9 out of 10 who walk into a store doing not much study and analysis will pick the LCD.

On the other hand, those who really takes their time like carefully watching each and every TV available for long time....say....solid 10 minutes on 1 TV instead of just glancing it may pick the Plasma. And the TV programs are mainly movies (especially movies with dark scene) and not cartoon or games. Ya, I suppose I am talking about picky customer like myself.

BTW, I recently went into a store with lots of naturally sunlight coming in, the LCD looks much much better than Plasma. And this is coming from a person who is 100% Plasma follower.

Now LED is much much better than LCD.

As many had said, its very individual preference, similar to picking a car.

If you like very sharp, bright and to me unrealistic clear pictures, then go with LED/LCD

If you like soft, real (cinema mode and not drama like picture quality, which is superb clear like video recording) and like to fast fast moving pictures, like soccer, fast moving scenes like in avatar while the dragons are flying then go with Plasma.

Then can be easily compared, when you walk to the Store, just ask them to play the last part of movie, where the title names would be scrolling, just compare both LCD and Plasma, and you would know the difference between 600Hz and 100Hz

I didnt like LED/LCD becoz to me it was superbly clear (very artificial), and movies had drama feelings.

Hey, both are good TVs different people have diff taste...

I not agreed with you. Worldwide sales figures is not in favour of the type but rather the selling price of the products. The more cheaper the product, the better the overall sales is. Go to check recently sales figure at US market.

Agreed it's individual preference. I prefer plasma coz I can see ghosting very easily on an LCD, but in the end, bought LCD becoz my budget did not allow me to get my preferred Full HD plasma.

It is my personal opinion that if you want to go plasma, go Full HD @1920x1080. Anything less is a waste of money.

Not true. This is just your assumption. All TV buyers do their own research.

Give it 3 more years, plasma will disappear, Given it another 5 years, only LED will in the market, no more LCD. All this due to global consumer preference and technological development driving commercial viability. 3DTV, LaserTV, holographicTV will come in the next 20 years.

Same thing happened when the CD replaced the LP and DVD replaced VCR.

This post has been edited by AVFAN: Dec 7 2010, 10:33 PM

Those 200Hz and 100Hz does nothing. Absolute no difference. Only those like Philips HD NaturalMotion, new Sharp LED with 100Hz(not the old 2k plus LCD) and SONY motionflow shows real improvement.

Samsung and LG 100/200/xxx Hz does nothing.

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Added on December 7, 2010, 10:19 pmNope. Depends on which brand and model. Those that works, really superb...better than watching at Cinema!!!

This post has been edited by Matrix: Dec 7 2010, 10:19 PM

Wrong analogy, mate, because you are talking whats coming in the future, but we are discussing here what we have at this point in time. LED or OLED might be the future, but it aint here yet. It doesnt make any difference with what you purchase now and the future....

To my eyes, 100Hz makes a difference when playing DVD or Astro normal. For HD input like 720/1080p and BeYond 1080i, I see no difference.

This post has been edited by AVFAN: Dec 7 2010, 10:39 PM

The 200Hz is noticable, but the movement looks "fake".

From my personal experience, just for general reference, not fact though...

LCD/LED
TVs are much brighter.
Colours are saturated and catchy, good for drawing attention.
Very crisp clear and sharp
Higher end has better motion flow control
Slim and sexy design
Good for PC and games than cinematic movies

Plasma
Natural colours, may look dull beside LCD
Smooth motion, good dark scene
Render SD better, especially on Astro
Suit dark room viewing
Gentle on eyes for long viewing
Good for movie and sports

My two cents....

I thought plasma is better than LCD and there is no more argument bout that??? Ppl told me LCD runs by liquid thus it moves slower than plasma which act as a normal TV but just crystal clear.... in terms of quality, resolution, clarity....plasma wins everything rite?

@liez

I thought so too bro. Now, I'm all confused after reading all these since I'm still using my CRT tv.

I wanna watch FullHD movies, football game and being able to play PS3/XBOX with satisfaction. Now I dunno which one to get since I'm planning to get one.

LED is tv is out of my budget. Too pricey at the moment. All I heard from ppl is that it's the best so far.

I'm thinking of getting one with the abovementioned preferences with RM 4k budget. Which one should I get now?

Need help.. Thanks in advance guys.

Senheng doing promotion for samsung UA40C6200 now...RM3299 is im not mistaken

and regarding the Hz thg....depends wheter u rly like it or not.for me i dun really prefer it,the movement is like more fake rather than real,still used to 60Hz.and if u do gaming,on game mode,the tv will always limit to 50Hz anyway

i choose plasma!!!

Individual preference. I dun like plasma. If got money, i buy full array LED like those new Sharps.

Yes, LED is much better than LCD but so much more expensive. A lot of things boil down to budget.

I had the same question too...
ended up with an LCD LED

Plasma was not for me because :

1) Reflection on the screen ( Plasma good for dark rooms )
2) Energy consumption is higher
3) Heavier

Those undecided can perhaps check my HDTV Blog here to get a general idea. Hope it will help a little. Not for the expects here but for the laymen only.

Led TV

watch astro on lcd , picture not nice.

Why until this day and age, still got people expect SD transmission to look nice on a FullHD LCD panel??

Maybe people expect or think that Full HD panel can magically transform SD to become Full HD quality

In reality the average joe doesn't understand issues about resolution.

I got 2 LCD and one 50inch plasma in my house
for my personal opinion
if I got lots of money I will go for Led if I would like to show off to my fren that I got a ultra thin flat panel in my living hall
but I don like the picture in LED as it's too bright, the picture as if computer graphic
I feel comfortable in my theater room with the plasma tv
if you put plasma in living hall it's not that suitable as plasma tv works perfect in dim room
LCD works perfect in bright room
for gaming and movie in theater room
go for plasma
for gaming and movie in living hall
go for LCD
that's my personal opinion
finally it all depend our budget and personal preference
bear in mind that the brighter the tv goes, the shorter the life span
eventually you must look at the life span of the LCD or plasma
try to get extra warranty for the tv
my Phillis LCD got problem after 1 year
my plasma after one year still work perfect
luckily I got 3years warranty for my LCD
5 years warranty for my Panasonic 50inch plasma for just rm4750

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Added on December 19, 2010, 10:17 amby the way
don buy HD ready
as it's waste your money
but full HD
it just difference 200 to 300


This post has been edited by tathoumse07: Dec 19 2010, 10:17 AM

Where to get 5 year warranty nowadays? Your plasma is like few years back where Panasonic still honored 5 year warranty. Now, all cut cost, warranty period also cut....haiz

Ya, the major disadvantage of Plasma are screen reflectiveness and energy consumption (need better ventilation because it can get pretty hot at the rear).

As for heavier, it's not a problem because I am not in the habit of moving my TV around everyday. Heck, I don't even move them once a year or 2 years or ......

Ultimately, for me, it boils down to what I wanted and how much I am willing to spend. I wanted best Picture Quality for movies, so it just have to be the Plasma and definitely not the LCD. Also I wanted to spend <RM4K for a 50", it again has to be a Plasma because LED will increase budget by 50%.

I bought early of this year
the warranty directly from Panasonic
try to ask from direct Panasonic dealer
if not you only can get extra warranty from insurance company
shengheng also offer 5 years warranty but it's from insurance company

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Added on December 19, 2010, 10:54 ambro
where can get a 50inch plasma full HD less than 4k
what brand?
thank you

This post has been edited by tathoumse07: Dec 19 2010, 10:54 AM

Yes, you can always get extended warranty from Panasonic themselves or buy extended insurance from any of those electrical shop selling you the TV. I prefers Panasonic own warranty (<RM300 for 3 years, making a total of 5 years).

Panasonic 50U Full HD is around RM3.5K to RM4K. Depending where you buy them from.

nowadays is low price,50" full hd plasma for panasonic and samsung also below 4k

This post has been edited by ngboonaun: Dec 19 2010, 11:03 AM

Yap, that's the exact conclusion I came before I bought my Plasma because mine will be used 100% for movies/Astro/DVD and no gaming and I am typically free in the evening when the sun are down to watch them.

For room with lots of bright sunlight and to impress visitor, LED is definitely the better choice. So IMO, LCD is a neither here nor there choice.

u watching movies for up and down with black bar?u zoom it or with original setting?

With new Plasma until after 200 hours, I make sure there are no black bar anywhere when watching programs.

y must after 200 hours

I'm still very headache of choosing TV. I more on watching movies in a dark room.

So should i choose plasma ? and budget around Rm2k. What size will i get?

u can get panasonic 46" plasma

Ya, it's a headache so I am running mine 24/7 continuously non-stop for the 7 or 8 days using break in program. I even have a tiny fan blowing it for extra ventilation. I reckon, if the TV gonna breaks, may as well break within 7 days to claim for 1 to 1 replacement.

u means after 200 hrs.no risk for black bar movies?no burn in problems anymore

This post has been edited by ngboonaun: Dec 19 2010, 12:11 PM

Taken from Samsung FAQ

Break-In is the time period from when a Plasma set is brand new until the plasma phosphors have aged (or hardened), to a point where it is less susceptible to image retention (IR). Phosphors are their "hottest" when new. You may notice when passing by a new plasma set that it gives off a lot of heat but runs cooler after 100 or so hours of use. During this break-in period, burn-in can occur more easily.


I was told during the break in period, different mono-color video slides are used to ensure even aging of Phosphor. After the initial 100 - 200 hours, image retention will be reduced though not completely eliminated. But who got patience to wait 100 hours when you have a new toy?

Just use the plasma normally with no black bars or static images like PC content or logos for first 150-200hrs and you will be fine with orbiter (or equivalent) turned on

Should not be an issue unless you watch nothing but 4:3 or 21:9 day in day out

This post has been edited by specuvestor: Dec 21 2010, 12:25 PM

I couldn't find the pixel orbiter anywhere on my Panasonic 50U. Am I missing something?

No, I believe it on by default on the panny.

That is assuring. Thanks.

So am I being a paranoid having to try breaking in my new Plasma with mono-color slides? Or can I stop at 100 hours?