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TSFLampard
post Nov 30 2010, 12:05 AM, updated 16y ago

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Today i was talking with a friend that studies sport science and he showed me his research.... research on how to improve players throw in ability. According to him, not many football players can throw in very well because this skill is underestimated and under-trained. A lot of team dont look at this as an essential skill.

"Just look at Delap, how many premier league players can throw like him? Delap is shit, he cant play crap, they want him just for throw ins. If we can produce a player to throw like him, he'll start every game."

There was a saying for defenders if you're stuck, just put the ball out for a throw, but if you're up against Delap, you won't give away cheap throw ins, because for him every throw in is like a cross


So for me, its true, all the teams i played with, from secondary to now.... none of them work on their throw ins, in fact if you look at our lower division football leagues, players tends to make a lot of mistakes with throw ins... always foul throw.

I have almost never seen a team train on throw ins.

It seems a lot of teams don't think throw ins are important neither do they train to improve it.


I think football players that are reading this thread should train your throw in skills more often...
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post Nov 30 2010, 12:16 AM

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QUOTE(FLampard @ Nov 30 2010, 12:05 AM)
Today i was talking with a friend that studies sport science and he showed me his research.... research on how to improve players throw in ability. According to him, not many football players can throw in very well because this skill is underestimated and under-trained. A lot of team dont look at this as an essential skill.

"Just look at Delap, how many premier league players can throw like him? Delap is shit, he cant play crap, they want him just for throw ins. If we can produce a player to throw like him, he'll start every game."

There was a saying for defenders if you're stuck, just put the ball out for a throw, but if you're up against Delap, you won't give away cheap throw ins, because for him every throw in is like a cross
So for me, its true, all the teams i played with, from secondary to now.... none of them work on their throw ins, in fact if you look at our lower division football leagues, players tends to make a lot of mistakes with throw ins... always foul throw.

I have almost never seen a team train on throw ins.

It seems a lot of teams don't think throw ins are important neither do they train to improve it.
I think football players that are reading this thread should train your throw in skills more often...
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Good stuff man,I like these football threads that talk bout real life football thumbup.gif

How to train throw-ins?Thought it's all just rather the same
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post Nov 30 2010, 12:22 AM

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The moment i see this thread, first person i think of is Rory Delap.

With regards to throw in, i wouldn't say big team don't have the expertise to throw like Delap. There's no real science behind Delap's rocket throw. Just the right strength and technique when launching the ball. The real question is, is there a need to throw like he does and is there players to head in from the rocket throw in. I don't know about others but teams like Arsenal always favour short throw ins. Firstly, they don't have big burly strikers like Stoke City to attack throw ins. Arsenal has always relied on speedy,skillful and technical players in the attacking front. Therefore, they're ball players who prefer to play on the ground rather than on the air. Stoke on the other hand play it to their strength and when i say that, i meant their strength and physique literally. That being said, what they lack technically, they make it up with muscle power and height.

I think Stoke's goal rate from such rocket throw ins are quite decent. Nevertheless, it does not mean its a sure fire way of scoring goals as statistically speaking, teams that score the most in a season like Chelsea, Man Utd and Arsenal never relied on rocket throw to score.


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post Nov 30 2010, 12:25 AM

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In the local social / casual leagues, just taking proper throw-in without the ref blowing for a foul is challenging enough :-D
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post Nov 30 2010, 12:25 AM

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QUOTE(giotto @ Nov 30 2010, 12:22 AM)
The moment i see this thread, first person i think of is Rory Delap.

With regards to throw in, i wouldn't say big team don't have the expertise to throw like Delap. There's no real science behind Delap's rocket throw. Just the right strength and technique when launching the ball. The real question is, is there a need to throw like he does and is there players to head in from the rocket throw in. I don't know about others but teams like Arsenal always favour short throw ins.  Firstly, they don't have big burly strikers like Stoke City to attack throw ins.  Arsenal has always relied on speedy,skillful and technical players in the attacking front. Therefore, they're ball players who prefer to play on the ground rather than on the air.  Stoke on the other hand play it to their strength and when i say that, i meant their strength and physique literally.  That being said, what they lack technically, they make it up with muscle power and height.

I think Stoke's goal rate from such rocket throw ins are quite decent.  Nevertheless, it does not mean its a sure fire way of scoring goals as statistically speaking, teams that score the most in a season like Chelsea, Man Utd and Arsenal never relied on rocket throw to score.
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Agreed,how many times have we actually seen Stoke score from Delap's throw in?Only once against Liverpool,if I'm not mistaken it was the first out of 23 games.. laugh.gif
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QUOTE(miketee @ Nov 30 2010, 12:25 AM)
In the local social / casual leagues, just taking proper throw-in without the ref blowing for a foul is challenging enough :-D
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i agree tongue.gif
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post Nov 30 2010, 12:37 AM

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For me, i think only smaller teams opt for long throw ins. I mean, if you have the quality of Manchester United, Arsenal , you could have easily pass the ball into the one of the players field, start your passing games, and penetrate through defends.

But for smaller teams like maybe Stoke City? They don't get that much chance to go forward. So they rely on those set pieces. And apparently, they figured that long throws are rather similar to free kicks.
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I think Delap is not the first in attempting such rocket throw ins. I remember Liverpool and John Arne Risse using such throws ins to great effect, similarly Bolton's former hero, Jay Jay Okocha is pretty good at it too.

But if you ask me, i find it quite irritating that each time Stoke gets a throw in, the ballboy would hand a towel to Delap and he'd polish the ball before throwing it. That's 30 seconds. Imagine they get 10 or so throws in vital areas thruought the game.
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QUOTE(bigbangformula @ Nov 30 2010, 12:25 AM)
Agreed,how many times have we actually seen Stoke score from Delap's throw in?Only once against Liverpool,if I'm not mistaken it was the first out of 23 games..  laugh.gif
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There are 11 lone last season in which 8 of matches with the crucial throw in was a victory. 2 matches of them were against Arsenal and another win against Manchester city. Its very scary if you look at it.

theres a board down there...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rory_Delap

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post Nov 30 2010, 01:20 AM

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yo i was trying to say that throw in is an important skill and footballer should work on it and not think its not important. Imagine if all you can throw like delap, everytime you take throw in your opponent will sweat dealing with it.

Stoke doesnt score much from Delap's throw in doesnt mean it is not a threat to the defense.

its a big advantage.

about how to improve throw ins, u need strong core balance, arm and back muscle. u need a good flexibility and lastly proper technique.

and make sure the ball is NOT wet. The last time i played a game while it was raining. My fingers slipped when taking throw in. The ball fell to the ground IN THE field. The opponents appealed to the ref but the ref said play on, but when i took it didnt went far becoz its slippery.

if anyone here knows the secret to long throw ins, plz do share.

This post has been edited by FLampard: Nov 30 2010, 01:21 AM
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post Nov 30 2010, 01:59 AM

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well a good throw in need great body coordination - the power starts from feet to body and to arms for a great rocket throw. It's not just only about hand power.
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post Nov 30 2010, 07:56 AM

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QUOTE(Belphegor @ Nov 30 2010, 07:56 AM)

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I guess if u don't have enough strong arms then u might consider this kind of throw-in. Focusing on technique, the motion of your body accelerates the ball but lack accuracy. And the ball went upwards and slow down by mid air, if she can improved it by rocketing that speed (don't make it rainbow)...it's deadly too.

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not really related. Gomes (GK of Spurs) love to use throw a ball rather than using his kick. his long throw able to cross the half way line and i believe its more accurate than his kick.

but it seem he's cut it out these days..
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post Nov 30 2010, 08:39 AM

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QUOTE(giotto @ Nov 30 2010, 12:58 AM)
But if you ask me, i find it quite irritating that each time Stoke gets a throw in, the ballboy would hand a towel to Delap and he'd polish the ball before throwing it. That's 30 seconds. Imagine they get 10 or so throws in vital areas thruought the game.
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that's the problem i have too watching the rocket throw in by Delap. since it's something like a free kick to Stoke, just imagine players are allowed to mop around 30 seconds for a free kick in the middle of the field, sure get a caution.

rocket throws are all right, by my books. but don't take such a long time to wax the ball until it sparkles.
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rocket throws ... didn't arsene comment on that awhile ago ... not surprising, considering arsenal's weakness, that is dealing with set pieces ...

it's surprising that not that many teams try to master this trick ... it's like a free cross whenever you get a throw in ...
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post Nov 30 2010, 09:20 AM

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delap is a javelin thrower in his youth.
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QUOTE(FLampard @ Nov 30 2010, 01:20 AM)
yo i was trying to say that throw in is an important skill and footballer should work on it and not think its not important. Imagine if all you can throw like delap, everytime you take throw in your opponent will sweat dealing with it.

Stoke doesnt score much from Delap's throw in doesnt mean it is not a threat to the defense.

its a big advantage.

about how to improve throw ins, u need strong core balance, arm and back muscle. u need a good flexibility and lastly proper technique.

and make sure the ball is NOT wet. The last time i played a game while it was raining. My fingers slipped when taking throw in. The ball fell to the ground IN THE field. The opponents appealed to the ref but the ref said play on, but when i took it didnt went far becoz its slippery.

if anyone here knows the secret to long throw ins, plz do share.
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so that's the reason of he "cleaning" the ball with a cloth every time before he throws it?
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post Nov 30 2010, 02:29 PM

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QUOTE(dlct87 @ Nov 30 2010, 01:54 PM)
so that's the reason of he "cleaning" the ball with a cloth every time before he throws it?
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yes, that was the most awkward moment in all the times i take throw ins....


when i was about to release, the ball slipped cause its wet and slippery....
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Lol it gets pretty annoying though when u always see him take a cloth and gently wipe the ball before he throws it laugh.gif

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