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post Nov 30 2010, 02:49 PM

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QUOTE(bigbangformula @ Nov 30 2010, 02:47 PM)
Lol it gets pretty annoying though when u always see him take a cloth and gently wipe the ball before he throws it  laugh.gif
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he loved balls lol laugh.gif

and i also noticed that most of the time its the LB,or RB will take the throw ins, coincidence? or just a norm?
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post Nov 30 2010, 02:59 PM

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norm, because RM/LM offer better in offensive
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post Nov 30 2010, 03:01 PM

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yes, as most of the time, the ball from throw ins will connect to midfielders, therefore using fullbacks are more efficient.

If a midfielder is throwing the ball, the other midfielder will have to receive it, which will reduce the width of the midfield lines.

if the ball thrown was threaten by opposing players, the receiver can always pass it back to the thrower and spray/control the ball.

Just my opinion based on my logic.
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post Nov 30 2010, 06:59 PM

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I am one of those guilty ones who thought throw ins are simply throwing the ball from behind the head, until i played in a proper league games this year. It's crazy, even when in your mind you know when to release, and what to avoid, you still cant help but do foul throws during match. Ball cant release too soon, cant release too slow, cant loop, cant be downwards, cant spin it etc.

In a normal game, especially in Malaysia where there's no proper referee looking over you, you wont realize you made a mistake coz other players also not too sure about that as well. But in Australia where i played in the South Australia Amateur Soccer League, there's proper referee registered, and my oh my....i try to avoid taking throws myself.

To be honest, some of the short throws by the players, even in EPL, looks like a foul to me. I think because for them, it's the least of their worry and referee wouldn't be too bothered with those coz they have much more important fouls to look out for. But in amateur or semi-professional leagues, dei....give away so many possesion due to foul throws sweat.gif

Indeed, not easy to do.


Added on November 30, 2010, 7:02 pm
QUOTE(FLampard @ Nov 30 2010, 12:05 AM)

I have almost never seen a team train on throw ins.

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Our team gave away soooooo many foul throws especially in the first few games of the season, out coach asks us to do training drills involving throw ins as well laugh.gif

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post Nov 30 2010, 07:15 PM

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QUOTE(pyroboy1911 @ Nov 30 2010, 06:59 PM)
I am one of those guilty ones who thought throw ins are simply throwing the ball from behind the head, until i played in a proper league games this year. It's crazy, even when in your mind you know when to release, and what to avoid, you still cant help but do foul throws during match. Ball cant release too soon, cant release too slow, cant loop, cant be downwards, cant spin it etc.

In a normal game, especially in Malaysia where there's no proper referee looking over you, you wont realize you made a mistake coz other players also not too sure about that as well. But in Australia where i played in the South Australia Amateur Soccer League, there's proper referee registered, and my oh my....i try to avoid taking throws myself.

To be honest, some of the short throws by the players, even in EPL, looks like a foul to me. I think because for them, it's the least of their worry and referee wouldn't be too bothered with those coz they have much more important fouls to look out for. But in amateur or semi-professional leagues, dei....give away so many possesion due to foul throws sweat.gif

Indeed, not easy to do.


Added on November 30, 2010, 7:02 pm

Our team gave away soooooo many foul throws especially in the first few games of the season, out coach asks us to do training drills involving throw ins as well laugh.gif
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wtf u have a chance to play at oversea leagues..... i am jealous cause those are my dreams.


btw Australian football standard isnt that high actually ( to be real honest) , they are better known for rugby.
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post Nov 30 2010, 07:22 PM

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QUOTE(FLampard @ Nov 30 2010, 07:15 PM)
wtf u have a chance to play at oversea leagues..... i am jealous cause those are my dreams.
btw Australian football standard isnt that high actually ( to be real honest) , they are better known for rugby.
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coz im studying overseas sweat.gif

well the football league here have many tiers, and the ones i played in are quite low actually hehe...our team is basically the uni team, and most of our members are overseas students, half from Malaysia/Singapore and the rest are either locals or Europeans. We cant match the other teams on strength and size, i mean...i jump to try to head the ball still cant beat their centre back laugh.gif so we rely on good passing and speed wink.gif and tired out the older farts in the second half.

But i guess playing against tougher opponents who wouldnt hesitate in giving you a run for your money does make u develop. I mean...in Malaysia i wouldnt have to worry of a 100kg, 1.8m defender coming in and barge me tongue.gif
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QUOTE(pyroboy1911 @ Nov 30 2010, 07:22 PM)
coz im studying overseas  sweat.gif

well the football league here have many tiers, and the ones i played in are quite low actually hehe...our team is basically the uni team, and most of our members are overseas students, half from Malaysia/Singapore and the rest are either locals or Europeans. We cant match the other teams on strength and size, i mean...i jump to try to head the ball still cant beat their centre back laugh.gif so we rely on good passing and speed wink.gif and tired out the older farts in the second half.

But i guess playing against tougher opponents who wouldnt hesitate in giving you a run for your money does make u develop. I mean...in Malaysia i wouldnt have to worry of a 100kg, 1.8m defender coming in and barge me tongue.gif
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im feeling the agony for not choosing a twinning program to go oversea now.

thank u mate
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post Nov 30 2010, 08:39 PM

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australians like this 'fun' sport called aussie rules, which from my one and only time playing it some uni mates, is a game in which you can do anything to the person carrying with the ball. To say that is was a bruising experience was an understatement.
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post Nov 30 2010, 09:28 PM

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QUOTE(pyroboy1911 @ Nov 30 2010, 07:22 PM)
coz im studying overseas  sweat.gif

well the football league here have many tiers, and the ones i played in are quite low actually hehe...our team is basically the uni team, and most of our members are overseas students, half from Malaysia/Singapore and the rest are either locals or Europeans. We cant match the other teams on strength and size, i mean...i jump to try to head the ball still cant beat their centre back laugh.gif so we rely on good passing and speed wink.gif and tired out the older farts in the second half.

But i guess playing against tougher opponents who wouldnt hesitate in giving you a run for your money does make u develop. I mean...in Malaysia i wouldnt have to worry of a 100kg, 1.8m defender coming in and barge me tongue.gif
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Sounds fun biggrin.gif I bet the playing field there is nice and smooth right?The ones in Malaysia are bad.. laugh.gif


QUOTE(madmoz @ Nov 30 2010, 08:39 PM)
australians like this 'fun' sport called aussie rules, which from my one and only time playing it some uni mates, is a game in which you can do anything to the person carrying with the ball. To say that is was a bruising experience was an understatement.
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Lol played that before,damn it was rough laugh.gif
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post Nov 30 2010, 10:00 PM

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i like long throw ins.it really shows the team weaknesses in set plays

besides throw in got no offsides.just like backpasses from hell
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post Nov 30 2010, 10:18 PM

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I remember my school's football tournament, both team's players took 6 foul throws CONTINUOUSLY.
Team A foul throw,Team B foul throw,Team A foul throw,Team B foul throw. Repeat for 6 times doh.gif
The referee turned out into a throw in coach then sweat.gif


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post Nov 30 2010, 11:02 PM

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Yeah somehow in the social leagues the referees are much stricter with throw-ins. I suppose it'll really destroy the flow and excitement of the game if the refs do the same for televised EPL games - although their throw-ins are sometimes much worse than the amateurs!
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post Dec 1 2010, 01:43 AM

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how many teams can have this luxury?


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post Dec 1 2010, 05:08 PM

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QUOTE(BoltonMan @ Nov 30 2010, 09:20 AM)
delap is a javelin thrower in his youth.
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Hahah... that explains it !!! I'm a javelin thrower & of course the technique involved in throwing the javelin is a great help in developing all the muscles involved.


Added on December 1, 2010, 5:13 pm
QUOTE(dundermifflin @ Nov 30 2010, 08:25 AM)
not really related. Gomes (GK of Spurs) love to use throw a ball rather than using his kick. his long throw able to cross the half way line and i believe its more accurate than his kick.

but it seem he's cut it out these days..
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For keepers, the ability to throw is considered an essential skill. & U need to be able to throw until the halfway line as a keeper. Why ? Becoz unlike kicks, throwing can be much more accurate & I believe many of U have seen how a throw from a keeper can immediately start a counter attack. The keeper is already holding the ball, instead of having to take his time to start a kick, it's a lot faster to just throw the ball. Rashid Hassan (National, KL & currently Selangor's GK coach) was one local keeper with a very strong throw...

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post Dec 1 2010, 09:28 PM

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Liverpool used to have a monster thrower in the name of John Arne Riise.
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post Dec 1 2010, 09:31 PM

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Morten Gamst Perdersen has a wicked throw in his arsenal too
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post Dec 4 2010, 02:24 PM

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QUOTE(pyroboy1911 @ Nov 30 2010, 08:22 PM)
coz im studying overseas  sweat.gif

well the football league here have many tiers, and the ones i played in are quite low actually hehe...our team is basically the uni team, and most of our members are overseas students, half from Malaysia/Singapore and the rest are either locals or Europeans. We cant match the other teams on strength and size, i mean...i jump to try to head the ball still cant beat their centre back laugh.gif so we rely on good passing and speed wink.gif and tired out the older farts in the second half.

But i guess playing against tougher opponents who wouldnt hesitate in giving you a run for your money does make u develop. I mean...in Malaysia i wouldnt have to worry of a 100kg, 1.8m defender coming in and barge me tongue.gif
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I feel you man, I've played in NZ social league division 2.. the first 5 league games.. foul throws all around lol, the ref even threatened to giv us a card for it but we couldn't help it. It is truly an underrated skill

And I'm playing left back so I know exactly how you feel.

There's been a few occasions where I took down running wingers, the guy stood up like nothing happened, I stood there with my left/right foot thinking in my mind *ouch.. i think that hurt me more than him* darn those big dudes lol

This post has been edited by nzboy: Dec 4 2010, 02:25 PM
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post Dec 7 2010, 12:21 PM

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QUOTE(nzboy @ Dec 4 2010, 02:24 PM)
I feel you man, I've played in NZ social league division 2.. the first 5 league games.. foul throws all around lol, the ref even threatened to giv us a card for it but we couldn't help it. It is truly an underrated skill

And I'm playing left back so I know exactly how you feel.

There's been a few occasions where I took down running wingers, the guy stood up like nothing happened, I stood there with my left/right foot thinking in my mind *ouch.. i think that hurt me more than him* darn those big dudes lol
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you guys have played with caucasian with bigger body build than us..

what your comment that countries from South East Asia would never go far on world stage because we are among the lowest average height teams round?

is there truly a glass ceiling of achievement limited by height and physical build? or everthing is just in the mind..

people always gives example how messi and xavi excells in europe despite their lack of height. But they have other teammates that covers their physical defficiencys and if messi and xavi line up beside Malaysia national team, their height already above average..

what do you think?

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post Dec 7 2010, 12:50 PM

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To be honest, we do have a disadvantage in terms of size and strength. However my friends and I, none of which are as tough as the locals, need to play smart. If u ate jostling with the ball most probably u will be pushed aside. So gotta play smart by playing through them, not against them. The easier way is to play simple passing game.

Height wise, I think a Malaysian defender of 185cm tall may be around. Other than that, I think it's better for us to play on the ground football. But another important thing: the local lad, or in fact the whole population, needs to adopt the gymming mentality sweat.gif generally speaking, the population is divided into either "Kurus" or "gemuk" laugh.gif gotta buff up if u need to compete, not Malik Noor buff la, but enough to at least challenge in strength.

 

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