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MetalZone
post Jun 14 2006, 04:29 PM

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Since someone asked me about it, I decided to post this (confirmed by aleck as well). Just in case history repeats.

Note:
Inline pumps like the Laing D5, Laing DDC and AquaXtreme 50Z are NON-submersible. DO NOT EVER submerge them into water!
This is because they have other electronics at the back of the motor that are not sealed. The word Inline says it all. All Inline pumps should be non-submersible.
Pumps like the Nirox P2800 and Eheim's are encased in a single block of epoxy and thus are fully waterproof and submersible.

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post Jun 24 2006, 09:57 PM

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QUOTE(sniper on the roof @ Jun 20 2006, 02:40 PM)
Since I tried to be vain and just f***ed up a set of tygons.. lesson learned :

Thin walled tubing sucks, they kink and go soft easily with heat.

Get the thick walled ones.
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I recommend minimum 1/8" thick walls for Tygons, i.e. 1/2" ID 3/4" OD, or 7/16" ID 11/16" OD. Any thinner than that and they kink too easily for my taste.
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post Jun 4 2007, 07:44 PM

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QUOTE(sensesfail @ Jun 4 2007, 07:39 PM)
hi.i want to ask if anyone here tried waterblock + peltier?i want to ask where to find waterblock +peltier in lowyat?which shop sell them?anyone with tips about this might help.thanks in advance...
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Wrong thread to ask.
Go here http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/135886
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post Aug 1 2007, 03:04 PM

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QUOTE(lichyetan @ Aug 1 2007, 01:50 AM)
but i not sure, the y fittings i get seems diff angle at each outlet, 2 same 1 diff, not sure though, need some expert or experienced people explain....
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i think it's best run with the configuration on the left. you already explained it yourself why. coz of the different angles.
the left, you get equal flow restriction on both sides of incoming flow although the differences are pretty minor.

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post Aug 1 2007, 10:22 PM

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QUOTE(lichyetan @ Aug 1 2007, 04:22 PM)
yeah, but if run the configuration on the right will make my tubings looks cleaner, do it affect much? i need to bend some of my tubings if run the config on left, which means more difficult to route the tubings properly. Another question is, i know tht running dual 240mm radiator in parrallel bring better effects for the loop. if i run both on series will it kill the flow? the loop is pump, radiator1,radiator2,cpu block, gpu block, reservoir. i using mcp650, laing d4 pump. if run in series will make my tubings looks even neat but gotto sacrifice performance.  hmm.gif  hmm.gif  unsure.gif  unsure.gif
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if i remember correctly, the Y-barb i sold u, the top of the Y is even sharper than a 90 degree angle. probably 60 degrees. i don't think the flow would like that bend, but then again, the differences might be pretty minor.

i had a look again at the pressure drop vs flow graphs of the MCR220 and MCW60
MCR220 at 1.5gpm has a pressure drop of 0.6psi
MCW60 at 1.5gpm is 0.75psi

So based on that assumption, adding another MCR220 to the loop in series is like adding a slightly less restrictive MCW60 waterblock. it doesn't appear to kill the flow that badly.

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post Aug 2 2007, 09:41 PM

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QUOTE(lichyetan @ Aug 2 2007, 02:43 AM)
icic, so do u think setting up in parrallel with improper flow directions give better performance or dual rad at series? need some idea and some info before setup my loop as i gonna use it in long term, lazy to redid the loop as this semester are quite pack for me and i'll do it nxt week as having midterm break.
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I'll frankly say I can't say for sure.
we know that higher flow rates contribute to higher efficiency, so with any component, whether the rad, or waterblock will perform better with higher flow rates. however, in general terms, radiators don't benefit from that much from increased flow rates; in fact much less than current waterblocks.

overall flow rates will be slightly higher with parallel rads. thus flow rates thru the waterblocks would be higher. but flow rate thru each of the rads alone will be halved.

in a serial rad setup, overall flow rate is slightly lower, that is, the waterblocks too. but the flow rates thru the rads are now equal to the rest of the loop.

which will perform better you say? to be sure, we're gonna need someone to test for real or do computational fluid dynamics. i'd GUESS with setups with less pump head pressure, running a parallel rad setup will benefit more, whereas with high head pressure pumps, the difference may not be so apparent.
you probably can get away with a serial setup since that's more sensible for your tubing routing needs.

UPDATE:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=145954
Read up this thread for further info.
I had totally forgot about the Delta T (temperature differential between water temp and ambient temp) of the radiators, and in this case, parallel wins. radiators are more efficient the higher the delta T is. with parallel rads, both rads have the same Delta T. whereas, with rads in series, the second rad will have a lower delta T than the first because the water temp has already been lowered by the first rad.

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post Aug 3 2007, 12:12 PM

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I believe you can get away with just adding the alphacool nexxxos xp into the loop (after cpu block of course) since the FuZion isn't very restrictive, and the PA is one of the least restrictive rads around.
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post Aug 9 2007, 09:44 PM

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QUOTE(Doom @ Aug 9 2007, 12:52 AM)
anyway what do u guys think about this small babe for simple PC setup ..

Swiftech Compact H20-120 CPU Cooling Kit
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I think it's pretty decent for a single waterblock(CPU) loop.
I wouldn't advice adding too much heat load to as you'll end up with mediocre performance only. You might wanna look out for the 2x120mm version soon.
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post Oct 16 2007, 03:13 AM

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QUOTE(maput @ Oct 15 2007, 09:09 PM)
MTZ; i'am using antec P160. Can i use some WC for CPU ?
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Bro, wrong thread to discuss this. Discussions and questions should go here: http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/180866/+1780
But to answer your question anyway, yes you can. You could mod the top panel. Please discuss further via pm or in the aforementioned link.

 

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