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 STOCK MARKET DISCUSSION V67, Alex's 1447 or 1388.....

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yok70
post Dec 3 2010, 11:18 PM

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QUOTE(jasontoh @ Dec 3 2010, 11:15 PM)
Think he was referring to Tecnic. Read his blog just now  tongue.gif
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Was he? Misunderstood loh. tongue.gif


Added on December 3, 2010, 11:19 pmAnyone has research paper on Tecnic? Since so hot now, wanna take a look also. biggrin.gif


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post Dec 3 2010, 11:25 PM

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QUOTE(yok70 @ Dec 3 2010, 11:21 PM)
Axreit recent few days got someone trying to push up the price and put on rather big sell queue at much higher price with some gap.
As at current price of 2.34 with latest 3 quarters + estimated some yield as 3rd qtr for the 4th qtr,  yield is only at 6.7%.  doh.gif
I thought to top up some too, but not sure if I should wait for a while for it to consolidate.  hmm.gif


Added on December 3, 2010, 10:25 pm

Arreit has been laggard recently. Guess 0.905 is a good entry point, may top up some too before it catches up with other reits.  biggrin.gif
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Arreit move like SNAIL bor.... Sure you like it kah hmm.gif tongue.gif

Arreit drops are not so significant compare with other reits during 2008 subprime crisis due to reasons below :
1. Long term tenants
2. Long term loans with fix rate.

This post has been edited by darkknight81: Dec 3 2010, 11:52 PM
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post Dec 3 2010, 11:26 PM

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QUOTE(yok70 @ Dec 3 2010, 11:15 PM)
If its yield goes up to 20% how?  tongue.gif
I also love it that way but too optimistic.  blush.gif
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haha, you're right. sometimes gotta face the reality also. tongue.gif

QUOTE(jasontoh @ Dec 3 2010, 11:16 PM)
Don't give up. I think soon will be your turn. Anyway, last few weeks was YTL's turn right? Everyone will get their turn to be in the top gainers biggrin.gif
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ahaha, yeah YTL. but the move caught me off guard also. blush.gif
recently ithink a lot of yours in the top gainer list also eh! laugh.gif
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post Dec 3 2010, 11:35 PM

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QUOTE(darkknight81 @ Dec 3 2010, 11:25 PM)
Arreit move like bor.... Sure you like it kah  hmm.gif  tongue.gif

Arreit drops are not so significant compare with other reits during 2008 subprime crisis due to reasons below :
1. Long term tenants
2. Long term loans with fix rate.
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Gosh. everyone is targeting on REITs nowadays....

I got AAH at the moment. Wanted to top up ARREIT too. When is it going to go down to 0.9?
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post Dec 3 2010, 11:36 PM

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no 1 talking about kencana raising more monies ? dilutions , dilutions , dilutions ...
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post Dec 3 2010, 11:43 PM

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QUOTE(tanch78 @ Dec 3 2010, 11:35 PM)
Gosh. everyone is targeting on REITs nowadays....

I got AAH at the moment. Wanted to top up ARREIT too. When is it going to go down to 0.9?
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90.5, 91, no diff from 90 sen hahaha

question is would it ever go back down to 83? tongue.gif
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post Dec 3 2010, 11:46 PM

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Bursa is so not informative.

I read this page trying to understand warrants, and I can't find answer. doh.gif
http://www.klse.com.my/website/bm/products...d_warrants.html

My immediate questions:
1. -W is what? call warrant or put warrant?
2. What's the difference between call/put warrant?
3. What happen when the call/put warrant expire?

Until now, I still getting all kinds of different answers. Try to find accurate answer at Bursa (since I worry different market has different definitions) but can't find any. rclxub.gif


Added on December 3, 2010, 11:47 pm
QUOTE(darkknight81 @ Dec 3 2010, 11:25 PM)
Arreit move like bor.... Sure you like it kah  hmm.gif  tongue.gif

Arreit drops are not so significant compare with other reits during 2008 subprime crisis due to reasons below :
1. Long term tenants
2. Long term loans with fix rate.
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Thanks for the info. notworthy.gif


Added on December 3, 2010, 11:51 pm
QUOTE(GregPG01 @ Dec 3 2010, 11:36 PM)
no 1 talking about kencana raising more monies ? dilutions , dilutions , dilutions ...
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The world is fair. Expansion comes with dilution. As long as it has enough jobs for the expansion...this, gotta wait for papers to come. lazy lazy... tongue.gif


Added on December 3, 2010, 11:52 pm
QUOTE(teehk_tee @ Dec 3 2010, 11:43 PM)
90.5, 91, no diff from 90 sen hahaha

question is would it ever go back down to 83? tongue.gif
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my first buying was at 0.845. tongue.gif


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QUOTE(teehk_tee @ Dec 4 2010, 12:43 AM)
90.5, 91, no diff from 90 sen hahaha

question is would it ever go back down to 83? tongue.gif
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Most welcome drool.gif
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post Dec 3 2010, 11:58 PM

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QUOTE(yok70 @ Dec 3 2010, 11:46 PM)
Bursa is so not informative.

I read this page trying to understand warrants, and I can't find answer.  doh.gif
http://www.klse.com.my/website/bm/products...d_warrants.html

My immediate questions:
1. -W is what? call warrant or put warrant?
2. What's the difference between call/put warrant?
3. What happen when the call/put warrant expire?

Until now, I still getting all kinds of different answers. Try to find accurate answer at Bursa (since I worry different market has different definitions) but can't find any.  rclxub.gif

Added on December 3, 2010, 11:52 pm

my first buying was at 0.845.  tongue.gif
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yeah it's quite lacking. do you need help with those questions? my arreit buy-in was around 84.5 also icon_rolleyes.gif

QUOTE(darkknight81 @ Dec 3 2010, 11:53 PM)
Most welcome  drool.gif
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hahaha drool.gif i'd sell whatever i have to top up at 83
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QUOTE(yok70 @ Dec 3 2010, 11:46 PM)
Bursa is so not informative.

I read this page trying to understand warrants, and I can't find answer.  doh.gif
http://www.klse.com.my/website/bm/products...d_warrants.html

My immediate questions:
1. -W is what? call warrant or put warrant?
2. What's the difference between call/put warrant?
3. What happen when the call/put warrant expire?

Until now, I still getting all kinds of different answers. Try to find accurate answer at Bursa (since I worry different market has different definitions) but can't find any.  rclxub.gif


Added on December 3, 2010, 11:47 pm

Thanks for the info.  notworthy.gif


Added on December 3, 2010, 11:51 pm

The world is fair. Expansion comes with dilution. As long as it has enough jobs for the expansion...this, gotta wait for papers to come. lazy lazy... tongue.gif


Added on December 3, 2010, 11:52 pm

my first buying was at 0.845.  tongue.gif
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try investorpedia...simple and clear flex.gif
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post Dec 4 2010, 12:20 AM

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QUOTE(teehk_tee @ Dec 3 2010, 11:43 PM)
90.5, 91, no diff from 90 sen hahaha

question is would it ever go back down to 83? tongue.gif
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my best price is 89.x - 90 cents (but small purchase as no bullet last time)

me small time investor... somemore my brokerage fee is 0.4% ....

shall i sell off my only 10 lots STONEFRIEND shares for ARREIT? rclxub.gif I am now looking for dividend play...
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I feel that YES is launching well... it get very great response from my school, i signed for 1 too.. but it is just the prepaid wan...is the postpaid package coming out soon? looking forward to it
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QUOTE(tanch78 @ Dec 4 2010, 12:20 AM)
my best price is 89.x - 90 cents (but small purchase as no bullet last time)

me small time investor... somemore my brokerage fee is 0.4% ....

shall i sell off my only 10 lots STONEFRIEND shares for ARREIT?  rclxub.gif I am now looking for dividend play...
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wah stonefriend baru issue buy signal you wanna sell liao ? u need to refer to all the other stone friend masters here. i tarak stone friend blush.gif
0.4 is quite standard with margin. nod.gif

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post Dec 4 2010, 12:42 AM

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yok.. try to answer your q, someone else can correct me if wrong

-W is warrant that is dished out by the company. e.g. IJM-WC is warrant that issued by IJM before. usually conversion 1:1. at the end of the expiry, u need to convert to mother share if u still holding it. that means you have to fork out your money to pay 'the exercise price'.

where else -C is structured warrant that is issued by investment banks. usually American style, ie cash setttlement. conversion rate differs, sometimes 1:3, even 1:10 also got. At the end of the expiry date, if the warrant is in the money, you'll get paid in cash. hence the term cash settlement. you CANNOT convert to mother share at any time, not during the trading day, and not even before expiry.
If it is out of money, all your money burn lo.

put warrant if not mistaken, is for hedging purposes. Since it is not shariah approved, I didnt bother reading about it. But I remember reading somewhere in Robert Kiyosaki book, mentioning how to leverage and make money using put warrant.

Hope this help.



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QUOTE(drsaleh @ Dec 4 2010, 12:42 AM)
yok.. try to answer your q, someone else can correct me if wrong

-W is warrant that is dished out by the company. e.g. IJM-WC is warrant that issued by IJM before. usually conversion 1:1. at the end of the expiry, u need to convert to mother share if u still holding it. that means you have to fork out your money to pay 'the exercise price'.

where else -C is structured warrant that is issued by investment banks. usually American style, ie cash setttlement. conversion rate differs, sometimes 1:3, even 1:10 also got. At the end of the expiry date, if the warrant is in the money, you'll get paid in cash. hence the term cash settlement. you CANNOT convert to mother share at any time, not during the trading day, and not even before expiry.
If it is out of money, all your money burn lo.

put warrant if not mistaken, is for hedging purposes. Since it is not shariah approved, I didnt bother reading about it. But I remember reading somewhere in Robert Kiyosaki book, mentioning how to leverage and make money using put warrant.

Hope this help.
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just some amendments. if the CW is out of money, no harm -you just lose a little money. if it's below the strike price (all CWs have this), then might as well just burn it. icon_rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(SuperToi @ Dec 4 2010, 01:32 AM)
I feel that YES is launching well... it get very great response from my school, i signed for 1 too.. but it is just the prepaid wan...is the postpaid package coming out soon? looking forward to it
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icon_rolleyes.gif YES HAS NO PREPAID OR POSTPAID .......ONLY 1 TYPE......9 CENTS FOR ALL CALLS EVEN TO ALL TELCOS LIKE MAXIS, DIGI, CELCOM , ETC rclxm9.gif ......SO VERY VERY CHEAP INDEED COMPARE TO OTHER TELCOS YOU HAVE TO PAY THROUGH YOUR NOSE. vmad.gif ......... and moreover there is no expiry date unlike other telcos like Digi, Maxis, Celcom, Tunetalk, etc...........ie as long as you had money in your account, you can always make call. Moreover, Yes 4G Yes4G to give 10GB of free data until the 19th December 2010.


icon_rolleyes.gif Brother SuperToi, go here please to get more details.....

http://www.yes.my


wub.gif Cheers. ........NOW SEE ALL THE PHOTOS....GO HERE PLEASE.....


http://www.facebook.com/Yes4G?v=wall#!...id=242365937676



thumbup.gif BTW, if you want to invest in YES for it's future growth......go here please to find out more.......


http://www.ytlesolutions.com/Index.asp


icon_rolleyes.gif See the blue YES logo there?


thumbup.gif YTL e- Solutions Bhd (YTLE) is listed on the ACE Market of Bursa Malaysia with a market capitalisation of approximately RM1.8 billion (US$583 million). YTLE is part of the YTL Corporation Berhad Group, one of Malaysia's leading infrastructure conglomerates.

YTLE's key activities in Malaysia comprise alternative voice telecommunication services carried out by Extiva Communications Sdn Bhd, development, ownership and operation of narrowcast digital media networks through Infoscreen Networks PLC, which is listed on the AIM Market of the London Stock Exchange, and wireless fixed broadband services through Airzëd Services Sdn Bhd. YTLE's most prized asset is its 2.3GHz Worldwide Interoperability for Microwave Access (WiMAX) spectrum in Peninsular Malaysia, which is owned through Y-MAX Networks Sdn Bhd.




thumbup.gif NOW WATCH THE VIDEO..



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oJW-PJFey0s


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ULW8wQqyQw


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uw5GYZq4Qkw


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0BksYjJLpfk


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TyJQwMFVTik


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gl5wVufcb8k



thumbup.gif YES, STUDENT PAGE HERE PLEASE...


http://www.yes.com.my/en/epp/education-partner-program.aspx

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QUOTE(monkeyking @ Dec 4 2010, 01:47 AM)
icon_rolleyes.gif YES HAS NO PREPAID OR POSTPAID .......ONLY 1 TYPE......9 CENTS FOR ALL CALLS EVEN TO ALL TELCOS LIKE MAXIS, DIGI, CELCOM , ETC  rclxm9.gif ......SO VERY VERY CHEAP INDEED COMPARE TO OTHER TELCOS YOU HAVE TO PAY THROUGH YOUR NOSE.  vmad.gif  ......... and moreover there is no expiry date unlike other telcos like Digi, Maxis, Celcom, Tunetalk, etc...........ie as long as you had money in your account, you can always make call. Moreover, Yes 4G  Yes4G to give 10GB of free data until the 19th December 2010.
icon_rolleyes.gif Brother SuperToi, go here please to get more details.....

http://www.yes.my
wub.gif Cheers. ........NOW SEE ALL THE PHOTOS....GO HERE PLEASE.....
http://www.facebook.com/Yes4G?v=wall#!...id=242365937676
thumbup.gif BTW, if you want to invest in YES for it's future growth......go here please to find out more.......
http://www.ytlesolutions.com/Index.asp
icon_rolleyes.gif See the blue YES logo there?
thumbup.gif YTL e- Solutions Bhd (YTLE) is listed on the ACE Market of Bursa Malaysia with a market capitalisation of approximately RM1.8 billion (US$583 million). YTLE is part of the YTL Corporation Berhad Group, one of Malaysia's leading infrastructure conglomerates.

YTLE's key activities in Malaysia comprise alternative voice telecommunication services carried out by Extiva Communications Sdn Bhd, development, ownership and operation of narrowcast digital media networks through Infoscreen Networks PLC, which is listed on the AIM Market of the London Stock Exchange, and wireless fixed broadband services through Airzëd Services Sdn Bhd. YTLE's most prized asset is its 2.3GHz Worldwide Interoperability for Microwave Access (WiMAX) spectrum in Peninsular Malaysia, which is owned through Y-MAX Networks Sdn Bhd. 
thumbup.gif NOW WATCH THE VIDEO..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oJW-PJFey0s
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ULW8wQqyQw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uw5GYZq4Qkw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0BksYjJLpfk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TyJQwMFVTik
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gl5wVufcb8k
thumbup.gif YES, STUDENT PAGE HERE PLEASE...
http://www.yes.com.my/en/epp/education-partner-program.aspx
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wow! thanks for so much of information! btw, YES is directly under YTLE or YTLPOWER?
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QUOTE(SuperToi @ Dec 4 2010, 05:09 AM)
wow! thanks for so much of information! btw, YES is directly under YTLE or YTLPOWER?
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icon_rolleyes.gif YES is inder YTL Communications & itself is under YTLPower........however I think both YTLE & YTLPower are interrelated. Mind you YTLE has the 2.3GHz Worldwide Interoperability for Microwave Access (WiMAX) spectrum in Peninsular Malaysia which YTLPower doesn't have. According to my sources, YTLPower paid & provide all the infrastructure [ very expensive] & YTLE provide the Wimax spectrum [ the incubator].......so it 60:40 percentage on profits.......could someone me please correct me if I am wrong. notworthy.gif If I were you I would go for YTLE shares........more power so to say. thumbup.gif


wub.gif Cheers brother SuperToi........you have a great weekend too. icon_idea.gif rclxm9.gif

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QUOTE(sharesa @ Dec 3 2010, 11:05 PM)
you have expensive taste biggrin.gif
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Its just that i'm a loyal consumer on their products.

And their products are not that expensive

My friends' auntie bought Nestle at RM 9 dont know how many years ago and that time she say it is expensive. laugh.gif

Just like people say GAB is expensive at RM 9.xx now laugh.gif

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QUOTE(yok70 @ Dec 3 2010, 10:21 PM)
Axreit recent few days got someone trying to push up the price and put on rather big sell queue at much higher price with some gap.
As at current price of 2.34 with latest 3 quarters + estimated some yield as 3rd qtr for the 4th qtr,  yield is only at 6.7%.  doh.gif
I thought to top up some too, but not sure if I should wait for a while for it to consolidate.  hmm.gif

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It is expected to report a improved EPS in the near future, due to new contribution of Quatrro (Previous Nestle house), which a few Q didn't contribute any income due to renovation, as well as newly acquired properties.

Expected EPS/DPU is in the region >16 or 17~18 cents.

If we take 17
17/2.34 = 7.26%

Btw, Atrium and Amfirst still sending dividend through mail, not yet e-dividend.

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