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 STOCK MARKET DISCUSSION V67, Alex's 1447 or 1388.....

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post Dec 3 2010, 04:11 PM

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QUOTE(cherroy @ Dec 3 2010, 04:06 PM)
No one eyeing Maybulk anymore?

Pretty good Q report.
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still on my watchlist (as barometer of trade lol). but since that peak at 3.40 then its been sideways and down unsure.gif

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post Dec 3 2010, 04:12 PM

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QUOTE(Mr.LKM @ Dec 3 2010, 04:10 PM)
Don't forget the transaction fees associated.
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so am i making profit or loss ar? i just need someone with good maths to tell me
i am noob on all this share market stuff.. my friend ask me go open account with RM20k and buy bjtoto then i buy lo.. keep until today lo...
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QUOTE(Currylaksa @ Dec 3 2010, 04:10 PM)
If I'm not mistaken, analysts say the outlook for shipping rates is still cloudy. hmm.gif
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Yea, I am holding FREIGHT, one of the 2 laggards in my portfolio, the other one is ZHULIAN...

FREIGHT had a very good Q report also, haha, keep reminding myself to hold for long term tongue.gif
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post Dec 3 2010, 04:15 PM

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QUOTE(majorarmstrong @ Dec 3 2010, 04:12 PM)
so am i making profit or loss ar? i just need someone with good maths to tell me
i am noob on all this share market stuff.. my friend ask me go open account with RM20k and buy bjtoto then i buy lo.. keep until today lo...
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looking at adjusted chart, on 07/07/2009 bjtoto
open 4.32
high 4.32
low 4.225
so assuming you buy at high 4.32 high . current price 4.18 , so you lost rm0.14 per share. hope this helps.

there is even a rights issue after that which i assume you didnt do anything ...

This post has been edited by GregPG01: Dec 3 2010, 04:16 PM
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post Dec 3 2010, 04:16 PM

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pana u r right...i watch the screen until now....
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post Dec 3 2010, 04:16 PM

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QUOTE(majorarmstrong @ Dec 3 2010, 04:12 PM)
so am i making profit or loss ar? i just need someone with good maths to tell me
i am noob on all this share market stuff.. my friend ask me go open account with RM20k and buy bjtoto then i buy lo.. keep until today lo...
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If I'm not wrong, even include div, you are still making loss. The simplest way is to take the average div, which is about 32c, so 5.00 - 4.20 = 80c. 80c -32c = 48c. This is the rough calculation only. Anyway, to make complex things simple, just use capital gain to determine profit or loss. If include div, very screwed way of calculating, which I don't prefer. Don't tell me, you wanna put 5K in and come out 5K include div?
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QUOTE(Currylaksa @ Dec 3 2010, 04:10 PM)
If I'm not mistaken, analysts say the outlook for shipping rates is still cloudy. hmm.gif
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By the time, anal ysts said it is good, share price already up up up, too late liao. tongue.gif






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post Dec 3 2010, 04:17 PM

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QUOTE(Larrylow @ Dec 3 2010, 04:13 PM)
Yea, I am holding FREIGHT, one of the 2 laggards in my portfolio, the other one is ZHULIAN...

FREIGHT had a very good Q report also, haha, keep reminding myself to hold for long term tongue.gif
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Not recommending just discussion anyone here hold MHC ? Holding company and holds 30% of CEPAT.

IMHO, quite similar to bkwan and KLK just a smaller version.
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post Dec 3 2010, 04:17 PM

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QUOTE(GregPG01 @ Dec 3 2010, 04:15 PM)
looking at adjusted chart, on 07/07/2009 bjtoto
open 4.32
high 4.32
low 4.225
so assuming you buy at high 4.32 high . current price 4.18 , so you lost rm0.14 per share. hope this helps.

there is even a rights issue after that which i assume you didnt do anything ...
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07/07/2009 Buy 2,800 5.000
07/07/2009 Buy 700 5.000
07/07/2009 Buy 700 5.000
27/07/2009 Bulk Transfer 300 5.000

this is what i get... so profit or loss ar? if loss a little i gonna sell off liao la..
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post Dec 3 2010, 04:20 PM

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yep, greg's right. you're making a slight loss including dividends.
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post Dec 3 2010, 04:22 PM

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QUOTE(teehk_tee @ Dec 3 2010, 04:20 PM)
yep, greg's right. you're making a slight loss including dividends.
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oh.. slight meaning around <500 la rite? so ok la... not too bad lo... i see from my account -ve RM3690 and i was like walaueh.. my friend cannot hope la...
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post Dec 3 2010, 04:24 PM

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QUOTE(majorarmstrong @ Dec 3 2010, 04:22 PM)
oh.. slight meaning around <500 la rite? so ok la... not too bad lo... i see from my account -ve RM3690 and i was like walaueh.. my friend cannot hope la...
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uh .. hang on. -3690?!

u didn't take the rights?
then you're making a bigger loss lo i think..


- - no wait u got the rights under bulk transfer 300 shares.

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post Dec 3 2010, 04:24 PM

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QUOTE(majorarmstrong @ Dec 3 2010, 04:09 PM)
This is the detail of my BJTOTO.. so am i making profit or loss? i also tak tahu la... this is headache la... i am thinking of selling off the share and dump it into my housing loan better.. .although they give some dividen la

07/07/2009 Buy 2,800  5.000 
07/07/2009 Buy 700  5.000 
07/07/2009 Buy 700  5.000 
27/07/2009 Bulk Transfer 300  5.000
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What does it mean by bulk transfer?

Instead of doing the math for you, I will give you some formulae.

Add up all the shares you have on 7/7 which you bought at RM5. Then you will have the total value of your stock when bought. Multiply this amount by your brokerage (ex: RHB charges 0.42% or RM12 whichever is minimum), use the original amount to multiply again by 0.03% for clearing fee and 0.1% for stamp duty. Add these three transaction cost together and your original amount gives you the total amount you paid for buying BJTOTO.
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post Dec 3 2010, 04:24 PM

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ok from today onwards i gonna learn on how to trade.. hopefully is not too old to learn..
gonna stay on this thread to learn a few tips n tricks...

i also hold 1000 shares of MAXIS where i got it off tender.. so this one i am sure making a bit of profit la.. they always send RM80 cheque to my house...

also my same friend ask me to go tender eh... hahaha


Added on December 3, 2010, 4:26 pm
QUOTE(Mr.LKM @ Dec 3 2010, 04:24 PM)
What does it mean by bulk transfer?

Instead of doing the math for you, I will give you some formulae.

Add up all the shares you have on 7/7 which you bought at RM5. Then you will have the total value of your stock when bought. Multiply this amount by your brokerage (ex: RHB charges 0.42% or RM12 whichever is minimum), use the original amount to multiply again by 0.03% for clearing fee and 0.1% for stamp duty. Add these three transaction cost together and your original amount gives you the total amount you paid for buying BJTOTO.
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if is < RM500 so is okay la... i am super bad with all this calculation.. i am kinda noob in maths.. i guess gonna dump all in a couple of days la..


Added on December 3, 2010, 4:27 pmBULK TRANSFER is that they give me some extra shares.. i also dont know why they give and then share price go down like mad!

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post Dec 3 2010, 04:27 PM

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QUOTE(majorarmstrong @ Dec 3 2010, 04:17 PM)
07/07/2009 Buy 2,800 5.000
07/07/2009 Buy 700 5.000
07/07/2009 Buy 700 5.000
27/07/2009 Bulk Transfer 300 5.000

this is what i get... so profit or loss ar? if loss a little i gonna sell off liao la..
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average RM5, now RM4.2 so u have 0.80 loss per share. lets say we take average 4% div from your buy price, 20 cent per year. since u buy 1.3 year ago. 20x 1.3 = 26 sen

0.8-0.26 = RM0.54 loss


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post Dec 3 2010, 04:28 PM

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make it simple la... u dump in how much when u buy...

then now when u sell u get how much...

there is ur lost...

i exclude other details calculation adi... tongue.gif
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QUOTE(majorarmstrong @ Dec 3 2010, 04:24 PM)
ok from today onwards i gonna learn on how to trade.. hopefully is not too old to learn..
gonna stay on this thread to learn a few tips n tricks...

from your avatar, u look reaaalllllyyy old..
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post Dec 3 2010, 04:29 PM

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QUOTE(harry1125 @ Dec 3 2010, 04:27 PM)
average RM5, now RM4.2 so u have 0.80 loss per share. lets say we take average 4% div from your buy price, 20 cent per year. since u buy 1.3 year ago. 20x 1.3 = 26 sen

0.8-0.26 = RM0.54 loss
all is about assumption smile.gif
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but i got back some bulk transfer which is like FREE SHARES of 300 shares.. so when factor that in izzit profit or loss?
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ok i count liao

ur cost is 4200 x 5 = 21k, roughly (excl commission)
ur value now is 4500 x 4.18 = 18,810 (excl commission)

you're losing quite a bit. roughly 10%.
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post Dec 3 2010, 04:30 PM

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when did Bjtoto have Rights ? i tot only share divvy..

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