Hi All,

Does anyone know how is the ceiling fan hook added to plaster ceiling?

I know for concrete ceiling, normally the contractor will drill and screw the hook onto the ceiling. What about for plaster ceiling which has a 8inch-1ft space/gap between the plaster ceiling and the hidden concrete ceiling?

Is the ceiling fan hook installed to plaster ceiling strong enough to hold a ceiling fan which weights 5-7kg over many years?

Thanks!
Lim

usually the fan hook is installed on the concrete ceiling / rafter 1st before installing the roof.
Then once cable and fittings are done, then the plaster ceiling would come into play.
This is why plaster ceiling are considered as finishes. because it is one of the components that comes in during the last stage of construction.

If you already have a plaster ceiling installed, then if im not mistaken, you have to punch a whole through the ceiling and drill the hook in, then you put the fans leg inside, through the ceiling.
Once that is done, you can later on cover the extra opening on the ceiling with the fans cap given.

I saw in some houses where plaster ceiling is installed, the fan hook can be seen hanging out from the plaster ceiling. It is not 'embedded' or hidden inside the plaster ceiling as described. I wonder how the contractors do the fan hook like that?

Maybe they still drill and screw the fan to the concrete ceiling inside the plaster ceiling and have a very long fan hook (longer than the gap between plaster ceiling and concrete ceiling) and that's why it protude out from the plaster ceiling?

you would then have to find out what is the gap between the plaster and concrete. mine is less than 1 inch, hence my hook is direct to the concrete.

anyway, this installation of the fan hook is done by my plaster ceiling contractor, consult yours to find out how its done and what your options are

The actual way to do is, they need to put a solid wood on top of plaster ceiling, and use alunimium bar to fix the wood from your exiting celing, then the fan hock just install on the solid wood, when close up plaster ceiling, then u will still see the fan hock on the celing.

Hi Eleganz,

Yeah I think you are right. I ask someone and he said the same thing. Just wonder if this is really strong enough to hold fans which could weight near 10kg for those decorative ones with lights?

If they doing in proper way, that will sure no problem, ask you may know some plaster ceiling price a cheap, because they using a simple way, which drill a ceiling, and screw the aluminium bar with plastic wall plug only, that 1 i not sure secure or not, but our way is using a older and a bit expensive type, which using a gun to shoot the nail to celing to fix the aluminium bar(not sure you know what i mean or not), which i think that is very much secure to hold only 10kg fan.

The most important thing is the wood itself. It must be solid enough to hold the fan and also during the fan is in motion. Secondly, the installation of the wood. Some contractor use nail gun, some use screw, it is all good as long the contractor do it correctly.

it is better to use the concrete slab as the support instead of plaster ceiling, even if adding solid wood. Solid wood can use to support light fittings or small chandelier.

for ceiling fan, better to use rawl plug or the hook drilled into concrete.

So, what if some1 house is full plaster ceiling, where is the ceiling fan should be install?

concrete slab is applicable only for downstairs (in a 2 storey scenario), but upstairs won't be possible as the next thing u see above the ceiling is the roof, Eleganz's explanation on using solid wood is applied, that's at least true in my reno.

@Eleganz:

U have a very good explanation.

i just complete my plaster ceiling... what eleganz describe is per what my contractor is doing now..

ha ha.. I purposely tell some joke with my contractor.. is this secure enough to hole a fan .. u know what he use his hand to hole the solid wood and leg does not touch the ground. If it can hole a adult body weight i think is secure enough to hole a fan

Just make sure like what eleganz mention, make sure ur contractor is doing in proper manner.

Hi all, can anyone care to share a picture of that fan hook just like what Eleganz explain plz?

Thanks

This is the common practice. When I was doing my plaster ceiling, I make sure that they balance the wood kao kao. I even climb up the ladder to look at the leveler.

I asked him to do it strong at that fan point, so this Burmese and his friends grin and then start doing chin ups on the aluminum carcass. 2 of them at once. So your fan is just small matter.

TQ guys, just to share what i know only ^^

can hold a man weight doesn't mean it safe, those tiny screw on the thin ceiling tees/ strut will become loose after the fan swing/ moving for some times


i share some photos,



this is the REJECTED one

ceiling guy will tell u this is okay, all ppl do like this.... but i'll never take this BS as i have seen fan fly down together with the hook

this is the proper one

thanks for the photos..really good custom-made bracket

yes, the rejected one seem insecure. See the aliminum sambung2 & don't loop the wood. beside the screw at hook

Dear all sifus,

my fan hooks is built in the plaster ceiling, so how to install the ceiling fan ? isn't it necessary for the hook to be with height exceed the plaster ceiling as shown in the photo ?

appreciate your input.


TQVM

CK

err so how to select the correct ceiling fan for this scenario?

Dear All Sifus,
I am confused with the ceiling fan hook is installed.
Is this stable? My contractor, said this is standard way of installing the extended fan hook. And i am charged RM120 per fan hook. Is the price fair?

This post has been edited by WinWin1: May 8 2015, 07:16 AM

I think RM120 is expensive. Usually the contractor will do it FOC if ur project is not a minor one. And looks like its not stable if u compare to the pic that is shared in previous page ( the rejected one is hold by two frame but yours is only one)

This are the usual & normal way a.k.a cheap way for ceiling fan hook.
My house also use the same method as i do also raise the same question but end up they did the same also.

Expansive.
I DIY mine is less then RM 30.00.
Mine one not even attached to the soffit of slab.
Just hang a 2" by 2" timber on top of my ceiling board and hook the hook on the timber.

That is the way its done, unless your plaster ceiling are very near to the ceiling.