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post Dec 11 2010, 11:47 AM

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QUOTE(xandras @ Dec 11 2010, 02:22 AM)
240? Downhill + Strip your car to the metal + VPower 99 + Damn lotsa guts + balls + recently divorced/broke up + gave me all ur assets.. Then you're ready to 'GO'...  brows.gif

*Good brakes not included, probably not even required*
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Probably i should also remove the brakes to reduce upsprung mass... hmm.gif

QUOTE(khtee @ Dec 11 2010, 08:38 AM)
hahha.... ya....
240kmph ...is really mad man.... if u survive.. you should really get your car checked... the engine and the gearbox..... but guys .. check out this.. this is the theoretical top speed based on calculation for persona auto 
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Top Speed
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Make     : Proton
Model     : Persona 1.6 (A)

Tyre Size             : 195/60/R15 (61.50 cm)
Redzone RPM         : 6500

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Gear Ratio
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1st     : 2.842
2nd     : 1.529
3rd     : 1.000
4th     : 0.712

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Final Reduction Gear Ratio
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1st     : 4.042
2nd     : 4.042
3rd     : 4.042
4th     : 4.042

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Speed & RPM
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1st     : 65.59Kmh / 40.74Mph @ 6500 RPM
2nd     : 121.92Kmh / 75.73Mph @ 6500 RPM
3rd     : 186.42Kmh / 115.79Mph @ 6500 RPM
4th     : 261.83Kmh / 162.62Mph @ 6500 RPM
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Wow awesome data.. My new target.. 262kmh.. hehehehe.. But tires cant tahan leh.. My tire speed rating should be H or V only.. 240 tops
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QUOTE(jackyap84 @ Dec 11 2010, 09:48 AM)
JMM1888, no problem. I will het his number for u. I will liaising with him to remap ECU with his own formula. He said after the ECU remapped, the car will feel more power, gear smooth, pickup better, of course FC improve. smile.gif
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Thanks a lot.. rclxm9.gif

QUOTE(jasondotcom @ Dec 11 2010, 10:37 AM)
yea kinda sad eh....

i dynoed my stock B line Persona 2009 automatic and this is what i get.....see below.

» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «

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Wah.. U also got the same results.. Shd have shown me earlier.. hehe.. At least i wont feel so disappointed.. Even stock City also pwned me.. 1 Satria Gti Evo3 turbo kaw kaw engine was pulling 300whp there while testing.. rclxub.gif Now thats what i expect from my car.. laugh.gif

QUOTE(jackyap84 @ Dec 11 2010, 11:13 AM)
let unlock ur ECU, u will suprice!
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Hmm.. Haiya think back i have to spend extra somemore to dyno again.. hehe.. I shd get package rate from them better..


Added on December 11, 2010, 11:54 am
QUOTE(jackyap84 @ Dec 11 2010, 11:41 AM)
U may engage Jacky from Serdang SC, he can unlock Persona ECU (jailbreak), and he put in his own formula (data which he tested) to ECU. Originally, our ECU got the potential to perform to the MAX. No doubt, for PE, which use 32 bit ECU, much more mapping point can set. for 16 bit ECU, about 64 mapping point, for 32 bit ECU, it around 130 mapping point can be set. After jailbreking the ECU, u will feel the torque like 1.8cc, no more lacking power when on low rev. Top speed easier can be archive. Don't simply go to ask him when in public, he do it underground.


Added on December 11, 2010, 11:42 am

for auto, when gear changing, u will feel power lost, ur car feel no energy, after the ECU breaking, u will suprise. smile.gif
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Wah.. At last something to cure my sleepless nights now.. haha.. Damn sad loh.. So lousy power.. Sien..
When he upload the new map for u he tune ur car on dyno or he just upload a preset map he ady have into ur car??
Cos when i was in CoSE, the fella said in the ECU ady have a few preset maps in the ECU.. Will get a pic of the different setting when i go there next week.

Roger bout the underground part.. Jailbreaking.. LOL.. I guess u are using an iphone?? If u use android u will use rooting instead.. XD

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post Dec 11 2010, 11:57 AM

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QUOTE(jasondotcom @ Dec 11 2010, 11:55 AM)
aduh.... im in Kuching leh....

btw.....
check this out........

» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «

Looks good or not? Got it from one forum which i forgot the link already.
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Looks like RX-8 leh... But a bit lala for me.. hehe... The bodykit not my style.. I prefer more simpler and clean lines like german cars bodykit makers use..

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post Dec 11 2010, 12:46 PM

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QUOTE(ahpaul82 @ Dec 11 2010, 12:39 PM)
LoL, said don't want go but end up went for Dyno test also tongue.gif
why want go second time ?  laugh.gif
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i really have no idea why so low,
it almost 3x% transmission lost leh...  rclxub.gif

I remember last time my fren who drive Satria Neo (Standard Campro, Manual Transmission),
went Dyno with bunch of Honda City Gang,
his Neo Dyno figure out-perform all the Honda City...
as i know that time he only changed Extractor and Muffler,
but he still able to get 104WHP or 105WHP..

i cannot accept Persona only show 7xWHP... sad.gif

any other Persona User willing to share Dyno chart?
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Ur car is totally stock too ah? I suggest save the money for some mods first loh.. Pay RM60 for these kind of results.. unsure.gif Not worth it..

2nd time dyno after remap ECU, change exhaust, drop-in, VS, lightened crank pulley. See how much can gain.. Next year end only will use ultra light weight racing rims.. thumbup.gif

Hopefully Proton will introduce dual clutch gearbox.. They should have partner with Volkswagen..

Or probably by next year end i can upgrade to JDM full spec Type-R.
This one my neighbours car. HKS Garage-R tuned piece of beast.. Pushes almost 360whp with Rotrex Supercharger..
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Compared to my first wife.. First time being put on treadmill.. Shd have brought her for more runs on the road.. So at least she will be more fitter..
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post Dec 11 2010, 03:20 PM

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QUOTE(ahpaul82 @ Dec 11 2010, 01:14 PM)
Did some parts changed on my car,
Never been to Dyno before,
therefore gatal to know how many WHP CPS Engine able to do.
but 2x-3x% transmission lost it too much,
I thought Manual transmission should get 15% lost and Auto transmission 20% lost only.  sad.gif
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Urs CPS Engine?? Gen2 isit?

QUOTE(xandras @ Dec 11 2010, 01:55 PM)
262? Siao...Eh if that dude remap our ECU, would that unwanted buzzing sound come back?  hmm.gif
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262 only.. haha.. Have to train myself from now to handle fast car.. So when i get my GT-R that time.. flex.gif

Erm i dunno.. I hvnt even heard the buzzing sound b4 also, cos my car from factory itself comes with the new firmware..
But shd be no lah.. If it will come back then i just go back to CoSE there find the mechanic i know to change my mapping..

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post Dec 11 2010, 03:33 PM

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QUOTE(ahpaul82 @ Dec 11 2010, 03:28 PM)
Yes, mine is Gen2 CPS Manual.

Reason 'busybody' in this topic is because Gen2/Persona is Abang-Adik mah tongue.gif
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haha.. Boleh boleh.. Yeah im also interested to see what kind of power ur CPS has..

btw anybody know where to get the chrome stripe the bottom of the boot there.. Looks nice or not?
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post Dec 11 2010, 07:52 PM

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QUOTE(yukogura89 @ Dec 11 2010, 04:58 PM)
oh..too sad to hear the dyno result..i myself oso auto PE..thk would go dyno mayb after everystuff i can modify (5 yrs later after warranty lol). BTW, im goin to change trd v3 spoiler =) jz sad to hear that it will leave 3 holes on the boot after taking off the ori spoiler (m line / h line).. will try to figure hw to fix the hole n tell u guys the worst is to weld n repaint lol bt wat to do, damn sayang car ma =P

adding sum here, chging exhaust wil definitely bring the HP up..by oni chg stock header to 4 head extractor i thk the HP can improve quite bit lo..bt when u gain hp, hv to sacrifice some torque la..jz my 0.2cents~

for ecu hacking, yea u can hv more top speed, bt u r risking ur life at the same time oso, ecu controls our car system, if not well set up, anything goes wrong the car may not be in ur control at the middle of road..so k ful la~
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Want to sell me ur ori spoiler 2nd hand? tongue.gif
Erm changing mapping for car ECU only mah.. A/F ratio mapping wont really affect other safety performance mah..

QUOTE(ahpaul82 @ Dec 11 2010, 06:15 PM)
This one :

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some of light mod CPS owners able to achieve 11xWHP.
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Haiz.. I really beh song ady. CPS can get 109.9whp vs 74.9whp.. 35whp difference.. shocking.gif

QUOTE(darkorama @ Dec 11 2010, 07:26 PM)
Interesting topic on dyno test.

Ive also read somewhere before that the on wheel power for normal campro is around 75hp, quite disappointing & judging from driving, its about right.

I believe the only way to truely increase the power is through BOT. Ive been an ardent reader of Camproturbo.com and amazed that they manage to pull off 150-200 whp. Although the cost might prob around 10k, the result is worth it.

If im in peninsular, i would surely do it..haiz
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Bro.. Yeah i read the Xenon Camproturbo project also.. Was very interested in the project till i saw their dyno chart at GT Auto.. Not impressive lah.. U do get lots of whp.. But before 5500rpm the torque and hp is pathetic.. Not practical for everyday use unless u are planning to rev upwards of 5k rpm everytime..
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post Dec 11 2010, 11:06 PM

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QUOTE(jackyap84 @ Dec 11 2010, 08:00 PM)
Xenon project claimed that power come around 2.5k rpm for IAFM.
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Yeah they claim that power starts boosting from 2.5k.. But that only is a few hp extra from normal. The real power comes after 5500.. I will try to take a pic of the dyno chart for reference lah..

QUOTE(xandras @ Dec 11 2010, 09:49 PM)
Thats what I still don't understand. 125 HP for CPS & 110 for IAFM, yet the difference is 110 WHP for CPS & 75 for IAFM. Why so much difference?
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Haiz.. Sad case lah... Nowadays i drive the car although it feels powerful but the 75whp cant be erased from my memory.. cry.gif

QUOTE(personatm @ Dec 11 2010, 09:55 PM)
can anybody explain to me.my car is persona SE

really confuse about aircond button.
is it true

max=more hot
min=more cold
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min means minimum temperature (colder)
Max means maximum temperature (hottest)
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post Dec 12 2010, 12:06 AM

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QUOTE(xandras @ Dec 12 2010, 12:04 AM)
Interesting, the other day I asked a mechanic at a tyre shop. Said that there's no need to change master brake pump. Total cost was a bomb tho.
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How much ah? Detail of the cost.
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post Dec 12 2010, 12:49 AM

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QUOTE(xandras @ Dec 12 2010, 12:30 AM)
2nd hand rear disc brakes from totaled Persona/Gen2 which I wouldn't take, costs abt RM1.1k including installation.

New ORIGINAL Proton Persona/Gen2 rear disc brakes with OEM discs, pads, brake cable, brake hose = RM 3170.
It killed me. Literally. mega_shok.gif

Here's the breakdown of the price of the parts:

Handbrake cable : RM110 x 2 = RM220
Brake Caliper: RM800 x 2 = RM 1600
Brake Pad : RM 480 (Bosch) = RM 480
Brake Disc Rotor : RM 650 - RM 650
Brake Hose : RM 110 x 2 = RM 220

Total = RM 3170

I was thinking of  getting brake discs & pads from somewhere else, might be able to shave off almost RM 500 there.  hmm.gif
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U must not be joking..Rm3170.. icon_question.gif Can have heart attack wei.. For that price can get full set of Brembo MAX ventilated and slotted high-carbon brake disc with calipers and brake pads wei.. Gila punya Proton..

The quotation i estimated from parts sourced over lyn and zth.

Handbrake Cable : RM90 x 2 = Rm180
Brake Pads : RM100 Bendix Titanium Metal King for both back wheel = RM100
Brake Disc : Brembo Standard RM370x2 = RM780
Brake Hose : RS PRO Braided brake hose RM180x2 = RM360
Calipers : No idea of any particular brand, use back OEM = RM1600

Total = RM3020 excluding labour.. So RM3500 can get full new set..

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post Dec 12 2010, 10:58 PM

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QUOTE(necromencer @ Dec 12 2010, 03:06 AM)
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done this early this year.

rear brake set rm 650
rear brake cable rm120
installation rm 150

total cost rm870.
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Potong from which car originally??
RM870 is very reasonable.. Can consider..

QUOTE(yukogura89 @ Dec 12 2010, 03:35 AM)
haha offer me a price! bt my one is bronze garnet o..anyhow will post on forum to sell oso..hv to survey market price n decide 2nd hand price bt overall jz like new..bodoh proton duck tail oso nid drill hole nid me solve the prob by pukul magat and repaint sad.gif
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WHAT?! Install that ducktail also need to drill hole?? They want to prevent theft ah?
Brand new one RM150 only..

QUOTE(chteh0721 @ Dec 12 2010, 12:47 PM)
ur persona have the same taste like mine haha
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Same mommy mah..
Probably the same batch also.. haha..

QUOTE(jhbey @ Dec 12 2010, 03:52 PM)
meaning misleading and con us Malaysian again with untruth data.
another reapackaging marketing strategy.
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Well misleading maybe, but not totally true.. Cos if want to install turbocharger definitely u are looking for huge gain.. But most of the gain comes very late.. Therefore FC will be severely affected due to when in town driving the rev wont be that high but due to low comp pistons the torque is going to be near useless..

QUOTE(xandras @ Dec 12 2010, 04:37 PM)
No  brows.gif
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thumbup.gif Cheers! thumbup.gif
Looks like ok urs is VLT 50% all round.. Chance for me to brag my ride.. haha..
Taken at KLIMS.. VIP Parking in front of UMNO building.. No need to pay parking fees.. hehe..
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Why so dark and black u may ask... So its easier for me to do this without anyone knowing lah.. flex.gif


QUOTE(jackyap84 @ Dec 12 2010, 07:07 PM)
Zeng, where is our TT arrangement? tongue.gif
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QUOTE(saddient @ Dec 12 2010, 07:40 PM)
count me in lol
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QUOTE(jackyap84 @ Dec 12 2010, 08:50 PM)
wat bro Zeng arrange lor. he said will make it happen wor.
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QUOTE(xandras @ Dec 12 2010, 09:39 PM)
haha... We all wait he finish exam then chiong him.. XD  brows.gif
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QUOTE(jhbey @ Dec 12 2010, 10:09 PM)
me too
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Erm please come out with a suitable date..

Dates i have in mind.
18 Dec
19 Dec
25 Dec - Christmas Day.. I suppose most of u all will be busy..
26 Dec - Boxing Day - Erm maybe everyone still hangover from clubbing..

So pls vote.. biggrin.gif

Im ok with days after 14dec.. Weekdays or weekends also will be free..

QUOTE(saw2001 @ Dec 12 2010, 10:11 PM)
tomorrow going for my 1st service.
anything to tell him to help me check?
when i turn got TA-TAk-Tak sound. any idea?
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Erm check the the 2nd post in the topic.. Common prob to check and solutions are all listed there..

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post Dec 12 2010, 11:22 PM

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QUOTE(slvn @ Dec 12 2010, 11:16 PM)
hi guys..im curious about campro iafm FC compared to campro cps..can anyone share? i know campro cps can get 16km/l(my friend's car)..wut about iafm?
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Dont worry.. Campro IAFM u can never get that good.. 16km/L is totally unachievable in real life.. Unless u were going at 80km/h on highway all the time..

Standard consumption u shd expect is 10-12km/L

QUOTE(xandras @ Dec 12 2010, 11:18 PM)
Coooolll... Eh, do u think it'll be nice if I put some 'carbon-fibre touch' to my car?  brows.gif
Like.. wrap the front grille with carbon fibre sticker.. door pillars.. Just suggestions.. Wakakaka..
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LOL.. Thought of that ady.. Will be buying some 3M Dinoc carbon sheet after my exams to stick around wherever i find it suitable.. haha..
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QUOTE(xandras @ Dec 12 2010, 11:49 PM)
Eh.. Who say cannot? My Persona IAFM get around 42km/L k... 2.4 L/100KMs...  brows.gif
Downhill from Genting, 3rd gear all the way..  biggrin.gif

I WANNA JOIN CARBON FEST!! LoL.. I'm not sure if it'll look good on my car.. Cos it's Bronze Garnet... Carbon sheet looks damn good on white cars, tho..  drool.gif
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Speaking of genting.. I hvnt bring my baby up there for test drive yet.. Hmm probably should go there this mth..

Exterior doesnt look good then stick on the interior loh..

LOL.. Shall we bulk order 3M Dinoc also?? tongue.gif
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QUOTE(unknownhammie @ Dec 13 2010, 12:53 AM)
No time to go do...Teach me how to train...haha
Wokay, when TT? Should be free, This week is my last week of notice.

Of coz fast, travel to work like nobody business....1 day go work and home...>80KM. Went to Penang once.
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18/19 DEC
25/26 DEC

Choose which date is ideal. Place yet to be confirmed.. Any suggestions of places with open car park??


Added on December 13, 2010, 1:02 amLOL unknownhammie, i didnt know LYN had a hamster thread.. XDD

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post Dec 13 2010, 01:19 PM

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QUOTE(kubundu @ Dec 13 2010, 02:01 AM)
I'll save you the trouble, here  biggrin.gif

small turbo
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big turbo
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Thanks.. Haha First post in LYN.. rclxms.gif
Do you have graphs of big and small turbo running at 0.5bar boost??

Because for stock engine, Its impossible to run 1bar boost, and normally they will reduce the boost to 0.5bar only to maintain engine and transmission durability..

QUOTE(muslayer @ Dec 13 2010, 09:12 AM)
I should be no problem. Waiting TT
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QUOTE(jackyap84 @ Dec 13 2010, 11:08 AM)
waiting for TT.
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26 Dec, 8pm ok for both of u?? Any place to suggest?

QUOTE(muslayer @ Dec 13 2010, 12:50 PM)
Curious to know how much to have Persona Dyno?

If cheap maybe can Dyno my Persona MT happy.gif
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Dyno 3runs run with A/F ratio will cost RM100.
Without A/F ratio can get for RM60-70.

Can go to any sunway shop to ask. There are around 5 dyno machines in sunway area the last time i went to look around.


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post Dec 13 2010, 01:27 PM

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QUOTE(DaBestOne @ Dec 13 2010, 01:26 PM)
Wahahaha the passengers siap go to the couple's side and take picture.. geng flex.gif
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The 2 passengers do it right in the middle of a public train.. Lagi geng!!! flex.gif
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QUOTE(kubundu @ Dec 13 2010, 06:30 PM)
Sorry, dyno charts are pretty personal to some people. This is all I can find. If you wish to know more just register as member at the forum. It's auto approved. Provided you can understand malay pasar language but there are some post in English. Good luck. icon_rolleyes.gif  Yup my 1st post in LYN, I don't have a Persona though.
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Yeah i have registered in camproturbo.com. But i dont recall seeing anybody posting their dyno charts over there.. Nvm i shall enquire at GT Auto.. Thanks for the charts btw. laugh.gif
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QUOTE(azizul9736 @ Dec 13 2010, 07:12 PM)
My engine oil leak, the mechanic show me the leak cause by a tiny crack on the oil sump,  cry.gif  charge me 750 including oil change  cry.gif u guys out there better take care of it especially those who ride 1st edition gen2 just some advice blush.gif
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Ouch u bumped the bottom of ur car somewhere? Any ideas on how the oil sump cracked?
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QUOTE(yukogura89 @ Dec 14 2010, 10:50 PM)
hey zenggtm, mayb i wil stay for 2 spoiler if can lol:P yaya..bodoh la gt drill one..
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Become lala car ady.. haha.. Got ducktail and TRD raised spoiler.. If can modify the TRD into adjustable wing one.. XD..

Need some help.. Which rims paling cun??

I got these rims.. RM1600 + Kumho 215/45R17.. Xtra Load series.. Treadwear 320 Traction AA Temp A + Trade in ori steel rims RM500 = Total package RM2350..
Worth or not?

This one is the lightest because its forged, the other 2 are cast.. ~7.4kg. + tire is around 11kg only. If only it came in gunmetal color..
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This one the shiniest.. XD thumbup.gif ~8kg
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This one matches my car color beautifully.. XD Shiny somemore.. thumbup.gif ~8kg
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Im trying to look for a wheel 10-spoke gun metal color one.. So far cant find any.. Btw Persona can fit up to 18" wheels.. Turn the tire also ngam ngam wont knock the inside panel.. Persona wheel well can take up to 7.5jj rims.. Im so tempted to fit in 18" rims.. It weights only 11kg for rims only. XD

If 18" not big enough.. There is always 40" to drool on..
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QUOTE(unknownhammie @ Dec 15 2010, 08:15 AM)
TT sudah decide mana?

lol
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26th Dec nighttime ok with everyone? Or want it to be done in the afternoon?


QUOTE(khtee @ Dec 15 2010, 08:56 AM)
how much would those 17inch tyre cost? RM2350 seem cheep considering the rims itself is rm1600
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Rims are =RM1600
Kumho 215/45R17.. Xtra Load series.. =RM1250
Treadwear 320 Traction AA Temp A +
Trade in ori steel rims =(RM500)
Total package RM2350

I forgot what tire model. But it looks good for wet and dry road lah.. Got V-thread and also deep thick middle block..
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QUOTE(chteh0721 @ Dec 15 2010, 09:02 AM)
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Holy crap.. How big was the hole lah?? The front rims looks almost completely shredded..
So now the new rims are the same or u have different type of sport rims now??

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