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post Nov 20 2010, 12:28 PM

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In a Nutshell,THE Blm is a "CHEAP " car if there is no Myvi around.Why? Cause with Myvi around it,it makes the Proton looks rubbish especially since you are paying aroung RM 35k ++ for a 100% Msian made car.Why not top up a lil ,get a Myvi at least it has some Jap DNA in it .And you wont regret if you get the SE version.

Much better ,more reliable,lower running costs in the long run,cheaper spare parts,100X better service centre compared to Proton SC,pickup and driving around the CITY is a breeze.

Think about it,and you would come to a conclusion that the BLM is not as CHEAP as you think it is.
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QUOTE(imperialrealcs @ Nov 20 2010, 12:24 PM)
u r basically comparing ur car with satria neo in term of performance and handling..
try comparing with city or vios whereby they are both same size, same shocks setup (front mcpherson, rear torsion beam) as well as a sedan
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i didn't really compare both neo and blm. I'm merely sharing my personal comments on BLM.
I can't compare city or vios as i don't drive them long enough and/or merely a passenger.

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myvi also 100% msian made car with no Jap DNA in it. Don't kid yourself kevin. even the japanese laugh at people like you.

exaggeration is complete proof why no one should take you seriously in this topic.

i drive both a myvi and a saga blm. do you? the only difference is myvi is good in the city and saga on the highways. handling overall, saga triumphs hands down. the ABS on the myvi almost doesn't exist and cornering is sloppy and unstable. the saga has the same vibration levels at 140kph as a myvi at 80kph. FACT.

on my experience from stories i'd also rather not be in a myvi when a crash happens.

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QUOTE(Zaypher @ Nov 20 2010, 12:03 PM)
My close friend is driving a saga BLM and I get to drive it every now and then.
I drove it more than 1000km and spend reasonable hours in it.

My comments are as follows-

Saga BLM is a good car for its price. It is very cheap and it is quite a bargain because you can get a fairly big car plus more than enough headroom. In other words, it's a budget car. Having said that, i never fail to have leg cramp on a long journey due to the position of the pedal. For some reasons, the brake pedal is set too high for me.

I have a sneo at home, surprisingly with my height, i feel more at home in my neo. I reckon the reason is that neo allows me to sit further to the back.

As for the performance, i am driving the 1.3 AT. The car is extremely sluggish and quite a torture to drive. The auto tranny appears to be sleeping all the time and only starts working after .5 - 1sec after you step on the gas pedal.

Handling wise, the car feels light and doesn't give me the confidence in high speed cornering, unlike the sneo.

Mileage quite bad but that is subjective because i had to accelerate quite often to keep up with the road traffic (especially on the faster lanes).

Bottomline is, Saga BLM is a good point A to B car for the price.
But if you start comparing, to me, Saga BLM does not have any advantage over either toyota or honda (again, apart from the price).

If you don't like slow car, try to stay away.
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U r definitely correct on this one, it's a torture to drive, at first it seems ok for the underpowered part because of town driving, but when go for long distances or go up a hill, u'll regret driving it. and the build quality is one of the worst, the car got squeaking sounds everywhere, just after 3 months! I've got the 1.3 auto full spec which cost RM37k, it's darn expensive if u ask me. and the response time for the auto gearbox is just pathetic, full throttle for almost 2 second then only got response. and don't let me mention the brakes.......again.........and the stupidly high FC, full tank (to the max) go up cameron highlands 1 and a half trips only the fuel tank kosong, can barely make it to the nearest petrol station in brinchang. RM60 can only go 240km, it's worst than my RB20det which can go a full 2 trips for RM60 if i drive smoothly (in the BLM no one can drive smoothly because it's so underpowered)

bottom line is, use it ONLY for town driving and if u don't like to drive fast, or else don't even think about it.

QUOTE(kevin23 @ Nov 20 2010, 12:28 PM)
In a Nutshell,THE Blm is a "CHEAP " car if there is no Myvi around.Why? Cause with Myvi around it,it makes the Proton looks rubbish especially since you are paying aroung RM 35k ++ for a 100% Msian made car.Why not top up a lil ,get a Myvi at least it has some Jap DNA in it .And you wont regret if you get the SE version.

Much better ,more reliable,lower running costs in the long run,cheaper spare parts,100X better service centre compared to Proton SC,pickup and driving around the CITY is a breeze.

Think about it,and you would come to a conclusion that the BLM is not as CHEAP as you think it is.
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Myvi is totally overated, and it's not 'cheap' either for a car that has no boot. but i know this is malaysia, there's not much choices when u r looking at cars around this kind of price tag, except if u buy 2nd hand, which u can get 2 hands full of choices (great choices if i might add)

and u r saying MYVI has some jap DNA in it, i'll agree with u for a bit, but i'll need to correct u: MYVI has some VERY OUTDATED jap DNA in it...... sweat.gif

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QUOTE(stormlcc @ Nov 20 2010, 12:50 PM)
U r definitely correct on this one, it's a torture to drive, at first it seems ok for the underpowered part because of town driving, but when go for long distances or go up a hill, u'll regret driving it.  and the build quality is one of the worst, the car got squeaking sounds everywhere, just after 3 months!  I've got the 1.3 auto full spec which cost RM37k, it's darn expensive if u ask me.  and the response time for the auto gearbox is just pathetic, full throttle for almost 2 second then only got response.  and don't let me mention the brakes.......again.........and the stupidly high FC, full tank (to the max) go up cameron highlands 1 and a half trips only the fuel tank kosong, can barely make it to the nearest petrol station in brinchang.  RM60 can only go 240km, it's worst than my RB20det which can go a full 2 trips for RM60 if i drive smoothly (in the BLM no one can drive smoothly because it's so underpowered)

bottom line is, use it ONLY for town driving and if u don't like to drive fast, or else don't even think about it.
Myvi is totally overated, and it's not 'cheap' either for a car that has no boot.  but i know this is malaysia, there's not much choices when u r looking at cars around this kind of price tag, except if u buy 2nd hand, which u can get 2 hands full of choices (great choices if i might add)

and u r saying MYVI has some jap DNA in it, i'll agree with u for a bit, but i'll need to correct u: MYVI has some VERY OUTDATED jap DNA in it...... sweat.gif
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thanks, i'm speaking from personal experience. Actually, my friend's BLM is mainly city driving and even that is a toture to me. Sometimes, i feel thankful because i don't need to drive it too often. YOu nail it on the spot, no one can drive smoothly with the BLM. you just have to floor it to keep up, which means, you will be spending a lot of time reving it above 4k rpm to just keep up with the flow of traffic. But then, my friend is happy with it. I think you need to be someone like my friend to find it 'ok' with saga.

Speaking of myvi, i just don't understand that car. RM 50k + for a 1.3 with crappy handling.
I don't understand la.
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QUOTE(Zaypher @ Nov 20 2010, 01:08 PM)
thanks, i'm speaking from personal experience. Actually, my friend's BLM is mainly city driving and even that is a toture to me. Sometimes, i feel thankful because i don't need to drive it too often. YOu nail it on the spot, no one can drive smoothly with the BLM. you just have to floor it to keep up, which means, you will be spending a lot of time reving it above 4k rpm to just keep up with the flow of traffic. But then, my friend is happy with it. I think you need to be someone like my friend to find it 'ok' with saga.

Speaking of myvi, i just don't understand that car. RM 50k + for a 1.3 with crappy handling.
I don't understand la.
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You only cover half of the story, don forget there is manual variant for BLM. I don't rev my manual BLM more than 3k to keep up with the flow of traffic. Ppl expect too much on 1.3 engine with auto tranny, and they bought and complain BLM is sucks, but they forgot for 1.3 with considering heavy body, manual is the proper choice rather than auto. smile.gif

Speaking about Myvi as well, i rather go for B-line Persona for <RM50k for larger cabin and alot better handling. For TS u should considering Persona as well, even B-line is good enuf.

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post Nov 20 2010, 01:34 PM

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QUOTE(Zaypher @ Nov 20 2010, 01:08 PM)
thanks, i'm speaking from personal experience. Actually, my friend's BLM is mainly city driving and even that is a toture to me. Sometimes, i feel thankful because i don't need to drive it too often. YOu nail it on the spot, no one can drive smoothly with the BLM. you just have to floor it to keep up, which means, you will be spending a lot of time reving it above 4k rpm to just keep up with the flow of traffic. But then, my friend is happy with it. I think you need to be someone like my friend to find it 'ok' with saga.

Speaking of myvi, i just don't understand that car. RM 50k + for a 1.3 with crappy handling.
I don't understand la.
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hmmm, then mind to give some example of a 'good' cars below 50k? sometimes for a fresh grad like me when it comes to purchasing a car its really a headache as there is not much choice out there with low budget.

btw, for ppl commented that saga is a bad city car, does that apply to manual saga as well? i have sat few times in my fren manual saga. i feel it is quite fast and comfortable.
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QUOTE(flag @ Nov 20 2010, 12:49 PM)
myvi also 100% msian made car with no Jap DNA in it. Don't kid yourself kevin. even the japanese laugh at people like you.

exaggeration is complete proof why no one should take you seriously in this topic.

i drive both a myvi and a saga blm. do you? the only difference is myvi is good in the city and saga on the highways. handling overall, saga triumphs hands down. the ABS on the myvi almost doesn't exist and cornering is sloppy and unstable. the saga has the same vibration levels at 140kph as a myvi at 80kph. FACT.

on my experience from stories i'd also rather not be in a myvi when a crash happens.
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U are a joke, myvi vibrate at 80km/h? I drove a myvi se before i m driving this nhc. Smooth n stable up to 150km/h.. Dont bull me.. And it has jap dna in it. Go read up kiddo.

QUOTE(stormlcc @ Nov 20 2010, 12:50 PM)
U r definitely correct on this one, it's a torture to drive, at first it seems ok for the underpowered part because of town driving, but when go for long distances or go up a hill, u'll regret driving it.  and the build quality is one of the worst, the car got squeaking sounds everywhere, just after 3 months!  I've got the 1.3 auto full spec which cost RM37k, it's darn expensive if u ask me.  and the response time for the auto gearbox is just pathetic, full throttle for almost 2 second then only got response.  and don't let me mention the brakes.......again.........and the stupidly high FC, full tank (to the max) go up cameron highlands 1 and a half trips only the fuel tank kosong, can barely make it to the nearest petrol station in brinchang.  RM60 can only go 240km, it's worst than my RB20det which can go a full 2 trips for RM60 if i drive smoothly (in the BLM no one can drive smoothly because it's so underpowered)

bottom line is, use it ONLY for town driving and if u don't like to drive fast, or else don't even think about it.
Myvi is totally overated, and it's not 'cheap' either for a car that has no boot.  but i know this is malaysia, there's not much choices when u r looking at cars around this kind of price tag, except if u buy 2nd hand, which u can get 2 hands full of choices (great choices if i might add)

and u r saying MYVI has some jap DNA in it, i'll agree with u for a bit, but i'll need to correct u: MYVI has some VERY OUTDATED jap DNA in it...... sweat.gif
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QUOTE(stormlcc @ Nov 20 2010, 12:50 PM)
U r definitely correct on this one, it's a torture to drive, at first it seems ok for the underpowered part because of town driving, but when go for long distances or go up a hill, u'll regret driving it.  and the build quality is one of the worst, the car got squeaking sounds everywhere, just after 3 months!  I've got the 1.3 auto full spec which cost RM37k, it's darn expensive if u ask me.  and the response time for the auto gearbox is just pathetic, full throttle for almost 2 second then only got response.  and don't let me mention the brakes.......again.........and the stupidly high FC, full tank (to the max) go up cameron highlands 1 and a half trips only the fuel tank kosong, can barely make it to the nearest petrol station in brinchang.  RM60 can only go 240km, it's worst than my RB20det which can go a full 2 trips for RM60 if i drive smoothly (in the BLM no one can drive smoothly because it's so underpowered)

bottom line is, use it ONLY for town driving and if u don't like to drive fast, or else don't even think about it.
Myvi is totally overated, and it's not 'cheap' either for a car that has no boot.  but i know this is malaysia, there's not much choices when u r looking at cars around this kind of price tag, except if u buy 2nd hand, which u can get 2 hands full of choices (great choices if i might add)

and u r saying MYVI has some jap DNA in it, i'll agree with u for a bit, but i'll need to correct u: MYVI has some VERY OUTDATED jap DNA in it...... sweat.gif
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Yes outdatef jap tech is still 100x times better than Latest Msian tech! Sorry to burst ur bubble, thts a factf

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myvi start to vibrate at 130km/h this is a fact face by alot of driver.just go for a race with a blm,we will see whose the champ in cornering & highspeed

make this both car are stock
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QUOTE(kevin23 @ Nov 20 2010, 01:41 PM)
U are a joke, myvi vibrate at 80km/h? I drove a myvi se before i m driving this nhc. Smooth n stable up to 150km/h.. Dont bull me.. And it has jap dna in it. Go read up kiddo.

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Yes outdatef jap tech is still 100x times better than Latest Msian tech! Sorry to burst ur bubble, thts a factf
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dude BLM not as bad as u thought, the car simply deliver what u would expect for a RM35k car, nothing more nothing less. Few of my friends who driving saga BLM have got no complaint whatsoever as the car just drive fairly well. Yes underpower 1.3L BUT i seriously think that without saga's existence will u put ur money to a viva? given same amount of money? for even lower CC and fragile car structure?
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QUOTE(ahshuy @ Nov 20 2010, 02:37 PM)
dude BLM not as bad as u thought, the car simply deliver what u would expect for a RM35k car, nothing more nothing less. Few of my friends who driving saga BLM have got no complaint whatsoever as the car just drive fairly well. Yes underpower 1.3L BUT i seriously think that without saga's existence will u put ur money to a viva? given same amount of money? for even lower CC and fragile car structure?
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you are correct..at that price pls do not aspect too much, viva is over price for its size..

not satisfied with blm,u may try persona..another great car at its price rclxms.gif

not good enough,go for inspira not 100% jap DNA after some tweak by proton engineer,but it will surely tarpau any vios,city on road
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sit in my friend saga blm before and drive it, even in manual transmission its pick up also very slow and have to keep it above 3.5k rpm only you can feel the power. cabin insulation also quite good for his price and feel more solid than myvi. engine noise quite strong from outside. not very fuel efficient car compare to other car even car with larger cc better than it.
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When you have more load in the car. Don't expect a small engine to produce the same amount of acceleration as a no load car. If you ask me blm is much agile in terms of acceleration as compared with a waja w/ torque dip.
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QUOTE(kevin23 @ Nov 20 2010, 01:41 PM)
U are a joke, myvi vibrate at 80km/h? I drove a myvi se before i m driving this nhc. Smooth n stable up to 150km/h.. Dont bull me.. And it has jap dna in it. Go read up kiddo.
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You're the one bulling ppl bugger. enjoy your highway floatboat.
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QUOTE(Vervain @ Nov 20 2010, 04:07 PM)
When you have more load in the car. Don't expect a small engine to produce the same amount of acceleration as a no load car. If you ask me blm is much agile in terms of acceleration as compared with a waja w/ torque dip.
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u r comparing a an already rubbish car with a toxic waste that malaysia produced (at least some rubbish can be recycled), it isn't fair at all. plus, we are not talking about a super underpowered BLM with full load, just one or two person in the car, do u think that it'll effect the power and handling so much? if a BLM has a full load, with 4 passengers and a boot full of luggage, it won't even go up a slope.....well......i'm being exaggerating, it will go up a slop, if u use low gear, and ONLY low gear for auto.

ppl who wants to order a MYVI, should see this and wait:
http://paultan.org/2010/03/01/new-perodua-...-liter-version/

ppl who just got their new MYVI: rclxs0.gif oops.gif
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seriously, is blm underpowered? im driving all my daily car of various displacement be it 1.3L Campro and vvt-i, 1.5L VTEC, 1.6L MIVEC, 2.0L i-VTEC, 3.0L VQ, and i still think the 1.3L CamPro is not as underpowered as what u all mentioned?

Issit because u all mod 9 9 or do implant on the standard engine then comparing directly to the stock standard engine?
or im not as power-hunger as u all?
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Proton <<<< go figure
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QUOTE(Frostlord @ Nov 20 2010, 07:32 PM)
Proton <<<< go figure
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nope, sorry, i dont buy that..
for me, brand is second, value is priority..
having said that, despite owning proton, perodua, toyota, honda and nissan, when i wana buy car and proton give the best deal, i will still get proton. FACT

well, maybe u r telling me its the people mindset and perception.. and i truthfully agree with that laugh.gif
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proton, the car manufacturer who after 20 years (+-) in business they still cant stand on their own leg sweat.gif
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QUOTE(Frostlord @ Nov 20 2010, 07:59 PM)
proton, the car manufacturer who after 20 years (+-) in business they still cant stand on their own leg sweat.gif
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i thought they already created savvy, gen2/persona and exora on their own? why still cant stand?
and dont start about import tax thingy.. its getting dull

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