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post Nov 20 2010, 08:13 PM

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nope, im only talking about making profit and does not need to rely on gov money to survive in current market

oh btw, does some of the car here looks familiar to you?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitsubishi_Lancer

no, im not speaking about inspira


Added on November 20, 2010, 8:31 pm
QUOTE(imperialrealcs @ Nov 20 2010, 08:02 PM)
i thought they already created savvy, gen2/persona and exora on their own? why still cant stand?
and dont start about import tax thingy.. its getting dull
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oh and dun worry, i wont talk about it

we all know they cant survive without it. FACT

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post Nov 20 2010, 09:16 PM

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QUOTE(kevin23 @ Nov 20 2010, 12:28 PM)
In a Nutshell,THE Blm is a "CHEAP " car if there is no Myvi around.Why? Cause with Myvi around it,it makes the Proton looks rubbish especially since you are paying aroung RM 35k ++ for a 100% Msian made car.Why not top up a lil ,get a Myvi at least it has some Jap DNA in it .And you wont regret if you get the SE version.

Much better ,more reliable,lower running costs in the long run,cheaper spare parts,100X better service centre compared to Proton SC,pickup and driving around the CITY is a breeze.

Think about it,and you would come to a conclusion that the BLM is not as CHEAP as you think it is.
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lol doh.gif japanese DNA? then how about inspira? JDM DNA?? rclxub.gif
pure proud with H Japanese person and mark rubbish to others. no wonder i see ur H over their also will a junk one day biggrin.gif

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post Nov 20 2010, 10:05 PM

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@kevin

the way u think is wrong. y? let me give u an example

lets take Honda City Basic which is around 85k

i top up 5k, i get full spec Honda City. Sounds good? sure

then i top up a bit more, i can get Jazz. With Jazz price, if i top up around 10k more, i can get Civic... the list never ends

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post Nov 20 2010, 10:20 PM

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QUOTE(stormlcc @ Nov 20 2010, 06:10 PM)
u r comparing a an already rubbish car with a toxic waste that malaysia produced (at least some rubbish can be recycled), it isn't fair at all.  plus, we are not talking about a super underpowered BLM with full load, just one or two person in the car, do u think that it'll effect the power and handling so much?  if a BLM has a full load, with 4 passengers and a boot full of luggage, it won't even go up a slope.....well......i'm being exaggerating, it will go up a slop, if u use low gear, and ONLY low gear for auto.

ppl who wants to order a MYVI, should see this and wait:
http://paultan.org/2010/03/01/new-perodua-...-liter-version/

ppl who just got their new MYVI:  rclxs0.gif  oops.gif
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It's not as bad as you think. Looky here. Your underpower feel might not be the same as me. For me the real underpower car I've experience is an old auto Unser. Climbing up a slope would barely accelerate while folks from behind would honk the daylight out of me.

I've rode up my friends blm went we decide to go genting for a little luck. 5 people in the car, the vehicle will still climb without the need to lock on lower gears. But climbing speed is not blazing fast. It's not that bad as it seems. It's only when you're cruising and suddenly you need a surge of power to quickly get you line up in a upfront jam.
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post Nov 20 2010, 10:59 PM

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BLM is a better choice compared to the MyVi (dont mention the VaVi please)

Stronger chassis, bigger compartment.

MyVi (or Perodua, for that matter) are overrated.

I drive a Merc, Hilux, and 2 Honda`s.Used to drive a powerful Wira Mivec. My aunt own a BLM, so I really know how to compare all 6 car. Its a topoftheline manual (not sure which model) somehow I really dont feel that its underpowered? The car can still easily keep up at highway speed with Civic FD, Merc E230, and City. We even go up to Cameron, Genting, Bukit Tinggi (Berjaya Hills) without having to stop to wait for others and without having to crawl up at 60kmj. Only the Wira M sometimes have to wait for others..

Unless you are talking about racing speed, which is kinda stupid I will say with a cheap car like that. But nevertheless, there is a lot of stupid VaVi driver speeding at the car limit on highway trying to keep up with bigger car biggrin.gif



If you really want speed and power, work harder save more money, buy a bigger engined car. Even the City iVtec is not "powerful" for me. Its still a normal car for daily usage.

For low budget driver, BLM definitely the best choice.
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post Nov 21 2010, 01:17 AM

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QUOTE(EyraYus @ Nov 20 2010, 10:59 PM)
BLM is a better choice compared to the MyVi (dont mention the VaVi please)

Stronger chassis, bigger compartment.

MyVi (or Perodua, for that matter) are overrated.

I drive a Merc, Hilux, and 2 Honda`s.Used to drive a powerful Wira Mivec. My aunt own a BLM, so I really know how to compare all 6 car. Its a topoftheline manual (not sure which model) somehow I really dont feel that its underpowered? The car can still easily keep up at highway speed with Civic FD, Merc E230, and City. We even go up to Cameron, Genting, Bukit Tinggi (Berjaya Hills) without having to stop to wait for others and without having to crawl up at 60kmj. Only the Wira M sometimes have to wait for others..

Unless you are talking about racing speed, which is kinda stupid I will say with a cheap car like that. But nevertheless, there is a lot of stupid VaVi driver speeding at the car limit on highway trying to keep up with bigger car biggrin.gif
If you really want speed and power, work harder save more money, buy a bigger engined car. Even the City iVtec is not "powerful" for me. Its still a normal car for daily usage.

For low budget driver, BLM definitely the best choice.
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agreed. u can mod ur wira/waja/wiralution/wajalution all u want, but u still cant beat my porshe

IMHO, buying car is all about preferences. If u dun like the car, dun get it. its not a shirt where u can "dun wear it" if u dun like it. it costs thousands of dollars to buy a car and u will be using it for a long time.

So if u buy a car that u do not like (i dun care how good that car is), u r not going to be happy. And u will suffer trying to maintain that car


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post Nov 21 2010, 02:11 AM

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QUOTE(Zaypher @ Nov 20 2010, 12:03 PM)
My close friend is driving a saga BLM and I get to drive it every now and then.
I drove it more than 1000km and spend reasonable hours in it.

My comments are as follows-

Saga BLM is a good car for its price. It is very cheap and it is quite a bargain because you can get a fairly big car plus more than enough headroom. In other words, it's a budget car. Having said that, i never fail to have leg cramp on a long journey due to the position of the pedal. For some reasons, the brake pedal is set too high for me.

I have a sneo at home, surprisingly with my height, i feel more at home in my neo. I reckon the reason is that neo allows me to sit further to the back.

As for the performance, i am driving the 1.3 AT. The car is extremely sluggish and quite a torture to drive. The auto tranny appears to be sleeping all the time and only starts working after .5 - 1sec after you step on the gas pedal.

Handling wise, the car feels light and doesn't give me the confidence in high speed cornering, unlike the sneo.

Mileage quite bad but that is subjective because i had to accelerate quite often to keep up with the road traffic (especially on the faster lanes).

Bottomline is, Saga BLM is a good point A to B car for the price.
But if you start comparing, to me, Saga BLM does not have any advantage over either toyota or honda (again, apart from the price).

If you don't like slow car, try to stay away.
its damn true for the brake pedal part, why its so high?? doh.gif
all cars is purpose for point A to B, am i right? and saga serve me wall for that.
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post Nov 21 2010, 02:36 AM

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QUOTE(Frostlord @ Nov 20 2010, 08:13 PM)
nope, im only talking about making profit and does not need to rely on gov money to survive in current market

oh btw, does some of the car here looks familiar to you?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitsubishi_Lancer

no, im not speaking about inspira


Added on November 20, 2010, 8:31 pm

oh and dun worry, i wont talk about it

we all know they cant survive without it. FACT
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did gov still inject money to keep proton alive?
anyway, what if some familar like mirage asti, mirage cyborg, and old lancer mx same with wira and the geng? they are not the 1st to do so

QUOTE(EyraYus @ Nov 20 2010, 10:59 PM)
BLM is a better choice compared to the MyVi (dont mention the VaVi please)

Stronger chassis, bigger compartment.

MyVi (or Perodua, for that matter) are overrated.

I drive a Merc, Hilux, and 2 Honda`s.Used to drive a powerful Wira Mivec. My aunt own a BLM, so I really know how to compare all 6 car. Its a topoftheline manual (not sure which model) somehow I really dont feel that its underpowered? The car can still easily keep up at highway speed with Civic FD, Merc E230, and City. We even go up to Cameron, Genting, Bukit Tinggi (Berjaya Hills) without having to stop to wait for others and without having to crawl up at 60kmj. Only the Wira M sometimes have to wait for others..

Unless you are talking about racing speed, which is kinda stupid I will say with a cheap car like that. But nevertheless, there is a lot of stupid VaVi driver speeding at the car limit on highway trying to keep up with bigger car biggrin.gif
If you really want speed and power, work harder save more money, buy a bigger engined car. Even the City iVtec is not "powerful" for me. Its still a normal car for daily usage.

For low budget driver, BLM definitely the best choice.
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exactly and precisely of what i wanted to convey!
thats my point, i've drove alot of cars daily and underpowered does not come into my mind when driving the saga blm at all considering its only 1.3L and it does what i expect it to do..
im really baffled how people can comment until this car power sooo damn bad LOL laugh.gif
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post Nov 21 2010, 03:07 AM

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QUOTE(imperialrealcs @ Nov 21 2010, 02:36 AM)
did gov still inject money to keep proton alive?
anyway, what if some familar like mirage asti, mirage cyborg, and old lancer mx same with wira and the geng? they are not the 1st to do so
exactly and precisely of what i wanted to convey!
thats my point, i've drove alot of cars daily and underpowered does not come into my mind when driving the saga blm at all considering its only 1.3L and it does what i expect it to do..
im really baffled how people can comment until this car power sooo damn bad LOL laugh.gif
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:hmmm: too bad i dont have any "public releasable proof" for this

just bear in mind that everything in the paper is not 100% true, esp the Star
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post Nov 21 2010, 03:18 AM

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QUOTE(imperialrealcs @ Nov 20 2010, 12:00 PM)
thats invalid argument.. if like what u said, dont ever say xxx yyy zzz is bad etc coz u cant make a product better than them!
but hey, those reviewer cant make better cars and yet they still criticize! go flame them in magazines or even tv show! laugh.gif
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That's not what i mean. He shouldn't judge the car just because it is made by PROTON. It depends on the owner him/herself. If you give the owner a Mercedes or a BMW but doesn't maintain or service it, do you think the car will be still good after some time?

ps: i know what im saying now does not explain what i said earlier....because i was in chinese mode tongue.gif


QUOTE(imperialrealcs @ Nov 20 2010, 12:00 PM)
thats invalid argument.. if like what u said, dont ever say xxx yyy zzz is bad etc coz u cant make a product better than them!
but hey, those reviewer cant make better cars and yet they still criticize! go flame them in magazines or even tv show! laugh.gif
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Yes these people don't make cars but like you say, they review cars. They are professional and paid to find pros and cons of the car. I believe the amount of research and the amount of cars tested is more than anyone of us here. That's why not much people against Jeremy Clarkson when he criticize the car because he have already done his research and tested the car himself. MOST IMPORTANTLY HE DID NOT MENTION ANY CAR THAT WILL ONLY LAST FOR 6 MONTH! For kevin situation, i'm sure he doesn't own the car himself nor tested the car(maybe) and he is telling me the car is good for 6 month only. If it's true i'm sure the PROTON Saga BLM will extinct because after using it for 6 month, it will be going in to the potong shop.

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QUOTE(SatriaCPS5368 @ Nov 21 2010, 03:18 AM)
If it's true i'm sure there is PROTON Saga BLM will extinct because after using it for 6 month it will be going in to the potong shop.
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Yet there is still hell lot of BLM out there going strong since the launching. Even my aunt BLM are not taken care of properly (old folks..they only know how to drive..what is engine oil?) are still going strong.

Haters gonna hate, really.
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My colleague thrash his BLM since the day he got the car. No brain ah beng who thought installing sky high spoiler will make the car go faster.. hahaha...

His ah beng mindset makes me scare to have a ride with he driving his car. lol.. And after 1 year ++ his mighty whitey BLM still going strong. But once having problem with IAFM. That's the only problem I've ever heard of from him.
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QUOTE(Frostlord @ Nov 20 2010, 07:59 PM)
proton, the car manufacturer who after 20 years (+-) in business they still cant stand on their own leg sweat.gif
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H is 51yrs, T is more than that..so u want a 25yrs car manufacturer to reach those standard? can you do that if you are given a chance? question back yourself,can you in 25yrs have a same standard with H & T?
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Saga BLM is a good car.
It won't breakdown like some ppl say.
As long as u bring it for constant servicing with the good mechanic the car is fine.
All those breakdown bullsh.t is because those noob driver nvr maintain their car.

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QUOTE(Frostlord @ Nov 20 2010, 10:05 PM)
@kevin

the way u think is wrong. y? let me give u an example

lets take Honda City Basic which is around 85k

i top up 5k, i get full spec Honda City. Sounds good? sure

then i top up a bit more, i can get Jazz. With Jazz price, if i top up around 10k more, i can get Civic... the list never ends
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ZOMG,this is one of the most ridicolous statement i hv ever heard.

Of course you need to set your budget.How much you are willing to pay for a car,what is the MAXIMUM price you are willing to pay for a car.

This is basic lah,dude.If your theory is true,then why dont I get a Ferrari then .My goodness.Pls think before you write.

WhaT i meant is ,why dont you top up extra get a Good Jap DNA car that last long than pay RM 30+k for a piece of junk that you know you will change in a few years time?

Sometimes,going for the cheapest car doesnt pay off.

BLM is seriously rubbish.Sat in it before,maybe the only good thing is that its body is solid.Thats all thats good about it.

Thats why Myvi is still selling by the bucketloads even though its more expensive than BLM.

Ppl know how to see the value in it.Perodua copy Passo which is Jap and it sold by the bucketloads.

Now Proton copy Mitsu cuz they see P2 so successful.

After 25 freaking years,with full gment support ,this is the rubbish that its giving back to the nation.Pathetic.

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QUOTE(kevin23 @ Nov 21 2010, 10:32 PM)
ZOMG,this is one of the most ridicolous statement i hv ever heard.

Of course you need to set your budget.How much you are willing to pay for a car,what is the MAXIMUM price you are willing to pay for a car.

This is basic lah,dude.If your theory is true,then why dont I get a Ferrari then .My goodness.Pls think before you write.

WhaT i meant is ,why dont you top up extra get a Good Jap DNA car that last long than pay RM 30+k for a piece of junk that you know you will change in a few years time?

Sometimes,going for the cheapest car doesnt pay off.

BLM is seriously rubbish.Sat in it before,maybe the only good thing is that its body is solid.Thats all thats good about it.

Thats why Myvi is still selling by the bucketloads even though its more expensive than BLM.

Ppl know how to see the value in it.Perodua copy Passo which is Jap and it sold by the bucketloads.

Now Proton copy Mitsu cuz they see P2 so successful.

After 25 freaking years,with full gment support ,this is the rubbish that its giving back to the nation.Pathetic.
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lets say BLM doesnt even exist in this world, what choices do u have? for 30k++?
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dn nd explain further la.

kevin23 shld jz migrate to japan.i bet he'll cum thr
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QUOTE(heavenly91 @ Nov 21 2010, 09:02 PM)
Saga BLM is a good car.
It won't breakdown like some ppl say.
As long as u bring it for constant servicing with the good mechanic the car is fine.
All those breakdown bullsh.t is because those noob driver nvr maintain their car.
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Some cars no matter how good you maintain them ,they still have problems.

My sis using BLM.She is doing sales so she travel alot around Msia.Service as per Proton manual.

1st day get the car,central alarm rosak.Cannot lock door.

Within the 1st month,radiator leak.

So now your gonna say ,my sis unlucky right? Rubbish car is rubbish car.

She had enough, sold it off at a dirt cheap price.Lost quite a sum.Bought a Myvi and is happily driving it around without a single PROBLEM!

Clocked 35700 kms already.Not a single problem.


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QUOTE(ahshuy @ Nov 21 2010, 10:36 PM)
lets say BLM doesnt even exist in this world, what choices do u have? for 30k++?
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LOL,I wanna ask you .Are you paying cash RM 30k for your car no right? You take bank loan right unless you are some rich a$$ buy car pay cash.

So whats the problem buy a Myvi at RM 40k + .Just take bank loan .The installment is not a huge difference.And it makes more sense!

QUOTE(ZeneticX @ Nov 21 2010, 10:37 PM)
dn nd explain further la.

kevin23 shld jz migrate to japan.i bet he'll cum thr
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Who cares what you think.Your comment hardly hurts me.


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QUOTE(coolkwc @ Nov 19 2010, 11:11 PM)
Some ppl is truly unfortunate one, breakdown after breakdown after 6 months, maybe the world's unlucky BLM user. wink.gif
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you got me..mine broke down on the 1st few mins on the road...and for 6 more times before they managed to fix the problem...now already 2 and half years....ok lar..just a bit underpower ..and some "squekkyyyy" sound here and there.... cheapest sedan mar..
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QUOTE(raywong81 @ Nov 21 2010, 10:41 PM)
you got me..mine broke down on the 1st few mins on the road...and for 6 more times before they managed to fix the problem...now already 2 and half years....ok lar..just a bit underpower ..and some "squekkyyyy" sound here and there.... cheapest sedan mar..
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Yea my sis radiator leak within the 1st month.Such a stupid car.

But glad ur BLM no more additional problems now.

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