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imperialrealcs
post Nov 20 2010, 12:00 PM

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QUOTE(SatriaCPS5368 @ Nov 20 2010, 03:23 AM)
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Please please! If you think BLM is not a good car? Why not u make your own car? Please wait until you can make your own car only bash other car maker company pls!
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thats invalid argument.. if like what u said, dont ever say xxx yyy zzz is bad etc coz u cant make a product better than them!
but hey, those reviewer cant make better cars and yet they still criticize! go flame them in magazines or even tv show! laugh.gif

QUOTE(abubin @ Nov 20 2010, 04:01 AM)
What you pay is what you get.

The car itself is not that bad. Engine is using old technology. Basic components are there to drive you around. FC is only mediocre. Very bad FC for city driving but good for highway driving.

What entails good car? For some people, like me, that also includes the branding and after sales service. Anyone who owned a proton before will know what I am saying. Proton's servicing is one of the worst in the industry.

However, like I already said, you pay for P you get P. You pay for H you get H. So it depends on your affordability and priority.
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wow define VERY BAD.. how many KM/L only consider good for u? what about bad? what about very bad? lmao
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post Nov 20 2010, 12:24 PM

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QUOTE(Zaypher @ Nov 20 2010, 12:03 PM)
My close friend is driving a saga BLM and I get to drive it every now and then.
I drove it more than 1000km and spend reasonable hours in it.

My comments are as follows-

Saga BLM is a good car for its price. It is very cheap and it is quite a bargain because you can get a fairly big car plus more than enough headroom. In other words, it's a budget car. Having said that, i never fail to have leg cramp on a long journey due to the position of the pedal. For some reasons, the brake pedal is set too high for me.

I have a sneo at home, surprisingly with my height, i feel more at home in my neo. I reckon the reason is that neo allows me to sit further to the back.

As for the performance, i am driving the 1.3 AT. The car is extremely sluggish and quite a torture to drive. The auto tranny appears to be sleeping all the time and only starts working after .5 - 1sec after you step on the gas pedal.

Handling wise, the car feels light and doesn't give me the confidence in high speed cornering, unlike the sneo.

Mileage quite bad but that is subjective because i had to accelerate quite often to keep up with the road traffic (especially on the faster lanes).

Bottomline is, Saga BLM is a good point A to B car for the price.
But if you start comparing, to me, Saga BLM does not have any advantage over either toyota or honda (again, apart from the price).

If you don't like slow car, try to stay away.
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u r basically comparing ur car with satria neo in term of performance and handling..
try comparing with city or vios whereby they are both same size, same shocks setup (front mcpherson, rear torsion beam) as well as a sedan
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post Nov 20 2010, 07:27 PM

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seriously, is blm underpowered? im driving all my daily car of various displacement be it 1.3L Campro and vvt-i, 1.5L VTEC, 1.6L MIVEC, 2.0L i-VTEC, 3.0L VQ, and i still think the 1.3L CamPro is not as underpowered as what u all mentioned?

Issit because u all mod 9 9 or do implant on the standard engine then comparing directly to the stock standard engine?
or im not as power-hunger as u all?
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post Nov 20 2010, 07:42 PM

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QUOTE(Frostlord @ Nov 20 2010, 07:32 PM)
Proton <<<< go figure
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nope, sorry, i dont buy that..
for me, brand is second, value is priority..
having said that, despite owning proton, perodua, toyota, honda and nissan, when i wana buy car and proton give the best deal, i will still get proton. FACT

well, maybe u r telling me its the people mindset and perception.. and i truthfully agree with that laugh.gif
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post Nov 20 2010, 08:02 PM

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QUOTE(Frostlord @ Nov 20 2010, 07:59 PM)
proton, the car manufacturer who after 20 years (+-) in business they still cant stand on their own leg sweat.gif
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i thought they already created savvy, gen2/persona and exora on their own? why still cant stand?
and dont start about import tax thingy.. its getting dull
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post Nov 21 2010, 02:36 AM

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QUOTE(Frostlord @ Nov 20 2010, 08:13 PM)
nope, im only talking about making profit and does not need to rely on gov money to survive in current market

oh btw, does some of the car here looks familiar to you?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitsubishi_Lancer

no, im not speaking about inspira


Added on November 20, 2010, 8:31 pm

oh and dun worry, i wont talk about it

we all know they cant survive without it. FACT
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did gov still inject money to keep proton alive?
anyway, what if some familar like mirage asti, mirage cyborg, and old lancer mx same with wira and the geng? they are not the 1st to do so

QUOTE(EyraYus @ Nov 20 2010, 10:59 PM)
BLM is a better choice compared to the MyVi (dont mention the VaVi please)

Stronger chassis, bigger compartment.

MyVi (or Perodua, for that matter) are overrated.

I drive a Merc, Hilux, and 2 Honda`s.Used to drive a powerful Wira Mivec. My aunt own a BLM, so I really know how to compare all 6 car. Its a topoftheline manual (not sure which model) somehow I really dont feel that its underpowered? The car can still easily keep up at highway speed with Civic FD, Merc E230, and City. We even go up to Cameron, Genting, Bukit Tinggi (Berjaya Hills) without having to stop to wait for others and without having to crawl up at 60kmj. Only the Wira M sometimes have to wait for others..

Unless you are talking about racing speed, which is kinda stupid I will say with a cheap car like that. But nevertheless, there is a lot of stupid VaVi driver speeding at the car limit on highway trying to keep up with bigger car biggrin.gif
If you really want speed and power, work harder save more money, buy a bigger engined car. Even the City iVtec is not "powerful" for me. Its still a normal car for daily usage.

For low budget driver, BLM definitely the best choice.
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exactly and precisely of what i wanted to convey!
thats my point, i've drove alot of cars daily and underpowered does not come into my mind when driving the saga blm at all considering its only 1.3L and it does what i expect it to do..
im really baffled how people can comment until this car power sooo damn bad LOL laugh.gif
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post Nov 23 2010, 08:51 AM

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QUOTE(Ryurox2020 @ Nov 22 2010, 03:51 AM)
Haih.. If proton never existed the goverment wont imply tax on foreign car and all this bullshit will stop happening.. we'll be happily using foreign cars now.. i think after i die Proton still will always be the underdog in the CarWorld.. tsk tsk
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are u dreaming? which country wont imply import tax on foreign car? wake up dude

QUOTE(ajaibman @ Nov 23 2010, 02:30 AM)
Inheritage the same flaws as any normal DOHC configuration engine without Variable Timing Valve opening technology (VTEC, CVT, CVTi, VVT, CPS) .. only gain power @ high RPM.

The IAFM technology only helps a bit to eliminate the torque Dip as the 1st gen campro engine suffer but does not help on the FC,

In other words.. if you want to maximize the fuel consumed = power of SAGA, you must drive @ high RPM most of the time..

And better to choose manual, since you can play around with the RPM biggrin.gif
Note : IAFM tech its not a new thing in the market.. before my 1985 Ford BD Laser TX3 already using this technology mated with 1.6 N/A DOHC configuration engine
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even the vvt is not new.. but the latest tech implement them to works better, just like the IAFM technology.
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post Nov 24 2010, 12:59 AM

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good in someway but not good enough for campro 1.3..
even the honda R20A i-VTEC also implement dual runner intake manifold similar to iafm
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post Nov 25 2010, 08:59 AM

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QUOTE(Decent chap @ Nov 25 2010, 12:42 AM)
Saga BLM weakness:

- Very fuel consumptious in traffic jams only.
- Not good for fat people. If got 2 fat people in front, confirm the driver's hand will touch the front passenger's hand.
- If your family got 5 fat people (70kg), the car can barely move. Trust me.
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tell me which B-Segment car isnt like that?
heck, even vios and city also will doh.gif

QUOTE(Ryurox2020 @ Nov 25 2010, 06:06 AM)
LOL! do you know how effing high the imported tax on foreign car in malaysia compare to other contries?
you need to WAKE UP or should i say read? rofl
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like i care. Buy if u can afford, cant afford enjoy ur perodua/proton. case close
u cant do shit about that.. yes, not even an effin little shit u can do about that laugh.gif
face the fact and stop complaining like 5 years old notworthy.gif


Added on November 25, 2010, 9:01 am
QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Nov 25 2010, 08:54 AM)
But Since it's re badge by Proton, it automatically becomes no good.
looks ugly straight away and lost all appeal.
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oh really? numerous reviewer who claimed them self as "neutral" said inspira had better handling etc than lancer..
well, malaysian are seriously brand concious

This post has been edited by imperialrealcs: Nov 25 2010, 09:01 AM

 

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