even if the backlight already degraded [is it THAT obvious?] it's still very godd isn't it?

i'm using these settings
Brightness 60
Contrast 75
Preset Standard


Both are very good TN panel LCDs,iinm the PX2370 is the newer model

Don't change,it's just a 1.5" difference but you're going to pay around RM200 more

U2311H uses eIPS panel,it's a low end IPS panel,but it's still overall better than TN panel monitors in the same price range
U2410 uses a higher end H-IPS panel,overall it's better than the U2311H in terms of colour production,uniformity and viewing angles but loses out a bit on contrast ratio and response time.It's also factory calibrated for accurate colours.

don't generalize,Dell have cheap LCDs too,and Samsung have expensive LCDs too.
Look at the panel type,the 'expensive' ones might be using IPS/VA panels while the 'cheap' ones use TN.

no drivers are needed as it's just a simple usb port

budget and usage?

I recommend the Dell U2311H,RM599 for 3 years warranty,RM630 for 5 years warranty.
It has better colour reproduction,better viewing angles than lcds in the same price range

bigger is nicer of course,but paying rm750+- for a bx2350 is not worth it imo,there's nothing special about that lcd.you can get pretty much the same thing with a rm550+- lg e2350t or the better dell u2311h.

If you can add RM49 more i suggest the Dell U2311H,it uses an eIPS panel so compared to monitors within the same price range it has better and more accurate
colour production plus wider viewing angles.You can get it from the garage sales section or dell online.




The U2311H i mentioned earlier would produce better,more accurate colours and has a wider viewing angle.
It's a 23" but with the money saved you can get something like a SSD.

With a higher res you can see more things at the same time.IMO i find such monitors very useful when doing work especially when the desk is too small for more than one monitor.
One more thing,not everyone plays games on their PC,even then not all games are really heavy since they are multiplatform games which are available on consoles too.

This post has been edited by Racerx: Feb 25 2011, 03:48 AM

LED is just the backlight,in fact most monitors use white LEDs positioned on the edge of the display,so it's nothing to shout about really.
There's not benefit going for edge lit LED LCD versus CCFL backlit LCDs.

there are no real LED display being sold here right now,only LED backlit LCDs like the ST2320L and E2311H.
Real LED displays are ones like the OLED display Sony sells for 25k USD

it is already included in the RM599 price

VGA and DVI=no audio
HDMI=+audio
the ST2320L isn't really good based on reviews,it's contrast ratio and viewing angles are bad,you can always use a converter for your PS3 too

what's your budget actually?

nope,none that i know of.the last one afaik is the Dell Ultrasharp 2209wa but it's already discontinued and being sold no more.

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Added on March 2, 2011, 4:08 pmcheck for dead/stuck pixels [open a blank white page in your browser fullscreen,see if there's any black spots]


This post has been edited by Racerx: Mar 2 2011, 04:08 PM

1-There are no true LED monitors being sold here eyt,those so called 'LED' monitors are just LCD monitors with white LED as backlight.Other than reduced thickness and instant max brightness,these monitors are the same as CCFL backlit LCDs

2-I recommend getting a Dell U2311H instead at RM599,use a DVI to HDMI converter + component to 3.5mm converter if you want to connect your PS3 to the monitor.
The U2311H completely trounces all 2 LCDs you mentioned in terms of colour reproduction and viewing angles.
If you can see that the U2311H's 8ms response time as slow in real life,you should also see that the PS3 games' 30fps as slow too

If you're still adamant on getting a LCD with a HDMI slot,you can get the LG E2340V,it's better than the ones you mentioned before.

This post has been edited by Racerx: Mar 2 2011, 04:58 PM

Dead pixels are pixels that are,well dead.They won't turn on so they'll look black all the time
Stuck pixels are pixels that are stuck displaying one colour all the time.

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Added on March 2, 2011, 5:04 pmThere's also the Viewsonic VX2739WM for around RM1189+-.
Don't expect too much thought as these are still normal TN panel LCDs.
You can also get a full HD 32" TV for around RM1.4K,imo saving up for that would be better.

This post has been edited by Racerx: Mar 2 2011, 05:04 PM

1-I got mine from All IT Digital Mall PJ,though it was a Component (f) to Component (f) + Component (m) to 3.5mm (f)

2-Yes.

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Added on March 2, 2011, 5:28 pmWell,the same can be said to the 27" LCDs that you're looking at too since their resolution is still just 1920x1080.LCD TVs with a res of 1366x768 is definitely unbearable personally,but ones with a res of 1920x1080 would be ok.Still,for movies a TV that doesn't use a TN panel is more preferable imo.

This post has been edited by Racerx: Mar 2 2011, 05:28 PM

from my experience,no it doesn't

The 40 in the model name indicates that it's of the LG 40 series display,at least that's what i got off the net anyway.

Since you already bought it you might as well live with it,or you can sell it for a loss.
Most TVs don't use TN,they either use IPS or VA panels.I've seen a full HD LG IPS panel 32" TV going for less than RM1.4k in the garage sales section before.
The U2410 is factory calibrated,so it'll have more accurate colours out of the box compared to the U2311H.It should also have even better viewing angles and colour reproduction that the U2311H.Based on reviews i've read the U2410 loses out a bit in terms of contrast ratio though.

This post has been edited by Racerx: Mar 3 2011, 12:55 AM

Both have very wide viewing angles,it's just that on the U2311H the brightness [or should i say contrast?] is reduced slightly at extreme angles [160+ degrees]vertically and horizontally[it's more pronounced when viewed vertically].
However imo the main advantage of the U2410 over the U2311H is the factory calibration and 16:10 aspect ratio.

About the TVs,they use IPS or VA derivatives so that's why they have very good viewing angles.TVs are viewed usually by more than one person so this is very important imo.
The colours of the U2311H and U2410 won't 'pop' as much as TVs you see in shops though as they don't use a matte coating on the display and they also use LED backlighting with local dimming [better contrast].
afaik the E2350T is similar to the E2350V except that it doesn't have HDMI

This post has been edited by Racerx: Mar 3 2011, 01:20 AM

If you have the money,why not?More so if you make a living with it.

It wouldn't affect your gaming as it's not that slow actually,most people will not notice the supposed slowness IRL

Colour reproduction,viewing angles,colour accuracy,contrast ratio,all these are better on the u2311h than the st2420l.If you value all these things then you know which is the better choice
If you convert HDMI form your laptop to DVI,there wouldn't be any degradation.

Dell Ultrasharp U2311H,RM599/609 for 3 years warranty,RM630 for 5 years warranty.

It smokes other LCDs in the same price range in terms of colour reproduction,viewing angles and colour accuracy

you can get better for the price,something like the LG E2340V/E2360T [these two are still below the U2311H though]
It doesn't have HDMI,but it does support HDCP so if you use a converter you can still connect a HDMI Blu ray player/PS3 to it and play the media without any problems.

if you're talking about downloaded HD movies then it doesn't matter.If you're talking about HD movies on a Blu ray disc then you need to get a LCD that supports HDCP [the port doesn't matter,DVI/HDMI are both fine].The U2311H is one,it'll play DRM protected movies on a Blu Ray disc fine.