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 Micro Four Thirds (m43) User Thread V3, Panasonic G/GH/GFx & Olympus E-P/E-PLx

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Chiggah
post Mar 16 2011, 04:43 AM

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hey wheres the best and cheapest place to get a GF1 + 20mm and GF2 kit from around Petaling Jaya area ?

Digital Mall ? http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1226457
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post Mar 16 2011, 10:57 AM

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QUOTE(sniper on the roof @ Mar 16 2011, 02:09 AM)
I suggest you use what you have first and only buy what you need/want when the need/want arise.
Provided you can hold..ahahahah  laugh.gif
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I snap alot of portraits shot bro...so thought of getting the pancake lense
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post Mar 16 2011, 03:09 PM

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QUOTE(il0ve51 @ Mar 14 2011, 10:08 PM)
faster show us your new wife's performance.....
btw u bought twin lens? how much?
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New wife shocking.gif ...wahlao...I'm a FEMALE...as you can see from my profile there....haha... as a beginner for this kind of camera..i'm still learning..well, i'll post up some when I test shot....

Bought at RM2799 (twin lense) from Fotokem lorrr... tongue.gif ... (i know...mahal ... sweat.gif ...but you can buy from whiteteeth or iamsobloodysick ... rclxms.gif )

OK...here you go...

Snap with Pana GF2 14mm lense
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This is the 1st picture I took after getting my GF2 .... snap with 14mm lense
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post Mar 16 2011, 11:50 PM

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Hi i have a question,
1. Olympus E-PL 2 has internal focus motor and GF-2 doenst have it?
Then how does GF-2 focus??
2. Lenses between M43 all interchangeable?
How bout if i want to connect canon lens , lets say 50mm f1.8 onto E-PL2, will i get to control aperture and the lens will AUTOfocus??
Do i need a adapter to connect canon lens and if need how much is the adapter and is the adapter universal for telephoto, UWA, etc??
3. Can i count on M43 to be a substitute for a entry level DSLR?
How high can the iso go to on M43 untill the noise level becomes too significant?

I have experience in DSLR but its not mine. Now i am ready to get either 550D or a M43. I open my options to M43 because i feel it is less bulky. Thank you!!

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post Mar 17 2011, 12:40 AM

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QUOTE(kazeko @ Mar 16 2011, 11:50 PM)
Hi i have a question,
1. Olympus E-PL 2 has internal focus motor and GF-2 doenst have it?
Then how does GF-2 focus??
2. Lenses between M43 all interchangeable?
How bout if i want to connect canon lens , lets say 50mm f1.8 onto E-PL2, will i get to control aperture and the lens will AUTOfocus??
Do i need a adapter to connect canon lens and if need how much is  the adapter and is the adapter universal for telephoto, UWA, etc??
3. Can i count on M43 to be a substitute for a entry level DSLR?
How high can the iso go to on M43 untill the noise level becomes too significant?

I have experience in DSLR but its not mine. Now i am ready to get either 550D or a M43. I open my options to M43 because i feel it is less bulky. Thank you!!
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1. m43 camera's focus motor is in the lens. You mistaken it for image stabilization. Olympus stabilization system is on the camera while Panasonic's is in the lens.

2. Yes, m43 lens are all interchangeable.
For other system lens, the adaptors are usually not expensive as its just a piece of metal. Being a piece of metal without electronic connections, the lens will be manual focus only and you cannot control the aperture if the lens have no aperture ring. Read a page back on my post.

3. This is a relative question. You can use an iphone to be a substitute for a dslr. Some people take better picture on an iphone than others on a high end dslr.
Noise: Generally speaking, an entry dslr like the 550D has one stop advantage noise advantage. Everything else being equal.. shooting RAW... ISO1600 on 550D is roughly similiar to ISO800 on a m43.
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Now i have a much better understanding....
Quote: "its troublesome to preset the aperture in advance on a canon camera for example and then moving it to the m43 body."

But if for some reason i have a spare canon body to switch the 50mm f1.8 to it's widest, and mount it on the E-PL2, will the lens stay on the widest or will it move back to the pre-set number ( like f2.8)??
Then the only reason to buy the "pancake" lens is for the autofocus and maybe better IQ?
i like BOKEH alot smile.gif

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QUOTE(kazeko @ Mar 17 2011, 12:58 AM)
Now i have a much better understanding....
Quote:  "its troublesome to preset the aperture in advance on a canon camera for example and then moving it to the m43 body."

But if for some reason i have a spare canon body to switch the 50mm f1.8 to it's widest, and mount it on the E-PL2, will the lens stay on the widest or will it move back to the pre-set number ( like f2.8)??
Then the only reason to buy the "pancake" lens is for the autofocus and maybe better IQ?
i like BOKEH alot smile.gif
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On the Canon body, you have to press down the DoF preview button and then remove the lens while the camera's on. That will lock the aperture blades.

Then mount it on the E-PL2.

Previous post, I mentioned 1 stop advantage for the APS-C sensor... this includes dof as well. So the bokeh-ness of it on the E-PL2 will be more or less similiar to f2.5 on the 550D.


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post Mar 17 2011, 02:24 AM

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anybody tried the panasonic 14-140mm lens? its freaking expensive
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post Mar 17 2011, 12:19 PM

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I've tried to searching everywhere but i couldnt find any panny 20mm with 1.1k T____T cheapest in town was RM1280 ><"
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QUOTE(microbe @ Mar 17 2011, 12:19 PM)
I've tried to searching everywhere but i couldnt find any panny 20mm with 1.1k T____T cheapest in town was RM1280 ><"
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Just buy niah.. Not much diff wat. Taiwan got no stock.
Btw... KL still got GF1+20mm combo? Is so, how much?
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QUOTE(microbe @ Mar 17 2011, 12:19 PM)
I've tried to searching everywhere but i couldnt find any panny 20mm with 1.1k T____T cheapest in town was RM1280 ><"
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If you found any good deal, let me know.... brows.gif
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QUOTE(microbe @ Mar 17 2011, 04:19 PM)
I've tried to searching everywhere but i couldnt find any panny 20mm with 1.1k T____T cheapest in town was RM1280 ><"
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WHere in town for RM 1280?

Is this the GF1 and 20mm kit?
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post Mar 17 2011, 01:05 PM

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just 20mm itself ><"
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post Mar 17 2011, 01:15 PM

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May I know why everyone is craze for panny 20mm?
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post Mar 17 2011, 01:19 PM

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because It's small, fast, sharp and produce nice bokeh!!!
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QUOTE(JekeChoo @ Mar 17 2011, 01:19 PM)
because It's small, fast, sharp and produce nice bokeh!!!
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No crop factor right? Then need to position camera near the subject to capture portrait and end up with lens distortion issue... Correct me if I'm wrong. I'm really curious to know why
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QUOTE(JekeChoo @ Mar 17 2011, 01:19 PM)
because It's small, fast, sharp and produce nice bokeh!!!
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I try to convince myself for the 14mm....wait until i tak boleh tahan, then one day sure will get a 20mm ...hahahha .... biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(heinlein @ Mar 17 2011, 01:28 PM)
No crop factor right? Then need to position camera near the subject to capture portrait and end up with lens distortion issue... Correct me if I'm wrong. I'm really curious to know why
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The 20mm is so sought after because:

- thin and light
- sharp
- 40mm focal length which is right in between the traditionally accepted wide (35mm) and standard (50mm) making it very versatile.
- f1.7 which makes it the most affordable and useful lens for low light/indoors.
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QUOTE(sniper on the roof @ Mar 17 2011, 03:03 PM)
The 20mm is so sought after because:

- thin and light
- sharp
- 40mm focal length which is right in between the traditionally accepted wide (35mm) and standard (50mm) making it very versatile.
- f1.7 which makes it the most affordable and useful lens for low light/indoors.
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Icic thank you for the information so crop factor does applied on it. I thought the lens is made without crop factor since it specially manufactured for that camera.
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QUOTE(sniper on the roof @ Mar 17 2011, 03:03 PM)
The 20mm is so sought after because:

- thin and light
- sharp
- 40mm focal length which is right in between the traditionally accepted wide (35mm) and standard (50mm) making it very versatile.
- f1.7 which makes it the most affordable and useful lens for low light/indoors.
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Been doing research for the past few dsys, yes panny 20mm f1.7 is drooling but hey if cannot afford this lense and looking something similar to it can always try the GF2 pancake lense which is slightly cheaper

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