Wa so deep can explain in simpler English lol?

Ok.. Try again.
To set aperture in old manual lens, u turn the aperture ring on the lens itself but newer lens dont have this ring. Aperture is set on the camera.
There's no electronic connection between non-m43 lens and a m43 camera so cannot set the aperture and can only use the lens on its preset aperture.
Since this lens performs best at f2.8 or smaller, its troublesome to preset the aperture in advance on a canon camera for example and then moving it to the m43 body.
Better?

exactly, I was using my friend's EF lens. Might consider getting at FD to M43 adapter and start playing with old FD lens. They're selling so cheap at ebay now..

thank you master sniper! You the man!!! Now I can understand about it much clearly...

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Added on March 14, 2011, 10:35 amWhich FD lense are you referring too?

This post has been edited by contreasjun27: Mar 14 2011, 10:35 AM

yesterday went fotokem fair... i walk in to see GF2 but the seller keep on say not worth getting the gf2 he say g2 is better and is good for long run as compare.

from his booth, the package he compare is below

GF2
Body,
14mm or 14-42mm
Bag
8gb memory
cleaning kit
around 100cm tripod
@RM2400

G2
14-42mm
45-200mm
Bag
2x 8gb memory
cleaning kit
around 100cm tripod
@2499

he say g2 have around similar function as except 720p video, lightweight and other not so important function.

anyone can enlight me on which 1 more worth?
if possible state some of the pros and cons

btw i am newbie, this is my 1st camera

You sure G2 is better?

To put it this way.... sensor wise, both GF2 and G2 sports the same thing so image quality is similiar. You do get a build-in electronic viewfinder which is useful for bright days outdoor and shooting with long lens for stability.

So the G2 is also more ergonomic which means that it has to look like a bonzai dslr.

Then when you look outside m43, these "advantages" becomes its problem as an entry dslr like Canon 550D, Nikon D3100 or even the Sony A33 performs noticeably better for more or less the same price.

And those DSLR's are bigger but like ~200grams heavier niah. Either ways have to put in a bag... and 200grams in a bag is not noticeable.

So depend on how you see things.. my dua sen are:

If touchscreen is a "feature" --> I'll get a Iphone 4
If want pocket friendly --> I'll get a S95
If want m43 --> I'll get a E-PL2 or GF1+20mm
If want everything --> I'll get an entry DSLR.

thx for those precious suggestion/ comment.

my requirement is m43. please dont include dslr and compact camera into discussion, if i want to consider those i would have had open/post at other thread instead of m43 thread.

the touch screen is definitely a sign of advance tech, you cant just call people buy ip4 for the touch screen.... ip4 dont have the good camera build in, if not i would have buy ip4 for it.

would appreciate if the discussion is more on m43.
i once included epl2 into consideration...

maybe any pro can help me on pros and cons on epl2, gf2 and g2~

thx anyway

This post has been edited by il0ve51: Mar 14 2011, 02:12 PM

If I remember correctly, GF-2 has touchscreen feature, M43 is lighter compare to its bigger brother dslr; so does its lens. The lens are significantly smaller than DSLR's too. When you put everything together in a bag, it makes a difference.
GF2 and EPL2 are equally great but I personally prefer EPL2 because it's much more fun to capture photo with it. My preference shouldn't be a factor to you and I believe you should choose what you like and suit you most.

Anyone interested in the new m.zuiko 14-42mm MSC? I'm gonna buy the EPL2 kit soon but wanna pair with 20mm pancake. Any takers? PM me to nego.

Thanks.

I just got my GF2 from matta fair. And told you wat....if you want to carry a light-weight + image quality same as dslr, then GF2 is the best choice. I put my GF2 + 14mm + 14-42mm into the Lumix G bag .... even my grandma can carry it and walk 200m ......... .... Haven't really test out snapping like those seniors .... but the touch screen .... is not a problem at all (if you are a 1st timer to get a camera like this ...). Do remember to have a Screen Protector (Single layer ...not multi-layer) ...so that it can protect your screen. Sensitivity after applying the SP...not a problem at all ....

faster show us your new wife's performance.....
btw u bought twin lens? how much?

woot I love this quote hehe get E-PL2 better bro! Im super satisfy with my E-PL2..now thinking of buying the wide angle converter or Nikkor 50mm F1.8 prime lense hehe

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Added on March 15, 2011, 12:21 pmanybody know where to get screen protector for E-pl2 already? now outside selling all not full screen 1...

This post has been edited by contreasjun27: Mar 15 2011, 12:21 PM

using the nikon lens with mount converter?

i think you need to buy the nikkor adapter to m43

yeah..i know...just interested to know how it would turn out...
might be interested to get the lens too if it turns out good...

Main annoyance (or a benefit depending on who you are) is that legacy lens are made for 35mm format so combine that m43's 2X crop factor.. everything turns into a tele.

Like the Nikkor 50mm you mention... works like a

- 50mm standard on fullframe DSLR's
- 75mm "portrait" lens on other DSLR's/ NEX
- 100mm telephoto on m43.

A bit of a problem for normal usage imo. Best to hunt for "wider" lens.

Hmm I see what's ur suggestion beside panny 20mm F1.7 bro. This one is too expensive can't afford it at the moment

if we get 200mm nikon or canon lens = superrrrrr long lenses 400mm?

I suggest you use what you have first and only buy what you need/want when the need/want arise.

Provided you can hold..ahahahah